I feel used up’: Carrier workers aren’t happy about losing jobs after Trump’s ‘deal

[Aries]

Actually 28 bills have been passed.

In office less than 100 days, out of a 1408 day term. Lol

I don't get it. Carrier isn't moving to Mexico and maybe Trump saved 800 jobs rather than 1400 and Carrier is getting a hefty tax break. Is the NY Times editorial complaining that Trump "only" saved 800 jobs instead of 1400? How many jobs did Obama save with the laughable "cash for clunkers bill". After a hefty tax break Solyndra took the money and filed for bankruptcy.

I don't get it. Carrier isn't moving to Mexico and maybe Trump saved 800 jobs rather than 1400 and Carrier is getting a hefty tax break. Is the NY Times editorial complaining that Trump "only" saved 800 jobs instead of 1400? How many jobs did Obama save with the laughable "cash for clunkers bill". After a hefty tax break Solyndra took the money and filed for bankruptcy.

The complaint is that he had campaigned on the promise that any business trying to export jobs would be taxed sooooo heavily on incoming products, that it wouldn't be beneficial for them to export said jobs. I thought this was a halfway decent idea. Instead, he did the opposite and started offering HUGE tax breaks begging them to stay. For one, this is only perpetuating the problem of corporate welfare. For two, he taught every other company how to receive huge tax break- threaten to export jobs. For three, trump, in normal trump fashion boasted about saving about twice the amount of jobs that were actually saved. So imagine thinking that your job was saved, then being fired.

Not a single legislative accomplishment in the first 100 day. A record!

28 bills... 13-15 being bills that only reverse Obama era policies. The rest being useless.
least effective 100 days we have ever seen.

 

[Aries]

Actually 28 bills have been passed.

In office less than 100 days, out of a 1408 day term. Lol

The complaint is that he had campaigned on the promise that any business trying to export jobs would be taxed sooooo heavily on incoming products, that it wouldn't be beneficial for them to export said jobs. I thought this was a halfway decent idea. Instead, he did the opposite and started offering HUGE tax breaks begging them to stay. For one, this is only perpetuating the problem of corporate welfare. For two, he taught every other company how to receive huge tax break- threaten to export jobs. For three, trump, in normal trump fashion boasted about saving about twice the amount of jobs that were actually saved. So imagine thinking that your job was saved, then being fired.

Not a single legislative accomplishment in the first 100 day. A record!

What does Congress have to do with Trump failure?

What Trump failure? They couldn't save all the jobs because parts of production moving was already in the works. Obama did nothing for them and Trump helped negotiate a good portion of jobs staying. You don't like it and it's tough shit.

Yea what a negotiator

 

[Iceweasel]

Actually 28 bills have been passed.

In office less than 100 days, out of a 1408 day term. Lol

Not a single legislative accomplishment in the first 100 day. A record!

What does Congress have to do with Trump failure?

What Trump failure? They couldn't save all the jobs because parts of production moving was already in the works. Obama did nothing for them and Trump helped negotiate a good portion of jobs staying. You don't like it and it's tough shit.

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

 

[Aries]

Actually 28 bills have been passed.

Not a single legislative accomplishment in the first 100 day. A record!

What does Congress have to do with Trump failure?

What Trump failure? They couldn't save all the jobs because parts of production moving was already in the works. Obama did nothing for them and Trump helped negotiate a good portion of jobs staying. You don't like it and it's tough shit.

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

I disagree. I think his original plan that he never even tried sounded much better. Corporations don't need any more tax breaks. 1 in 4 large corporations pay no taxes.

 

[koshergrl]

Actually 28 bills have been passed.

Not a single legislative accomplishment in the first 100 day. A record!

What does Congress have to do with Trump failure?

What Trump failure? They couldn't save all the jobs because parts of production moving was already in the works. Obama did nothing for them and Trump helped negotiate a good portion of jobs staying. You don't like it and it's tough shit.

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

 

[Aries]

Actually 28 bills have been passed.

What does Congress have to do with Trump failure?

What Trump failure? They couldn't save all the jobs because parts of production moving was already in the works. Obama did nothing for them and Trump helped negotiate a good portion of jobs staying. You don't like it and it's tough shit.

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

 

[koshergrl]

What does Congress have to do with Trump failure?

What Trump failure? They couldn't save all the jobs because parts of production moving was already in the works. Obama did nothing for them and Trump helped negotiate a good portion of jobs staying. You don't like it and it's tough shit.

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Obama told us.

Unlike you, I actually listen to what people say, instead of applying a special translation filter to the things people say so I don't have to acknowledge the fact that I'm I baby killing pig who supports and justifies the actions of tyrants and murderers.

 

[Thinker101]

What does Congress have to do with Trump failure?

What Trump failure? They couldn't save all the jobs because parts of production moving was already in the works. Obama did nothing for them and Trump helped negotiate a good portion of jobs staying. You don't like it and it's tough shit.

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Not too sure if many people need a crystal ball. Just drive past a couple strip malls and take a look at the vacancy rates.

 

[Aries]

What Trump failure? They couldn't save all the jobs because parts of production moving was already in the works. Obama did nothing for them and Trump helped negotiate a good portion of jobs staying. You don't like it and it's tough shit.

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Not too sure if many people need a crystal ball. Just drive past a couple strip malls and take a look at the vacancy rates.

Ah, and that was all Obama?

Didn't his predessor oversee the greatest economic recession since the great depression? Don't you think things were bad before Obama?
Alas, we are speaking to republicans--- "BLAME THE BLACK GUY!!" "cheers, whistles, everyone quick put your hood up!"

 

[JakeStarkey]

I don't get it. Carrier isn't moving to Mexico and maybe Trump saved 800 jobs rather than 1400 and Carrier is getting a hefty tax break. Is the NY Times editorial complaining that Trump "only" saved 800 jobs instead of 1400? How many jobs did Obama save with the laughable "cash for clunkers bill". After a hefty tax break Solyndra took the money and filed for bankruptcy.

So you want Trump to be like Obama. Got it?

 

[koshergrl]

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Not too sure if many people need a crystal ball. Just drive past a couple strip malls and take a look at the vacancy rates.

Ah, and that was all Obama?

Didn't his predessor oversee the greatest economic recession since the great depression? Don't you think things were bad before Obama?
Alas, we are speaking to republicans--- "BLAME THE BLACK GUY!!" "cheers, whistles, everyone quick put your hood up!"

I love the hysterical, fanatical knee jerk reaction of obamites whenever someone dares to criticize their master.

 

[Thinker101]

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Not too sure if many people need a crystal ball. Just drive past a couple strip malls and take a look at the vacancy rates.

Ah, and that was all Obama?

Didn't his predessor oversee the greatest economic recession since the great depression? Don't you think things were bad before Obama?
Alas, we are speaking to republicans--- "BLAME THE BLACK GUY!!" "cheers, whistles, everyone quick put your hood up!"

Wow, the race card already.

 

[Aries]

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Not too sure if many people need a crystal ball. Just drive past a couple strip malls and take a look at the vacancy rates.

Ah, and that was all Obama?

Didn't his predessor oversee the greatest economic recession since the great depression? Don't you think things were bad before Obama?
Alas, we are speaking to republicans--- "BLAME THE BLACK GUY!!" "cheers, whistles, everyone quick put your hood up!"

Wow, the race card already.

yea well when you act like we have only had economic problems since our first black president and everything was peachykeen before him, while W had us all flopping around like fish out of water gasping for air.. I will call you on your biased, yes.

 

[Iceweasel]

Yea what a negotiator

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Not too sure if many people need a crystal ball. Just drive past a couple strip malls and take a look at the vacancy rates.

Ah, and that was all Obama?

Didn't his predessor oversee the greatest economic recession since the great depression? Don't you think things were bad before Obama?
Alas, we are speaking to republicans--- "BLAME THE BLACK GUY!!" "cheers, whistles, everyone quick put your hood up!"

The black guy? Bush was no fiscal conservative but blaming him alone for the crash is lame. But I always wonder how his 5 trillion in added debt killed us but Obama's 10 trillion saved us.I can't do that kind of mental gymnastics.

 

[Iceweasel]

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Not too sure if many people need a crystal ball. Just drive past a couple strip malls and take a look at the vacancy rates.

Ah, and that was all Obama?

Didn't his predessor oversee the greatest economic recession since the great depression? Don't you think things were bad before Obama?
Alas, we are speaking to republicans--- "BLAME THE BLACK GUY!!" "cheers, whistles, everyone quick put your hood up!"

Wow, the race card already.

yea well when you act like we have only had economic problems since our first black president and everything was peachykeen before him, while W had us all flopping around like fish out of water gasping for air.. I will call you on your biased, yes.

You're a racist. It had zip to do with race.

 

[Aries]

Not just Carrier but many have decided to stay and build here. Sure sounds better than the dumbshit that thought he could spend and regulate and economy into prosperity.

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Not too sure if many people need a crystal ball. Just drive past a couple strip malls and take a look at the vacancy rates.

Ah, and that was all Obama?

Didn't his predessor oversee the greatest economic recession since the great depression? Don't you think things were bad before Obama?
Alas, we are speaking to republicans--- "BLAME THE BLACK GUY!!" "cheers, whistles, everyone quick put your hood up!"

The black guy? Bush was no fiscal conservative but blaming him alone for the crash is lame. But I always wonder how his 5 trillion in added debt killed us but Obama's 10 trillion saved us.I can't do that kind of mental gymnastics.

yes, economics is very complex! Who knew economics could be so complex??

 

[Thinker101]

Obama never had a dream of propserity for the US.

His dream was the dream of his fathers...supreme power and wealth for himself; and everybody else wallowing in poverty, violence, and filth.

your crystal ball told you so? Or alex jones told you so?

Not too sure if many people need a crystal ball. Just drive past a couple strip malls and take a look at the vacancy rates.

Ah, and that was all Obama?

Didn't his predessor oversee the greatest economic recession since the great depression? Don't you think things were bad before Obama?
Alas, we are speaking to republicans--- "BLAME THE BLACK GUY!!" "cheers, whistles, everyone quick put your hood up!"

The black guy? Bush was no fiscal conservative but blaming him alone for the crash is lame. But I always wonder how his 5 trillion in added debt killed us but Obama's 10 trillion saved us.I can't do that kind of mental gymnastics.

yes, economics is very complex! Who knew economics could be so complex??

Evidently simple math is a little too complex for you too..

 

[IsaacNewton]

Fifty-six-year-old Jim Shalle doesn’t want to complain but things aren’t going well, The New York Times reported.

“I’m a routine guy, and I’m not boohooing,” he said. “But I feel used up.”

Unfortunately, Jim isn’t alone. His colleague Pat is still working for Carrier but with production ending just after Christmas, she knows her days are numbered. She’s been with the company for 40 years after graduating from high school, as did her daughter, who is now 33 years old.

“I loved my job,” she said. “It’s all I’ve ever known.”

While then-Gov. Mike Pence bribed Carrier with a hefty tax break deal, instead of 1400 jobs heading to Mexico — that number is more like 800. Both Jim and Pat thought they’d be OK, but the plant in Huntington wasn’t part of the deal. The so-called “buy American” mandate and federal infrastructure projects Trump has promised also wouldn’t do anything to help.
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While then-Gov. Mike Pence bribed Carrier with a hefty tax break deal, instead of 1400 jobs heading to Mexico — that number is more like 800. Both Jim and Pat thought they’d be OK, but the plant in Huntington wasn’t part of the deal.

They can't go to West Virginia to mine coal, those people aren't getting jobs either.

Trump - The Big Lie

 

[jknowgood]

I don't get it. Carrier isn't moving to Mexico and maybe Trump saved 800 jobs rather than 1400 and Carrier is getting a hefty tax break. Is the NY Times editorial complaining that Trump "only" saved 800 jobs instead of 1400?

Trump didn't save any jobs, it was the state tax breaks that kept some jobs in the US. Of course there are other Carrier plants that Trump conveniently never mentioned, and those jobs are also going to Mexico

So with your logic Trump didn't do anything. So what are you complaining about?

 

[brummelben]

I don't get it. Carrier isn't moving to Mexico and maybe Trump saved 800 jobs rather than 1400 and Carrier is getting a hefty tax break. Is the NY Times editorial complaining that Trump "only" saved 800 jobs instead of 1400?

Trump didn't save any jobs, it was the state tax breaks that kept some jobs in the US. Of course there are other Carrier plants that Trump conveniently never mentioned, and those jobs are also going to Mexico

So with your logic Trump didn't do anything. So what are you complaining about?

Thats the problem, we have a president who does nothing, blames everyone else for his screw ups and takes credit for everything he didn't do