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Dear little twink, no one is making anything up. The glaciers are receding worldwide, the oceans are warming and becoming more acidic, and nine of the ten warmest years have been since 2000. And in my 71 years, Oregon and Washington have become progressively warmer and drier. That is direct personal observation in all parts of both states.
Dear little twink, no one is making anything up. The glaciers are receding worldwide, the oceans are warming and becoming more acidic, and nine of the ten warmest years have been since 2000. And in my 71 years, Oregon and Washington have become progressively warmer and drier. That is direct personal observation in all parts of both states.
Yet you've managed to survive all that. Go figure? Look, you wanna spend your own money and live in fear of the Global Warming Boogeyman, that's on you. But don't force the rest of us to. It's a beautiful day where i'm at today. I'm gonna live it to the fullest. I don't fear the Global Warming Boogeyman at all. And i never will.
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Dear little twink, no one is making anything up. The glaciers are receding worldwide, the oceans are warming and becoming more acidic, and nine of the ten warmest years have been since 2000. And in my 71 years, Oregon and Washington have become progressively warmer and drier. That is direct personal observation in all parts of both states.
Yet you've managed to survive all that. Go figure? Look, you wanna spend your own money and live in fear of the Global Warming Boogeyman, that's on you. But don't force the rest of us to. It's a beautiful day where i'm at today. I'm gonna live it to the fullest. I don't fear the Global Warming Boogeyman at all. And i never will.
Evidently, lots of people are with you...............
Kinda laughable............though whats funnier is all the concern with ISIS. Consensus reality cuts across many interesting paths!!!
Dear little twink, no one is making anything up. The glaciers are receding worldwide, the oceans are warming and becoming more acidic, and nine of the ten warmest years have been since 2000. And in my 71 years, Oregon and Washington have become progressively warmer and drier. That is direct personal observation in all parts of both states.
Yet you've managed to survive all that. Go figure? Look, you wanna spend your own money and live in fear of the Global Warming Boogeyman, that's on you. But don't force the rest of us to. It's a beautiful day where i'm at today. I'm gonna live it to the fullest. I don't fear the Global Warming Boogeyman at all. And i never will.
Evidently, lots of people are with you...............
Kinda laughable............though whats funnier is all the concern with ISIS. Consensus reality cuts across many interesting paths!!!
It's all about fear & control. They want their massive World Government power-grab. But even if their Global Warming Boogeyman is a real threat, most are now concluding there's nothing that can be done to reverse it. So it's a done-deal. Case closed. The endless hysterical fear mongering isn't necessary. And it's definitely time to get the fear mongering out of the schools. The kids don't deserve to be frightened that way. They already have enough on their plates.
In the end it's pretty simple. Humans will either adapt and survive... Or they won't. That's the way it is, and always has been. So i won't be going along with the Globalist Elite power-grab. I'll take my chances with the Global Warming Boogeyman instead. I don't fear him. I'll survive. Bet on that.
Dear little twink, no one is making anything up. The glaciers are receding worldwide, the oceans are warming and becoming more acidic, and nine of the ten warmest years have been since 2000. And in my 71 years, Oregon and Washington have become progressively warmer and drier. That is direct personal observation in all parts of both states.
Yet you've managed to survive all that. Go figure? Look, you wanna spend your own money and live in fear of the Global Warming Boogeyman, that's on you. But don't force the rest of us to. It's a beautiful day where i'm at today. I'm gonna live it to the fullest. I don't fear the Global Warming Boogeyman at all. And i never will.
Evidently, lots of people are with you...............
Kinda laughable............though whats funnier is all the concern with ISIS. Consensus reality cuts across many interesting paths!!!
It's all about fear & control. They want their massive World Government power-grab. But even if their Global Warming Boogeyman is a real threat, most are now concluding there's nothing that can be done to reverse it. So it's a done-deal. Case closed. The endless hysterical fear mongering isn't necessary. And it's definitely time to get the fear mongering out of the schools. The kids don't deserve to be frightened that way. They already have enough on their plates.
In the end it's pretty simple. Humans will either adapt and survive... Or they won't. That's the way it is, and always has been. So i won't be going along with the Globalist Elite power-grab. I'll take my chances with the Global Warming Boogeyman instead. I don't fear him. I'll survive. Bet on that.
ISIS........global warming..........yada...........yada...........all fear mongering my friend. It fast tracks the NWO. The amount of sheep in 2015 is jaw dropping!!
It doesn't show the skin because of the scale. But all the rest of what you say, to a point is accurate. The warming the deep water is where your assertions fail. IR can't warm water below a meter at best. That's with all the wind mixing and everything that that entails. Period.
In other words, the oceans are warmed by UV, and not IR which means the AGW claims are false.
Semantic games. If the absorbed IR stops the heat lower down from leaking out into the atmosphere, and it does, it effectively warms the oceans.
Which means AGW theory is fine, and your claims have problems.
No semantics at all. Long wave IR simply can't penetrate deep enough into water to warm anything more than the bare surface. That then rapidly cools with the atmosphere.
First of all, nothing is going to be done unless people agree to sit down and figure out what to do. Secondly, China has already agreed to clean up their act, and have already started compliance work. It isn't as much as we'd hoped for, but the Chinese themselves understand they have a problem because their own people are dying from the pollution.
It's all about fear & control. They want their massive World Government power-grab.
It's all about fear & control. They want their massive World Government power-grab.
Sadly, these kinds of bogeymen are all deniers and libertarians have now. On any topic. Modern libertarianism is now mostly about attempting to terrify the sheeple over a wide range of topics. The real world is most unkind to all the very peculiar libertarian claims, hence their constant invocation of bogeymen to convince the sheeple to retreat from the real world into the libertarian conspiracy bubble.
Now, let's check that real world.
Hmm. Some spots are warmer than normal. Some spots are colder than normal. The northeast is going to get particularly hot soon.
Wait, didn't the deniers just say the northeast being cold proves global warming was a hoax? If I was just as flagrantly dishonest, I could point to that warm spot as proof of global warming. However, I refuse to stoop to the level of deniers. Deniers all think it's justifiable (for the greater good, of course, comrade) to use fraud-by-cherrypicking, but no ethical person acts that way. Instead, I'll be intellectually honest and look at the global average. Which is +0.69C. Quite warm.
No ,it isn't a clear and present danger. I have studied it.
It doesn't show the skin because of the scale. But all the rest of what you say, to a point is accurate. The warming the deep water is where your assertions fail. IR can't warm water below a meter at best. That's with all the wind mixing and everything that that entails. Period.
In other words, the oceans are warmed by UV, and not IR which means the AGW claims are false.
Semantic games. If the absorbed IR stops the heat lower down from leaking out into the atmosphere, and it does, it effectively warms the oceans.
Which means AGW theory is fine, and your claims have problems.
No semantics at all. Long wave IR simply can't penetrate deep enough into water to warm anything more than the bare surface. That then rapidly cools with the atmosphere.
of course it's semantics.
does the atmosphere DIRECTLY heat the oceans? no, IR only penetrates a fraction of a millimeter of the surface. the absorbed energy goes into the pool of energy used to cause evaporation, which then causes convection that carries the latent heat up to the cloud tops.
does the atmosphere INDIRECTLY heat the oceans? yes, by supplying some of the energy necessary for evaporation of water at the boundary less heat is conducted to the surface by conduction. the temperature of water is controlled by both the amount of input and the amount of output. increasing input or decreasing output both cause higher temps, and vice-versa.
It doesn't show the skin because of the scale. But all the rest of what you say, to a point is accurate. The warming the deep water is where your assertions fail. IR can't warm water below a meter at best. That's with all the wind mixing and everything that that entails. Period.
In other words, the oceans are warmed by UV, and not IR which means the AGW claims are false.
Semantic games. If the absorbed IR stops the heat lower down from leaking out into the atmosphere, and it does, it effectively warms the oceans.
Which means AGW theory is fine, and your claims have problems.
No semantics at all. Long wave IR simply can't penetrate deep enough into water to warm anything more than the bare surface. That then rapidly cools with the atmosphere.
of course it's semantics.
does the atmosphere DIRECTLY heat the oceans? no, IR only penetrates a fraction of a millimeter of the surface. the absorbed energy goes into the pool of energy used to cause evaporation, which then causes convection that carries the latent heat up to the cloud tops.
does the atmosphere INDIRECTLY heat the oceans? yes, by supplying some of the energy necessary for evaporation of water at the boundary less heat is conducted to the surface by conduction. the temperature of water is controlled by both the amount of input and the amount of output. increasing input or decreasing output both cause higher temps, and vice-versa.
Warm water rises. So much for conduction Ian.
It's all about fear & control. They want their massive World Government power-grab.
Sadly, these kinds of bogeymen are all deniers and libertarians have now. On any topic. Modern libertarianism is now mostly about attempting to terrify the sheeple over a wide range of topics. The real world is most unkind to all the very peculiar libertarian claims, hence their constant invocation of bogeymen to convince the sheeple to retreat from the real world into the libertarian conspiracy bubble.
Now, let's check that real world.
Hmm. Some spots are warmer than normal. Some spots are colder than normal. The northeast is going to get particularly hot soon.
Wait, didn't the deniers just say the northeast being cold proves global warming was a hoax? If I was just as flagrantly dishonest, I could point to that warm spot as proof of global warming. However, I refuse to stoop to the level of deniers. Deniers all think it's justifiable (for the greater good, of course, comrade) to use fraud-by-cherrypicking, but no ethical person acts that way. Instead, I'll be intellectually honest and look at the global average. Which is +0.69C. Quite warm.
Semantic games. If the absorbed IR stops the heat lower down from leaking out into the atmosphere, and it does, it effectively warms the oceans.
Which means AGW theory is fine, and your claims have problems.
No semantics at all. Long wave IR simply can't penetrate deep enough into water to warm anything more than the bare surface. That then rapidly cools with the atmosphere.
But it can warm the surface very effectively; and the thermal conductivity of water along with ocean convection does the rest.
I guess you forgot the fact that warm water rises. That escaped you huh?
And when it can't rise any more, what do you think happens? It expands, raising sea levels, and spreads out, etc. The ocean is a very dynamic place. When you add energy to it, things happen.
When it can't rise anymore it interacts with the atmosphere which cools it to ambient. That's how physics works.
First of all, nothing is going to be done unless people agree to sit down and figure out what to do. Secondly, China has already agreed to clean up their act, and have already started compliance work. It isn't as much as we'd hoped for, but the Chinese themselves understand they have a problem because their own people are dying from the pollution.
Yep some time in 2030 they MIGHT start to comply. until then we get the finger and we are told to destroy ourselves, our economy, our military, OUR SOVEREIGNTY.. What kind of idiot believes this propaganda? Alarmists shills and communists that's who along with fools.
No semantics at all. Long wave IR simply can't penetrate deep enough into water to warm anything more than the bare surface. That then rapidly cools with the atmosphere.
But it can warm the surface very effectively; and the thermal conductivity of water along with ocean convection does the rest.
I guess you forgot the fact that warm water rises. That escaped you huh?
And when it can't rise any more, what do you think happens? It expands, raising sea levels, and spreads out, etc. The ocean is a very dynamic place. When you add energy to it, things happen.
When it can't rise anymore it interacts with the atmosphere which cools it to ambient. That's how physics works.
Except when the atmosphere is warmer than the sea. Then it can't cool that way. See how that works?
First of all, nothing is going to be done unless people agree to sit down and figure out what to do. Secondly, China has already agreed to clean up their act, and have already started compliance work. It isn't as much as we'd hoped for, but the Chinese themselves understand they have a problem because their own people are dying from the pollution.
Yep some time in 2030 they MIGHT start to comply. until then we get the finger and we are told to destroy ourselves, our economy, our military, OUR SOVEREIGNTY.. What kind of idiot believes this propaganda? Alarmists shills and communists that's who along with fools.
Enjoy your false flag.
Building on strong progress during the first six years of the Administration, today President Obama announced a new target to cut net greenhouse gas emissions 26-28 percent below 2005 levels by 2025. At the same time, President Xi Jinping of China announced targets to peak CO2 emissions around 2030, with the intention to try to peak early, and to increase the non-fossil fuel share of all energy to around 20 percent by 2030.
It's about time we go back to the impending Ice Age as projected in the 80's.
It doesn't show the skin because of the scale. But all the rest of what you say, to a point is accurate. The warming the deep water is where your assertions fail. IR can't warm water below a meter at best. That's with all the wind mixing and everything that that entails. Period.
In other words, the oceans are warmed by UV, and not IR which means the AGW claims are false.
Semantic games. If the absorbed IR stops the heat lower down from leaking out into the atmosphere, and it does, it effectively warms the oceans.
Which means AGW theory is fine, and your claims have problems.
No semantics at all. Long wave IR simply can't penetrate deep enough into water to warm anything more than the bare surface. That then rapidly cools with the atmosphere.
of course it's semantics.
does the atmosphere DIRECTLY heat the oceans? no, IR only penetrates a fraction of a millimeter of the surface. the absorbed energy goes into the pool of energy used to cause evaporation, which then causes convection that carries the latent heat up to the cloud tops.
does the atmosphere INDIRECTLY heat the oceans? yes, by supplying some of the energy necessary for evaporation of water at the boundary less heat is conducted to the surface by conduction. the temperature of water is controlled by both the amount of input and the amount of output. increasing input or decreasing output both cause higher temps, and vice-versa.
Warm water rises. So much for conduction Ian.
I wonder how thermoclines in the ocean are overcome. Seems to me it would take massive amounts of heat or large amounts of out gassing to turn over the layers. I wonder how heat would magically make it under one of those thermoclines without forcing? I guess I dont know Thermal or Liquid dynamics... [/sarcasm]
You do realize how completely full of shit you are, correct? Here is what Dr. Hansen published in 1981, the link leads to the full article, so you can educate yourself as to what the scientists were really stating in the '80's.No ,it isn't a clear and present danger. I have studied it.
It's about time we go back to the impending Ice Age as projected in the 80's.
Lots of folks have staked their careers on Global Warming/Climate Change/ hoopla ... Not like they are ever going to admit they might be a little off.
The same type folks that want to express driving a Prius here will go further towards fixing Global Warming than any of the other countries we share the globe with cleaning up their act.
It is all headed for United Nations bull ... Won't be long until we are trading Carbon Credits on Cricket Futures ... Cleaning up the air and feeding the poor at the same time.
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