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The Catholic church has no problem with any compromises to their faith beliefs it seems.Catholics (like Jews) do not take every word or story in the Bible literally. A literal Bible was something Evangelicals began pushing back in the 1970s. Catholics ignored them. (Baptists may have already believed in taking the Bible literally.) By the way Catholics have no problem with people taking the Bible literally.The Catholic church sold the farm out from under their flock when it accepted Darwinian evolution.
How they were able to reconcile that with literal belief in their bible will always be a mystery.
What do you know of prayer? What is "communing" with God--or at least what do you think it is? Honest question as I have no idea.So do you or do you not commune with your god through prayer or does god just hit you with a spiritual experience out of the blue?
I don't even know what you are imagining. I have said nothing about talking to God and "experiencing" it.If you talk to your god and "experience" it
You tell me since you're the one who is telling me what my experiences are or aren't.What do you know of prayer? What is "communing" with God--or at least what do you think it is? Honest question as I have no idea.So do you or do you not commune with your god through prayer or does god just hit you with a spiritual experience out of the blue?
Experiencing god.I don't even know what you are imagining. I have said nothing about talking to God and "experiencing" it.If you talk to your god and "experience" it
I haven't said word one about your experiences. You have told me they begin and end in the mind/brain. You have told me about sensory deprivation, peyote, meditation, etc.You tell me since you're the one who is telling me what my experiences are or aren't.
NoDoes your god decide when you will have a god experience randomly or do you instigate whatever it is you call. a god experience by some thought or action?
So you do nothing to have your god experience? It just happens.NoDoes your god decide when you will have a god experience randomly or do you instigate whatever it is you call. a god experience by some thought or action?
I haven't said word one about your experiences. You have told me they begin and end in the mind/brain. You have told me about sensory deprivation, peyote, meditation, etc.You tell me since you're the one who is telling me what my experiences are or aren't.
You have told me that my experiences are all in my mind/brain--nothing beyond that.
Christians on this forum are safe as long as they don't start making claims outside of their minds/brains. So far few have and so their beliefs are harmless to others.I haven't said word one about your experiences. You have told me they begin and end in the mind/brain. You have told me about sensory deprivation, peyote, meditation, etc.
You have told me that my experiences are all in my mind/brain--nothing beyond that.
Is Christianity fading among those who have never taken everything in the Bible as literal? Is Judaism (also does not take everything literally) fading?Christianity is fading in the West and so it's likely non sustainable without the superstitious nonsense that is promoted by their bible(s).
Nothing in the Bible needs to be thrown out. People simply need to understand that not every word is literal. Some major Protestant teachings (i.e., young Earth, "Rapture") didn't sprout until over fifteen hundred years after the Bible was written. And then, they used the King James English, not the original languages to come up with these present-day conclusions.It's time christians circle the wagons and come up with a formula for what is the truth and what needs to be thrown out as to contradictory to modern science. Young people who are religion's future are going to want to know!
I've repeatedly told you my experience is not limited to the mind/brain. You insist that it is. We have come full circle and circling again would be redundant.I have asked you repeatedly how you know your god experience isn't the same thing as my spiritual experience and you only say they are different but you won't say how.
Thrown out or proclaimed to not be taken literally, either is satisfactory.Nothing in the Bible needs to be thrown out. People simply need to understand that not every word is literal. Some major Protestant teachings (i.e., young Earth, "Rapture") didn't sprout until over fifteen hundred years after the Bible was written. And then, they used the King James English, not the original languages to come up with these present-day conclusions.It's time christians circle the wagons and come up with a formula for what is the truth and what needs to be thrown out as to contradictory to modern science. Young people who are religion's future are going to want to know!
Keep in mind the majority of Christians do not proclaim a literal Bible. That is actually a vocal minority. On the other hand, I am not sure the majority understand the Bible accounts much better. We simply do not have the time for study and research. Most of us have the understanding of a twelve-year-old, or as St. Theresa of Avila put it about six hundred years ago, if we use an analogy of a seven story castle, with each story having an over abundance of room, even most of the faithful church goers only reach the porch or maybe the foyer. We don't realize how much is left to explore.Thrown out or proclaimed to not be taken literally, either is satisfactory.
That which is not satisfactory is christians attempting to promote biblical nonsense that can't possibly be the truth.
This allows atheists and agnostics to assume that nothing in the bible(s) is the truth, until something specific from the bibles is promoted.
such convincing proof you have therethats not what the bible says...God, Jesus, Holy Ghost, Arch Angel, Satan, The four Horsemen of the Apocalypse...there are quiet a few and I am fogetting somethere is/are no god or godsCan a person be both atheistic and henotheistic simultaneously? Don’t worry if you have to look up henotheism. I had to look it up too.
Nor should they. If they research scholarly rabbinical commentary, it does not take long to realize Judaism does not read the Bible as a science book, more like a book of philosophy and/or morality. We do not expect a science text to teach our children morality; therefore we should not expect the Bible to teach them science.
Of course it teaches morality. Is there a particular story where you think it does not?Stop!
You can't claim the bibles teach morality.
Basically the whole thing. Murder! Racism! Child abuse! Lies! Superstitious beliefs! Discrimination against women!Of course it teaches morality. Is there a particular story where you think it does not?Stop!
You can't claim the bibles teach morality.
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