how quickly do proteins evolve ?

[ding]

PREDICT THE OUTCOME or shut up and go away.

Why can't you predict the outcome of a deterministic system?

Duh....

You're not a good engineer. Good engineers can predict outcomes.

Good engineers predict distributions of outcomes. Unless of course we are talking about structural designs. In those cases we model reaction forces and use safety factors to calculate acceptable stresses.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Lots of variables, lots of complexity, lots of interconnected relationships.

He's clearly becoming frustrated and resorting to ad-hominem now. Anyone can go to Google or Bing and type "is chaos random" and see the results. Nobody equates a random system with a chaotic system.

 

[ding]

He's clearly becoming frustrated and resorting to ad-hominem now. Anyone can go to Google or Bing and type "is chaos random" and see the results. Nobody equates a random system with a chaotic system.

Unless one is shooting from the hip.

 

[scruffy]

Because it's chaotic.

Fine.

You admit it's impossible to predict the outcome.

Therefore it's random.

End of story.

 

[ReinyDays]

Lots of variables, lots of complexity, lots of interconnected relationships.

... and lots and lots of time ...

 

[scruffy]

Good engineers predict distributions of outcomes. Unless of course we are talking about structural designs. In those cases we model reaction forces and use safety factors to calculate acceptable stresses.

Oh, DISTRIBUTIONS now.

Probability 101.

Did you actually go to school?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Fine.

You admit it's impossible to predict the outcome.

Therefore it's random.

End of story.

Nope, still wrong, keep trying. That you can't compute the outcome does NOT mean that therefore the outcome is random.

 

[ding]

Oh, DISTRIBUTIONS now.

Probability 101.

Did you actually go to school?

Sure. Engineering is the commercial application of science. As such we have to develop cost models, budgets and AFE's. All of which are based upon probabilistic estimates. The actual costs are deterministic. The predictions of costs are probabilistic.

 

[ding]

Did you actually go to school?

I'm wondering if you did.

 

[scruffy]

Unless one is shooting from the hip.

I already provided a formal mathematical proof.

I am not responsible for your erroneous opinion.

PREDICT THE OUTCOME.

If you can't do that, stop with the creationist bullshit.

You asswipes are just ignorant trolls.

 

[scruffy]

Sure. Engineering is the commercial application of science. As such we have to develop cost models, budgets and AFE's. All of which are based upon probabilistic estimates. The actual costs are deterministic. The predictions of costs are probabilistic.

HORSESHIT.

You lose.

 

[ding]

I already provided a formal mathematical proof.

I am not responsible for your erroneous opinion.

PREDICT THE OUTCOME.

If you can't do that, stop with the creationist bullshit.

You asswipes are just ignorant trolls.

You won't even answer the question is chaos random?

 

[ding]

HORSESHIT.

You lose.

How is it horseshit? Can you explain why you believe that?

 

[scruffy]

Sure. Engineering is the commercial application of science. As such we have to develop cost models, budgets and AFE's. All of which are based upon probabilistic estimates. The actual costs are deterministic. The predictions of costs are probabilistic.

lmao

"The actual costs are deterministic".

Right.

 

[scruffy]

You won't even answer the question is chaos random?

Not anymore.

I have to go to work, I have no time for this nonsense

 

[ding]

lmao

"The actual costs are deterministic".

Right.

Was that too complicated of an explanation for you?

 

[ding]

Not anymore.

I have to go to work, I have no time for this nonsense

Is chaos random?

 

[ReinyDays]

HORSESHIT.
You lose.

We're playing a game? ... I thought we had chaperons ... now what am I supposed to do with this phosphoglycerate kinase I've been collecting? ...

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Not anymore.

I have to go to work, I have no time for this nonsense

Truly blind, an insightful man will (at least privately) admit that when he's asked a question he cannot answer, then there's an opportunity there, an opportunity to learn, the situation is to be valued not dismissed as nonsense, not be avoided.

A man who thinks he knows everything has stopped learning anything, I pity you.