ICE Forcibly Removes Woman Waiting for Emergency Brain Surgery Form Hospital

[ColonelAngus]

Awesome, we saved taxpayer money by not performing the brain surgery.

Illegal immigrants should not get taxpayer provided benefits.

We already can't afford the funding American Citizen freeloaders...we can't also take on deadbeats from foreign lands.

 

[dannyboys]

From the link:

"The agency said in a statement Thursday, “During her stay at the hospital, ICE ensured that she was able to speak to her family and to her attorney by phone. Like all detainees in our care, Ms. Beltran will continue to have access to 24 hour emergency medical care and to any required specialized treatment at an outside facility.’’ The statement also said that a doctor had determined she was stable enough to be discharged and that she will be seen again by a medical specialist next week."


Most of the statements in the article come from her legal team, whose job it is to make ICE look bad.

The only statement given by the hospital seems to contradict the lawyers' statements.

Looks like the hospital already planned to discharge her pending an appointment the following week with a specialist. Any surgery would be scheduled after that appointment.

The actions of ICE does not really make sense. Why would they remove a woman diagnosed with a brain tumor already scheduled for surgery in 3 days to put her in detention? Brain surgery is not a cheap operation, $50,000 to $150,000 and if complications develop, the sky is limit and ICE could be stuck with the costs. And if the woman dies in detention, they're going to be facing one hell of a lawsuit. The sensible thing to do is let the woman have the surgery and then deport her.

BTW when the hospital says a patient is stable it means their condition is not worsening and they can be transported. It does not mean they don't need further care. My grandfather left the emergency room in stable condition and was dead in 48 hours.

So when ICE is stuck with the medical bills who does ICE send the bills to?????????
The fucking taxpayers!!!!!!!!!! AKA the MAKERS!!!!!
The question that hasn't been asked is: If this woman was so deathly sick why did she have to be restrained hands and feet? She was obviously healthy enough to fight the ICE agents.
Usually someone that sick would be barely able to get into a wheelchair.
She KNEW she was sick when she tried to sneak into the country to get free medical care.
Doesn't take a genius to figure that out!

 

[dannyboys]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

So she wasn't an illegal?

That has not been established.
Beltran Hernandez was picked up by immigration agents in November 2015 while trying to get from El Salvador to New York to visit her mother and other relatives who live in Queens. She has been detained ever since at the Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas, while her family petitioned for asylum, citing threats of violence against her, from a domestic partner, among others. She was transferred from the detention center to the hospital in Fort Worth this month after complaining of headaches, nosebleeds and memory loss. Doctors diagnosed a brain tumor and put her on a waiting list for emergency surgery, which was supposed to take place this weekend.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

Seems she may not have realized Obama is gone.....

She has been in detention at Prairieland for nearly two years under Obama. Why would they want her back in detention instead getting medical care so she can be deported? It's not likely EL Salvador would take her back even if a judge signed the deportation order.

Oh....well it seems she would be better off getting medical care close to her home and family then....

She could go to Cuba for the "best free health care in the world". When it was her turn to be seen by a doctor someone could put her in a wheelbarrow and take her to the local hospital.

 

[dannyboys]

God, you really are a putz. She put herself in the position to be arrested and detained. She should have already been gone, but your dear leader thought the laws don't matter. Can you say, there's a new sheriff in town?

You know, and I know, it is a little more complicated than that...
I don't like illegal immigration either however once they're here you treat them like humans...

What's wrong with the governments of all these countries whose citizens are desperate to escape from?
There must be something wrong.
There's not an international pack packer from the US who dares sew an American flag on their pack.
America is almost universally hated by almost everyone on the planet yet these America haters all want to come to the place they hate the most.

 

[dannyboys]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

That's alright. they probably deported the surgeon as well. One quarter of our medical professionals are foreign born.

That brings to mind how ICE works. First, there is a presumption of guilt. If you are stopped by an ICE agent and asked for identification and do not have it in your possession, you will be assumed guilty. What that means is the only right you have now is due process. You will be given a chance to contact a legal representative if you know who to contact. You may or not be given an opportunity to contact your family. Detention centers will usually give access to a phone at some point but that is not guaranteed. That depends on regulation and how the detention center works. You will be asked if want a hearing or whether you will agree to voluntary deportation. Likely, the agent will explain to you why you might want to accept voluntary deportation. Most detainees select voluntary deportation rather than being held in a detention center for an indeterminate period. If you choose a hearing, you will given a date. You may or you may not be released prior to your hearing. Depending on how busy the court is, your hearing may be in a week or 6 months or longer. While you are in detention, you may be transported to another detention center. ICE is not required to notify you or your legal representative. Once you get a hearing, you will be allowed to present evidence as to why you should not be deported, however you will not be told what evidence will be legally acceptable. If you do not have legal counsel, none will be appointed. You will be informed of your right to appeal but you will not be told how you might do that. Once the court makes it's decision to deport you, an immigration judge will sign the deportation order. You will be deported to the country that you claim is your country of origin providing that country will accept you. If it will not, then you can select another country. Eventually, you will be deported somewhere.

So yes, the doctor could be deported. In fact, anyone can that does have proper identification. If you have dark skin, have any kind of accent, you should carry good identification with you at all times or you may find yourself sitting on a curb in from of an airport in Yemen. Once deported proving you are a legal resident or a US citizen is not that easy. If you don't have prove of citizenship or legal residency in the US, it's unlikely that you will be able to talk to anyone in a US Embassy or a US consulate.

Why don't you have at least enough personal integrity to use quotation marks when you C&P someone elses words?
You're a fucking joke!
SUUUUURE "anyone can be deported if they have proper identification" SUUUUURE.
ICE: "I see you have proper identification and you're a doctor. However this morning my fellow ICE agents and I decided this morning we'd round up a few legal 'dark skinned' doctors and deport them because we felt like it".

 

[dannyboys]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

What trump is doing here is viscous & evil, and I hope that pos burns in hell for this.

ICE under BONOBO detained this woman two years ago.
If 'Trump' had taken it upon himself to go against BONOBO's order YOU would be screaming about what a 'POS' Trump is for not following BONOBO's orders.
Fucking moron!

 

[dannyboys]

From the link:

"The agency said in a statement Thursday, “During her stay at the hospital, ICE ensured that she was able to speak to her family and to her attorney by phone. Like all detainees in our care, Ms. Beltran will continue to have access to 24 hour emergency medical care and to any required specialized treatment at an outside facility.’’ The statement also said that a doctor had determined she was stable enough to be discharged and that she will be seen again by a medical specialist next week."


Most of the statements in the article come from her legal team, whose job it is to make ICE look bad.

The only statement given by the hospital seems to contradict the lawyers' statements.

Looks like the hospital already planned to discharge her pending an appointment the following week with a specialist. Any surgery would be scheduled after that appointment.

The actions of ICE does not really make sense. Why would they remove a woman diagnosed with a brain tumor already scheduled for surgery in 3 days to put her in detention? Brain surgery is not a cheap operation, $50,000 to $150,000 and if complications develop, the sky is limit and ICE could be stuck with the costs. And if the woman dies in detention, they're going to be facing one hell of a lawsuit. The sensible thing to do is let the woman have the surgery and then deport her.

BTW when the hospital says a patient is stable it means their condition is not worsening and they can be transported. It does not mean they don't need further care. My grandfather left the emergency room in stable condition and was dead in 48 hours.

Why do they not make sense? You are making assumptions here that I do not think are justified. Why should ICE not remove her from the hospital if she is in stable condition and not required to stay? Staying in emergency care can cost 10,000 dollars or more per day. Considering that the hospital discharged her and cleared it, why would ICE keep her there? What possible reason could they have for not returning her to detention untill the surgery date like any other patient would undergo?

My son has been in numerous surgeries that were under somewhat similar circumstances (minus the detention) and it is quite common to leave the hospital and stay at home until the actual date of the surgery itself with specific instructions on when to come back in. If she was stable there is little to be gained by keeping her in the hospital taking up a bed that someone not stable can use.

The detention center transported her to the hospital because she was sick. Taking the patient out of the hospital when she is on a waiting list for surgery in just a few days makes no sense. It's a 60 mile drive to the hospital from the detention center. It's not like their going to be to deporting a women in a wheelchair with a brain tumor awaiting surgery. Since the center said she will be examined by a doctor next week for treatment options, they certainly aren't planning on brain surgery this weekend.

According to the hospital, she was being released awaiting her consultation regarding surgery, not surgery. The actual surgery would likely be scheduled at the consultation. ICE picked her up since she was being released back to where she came from ... the detention facility. While there, she is receiving medical care and has already had the diagnosis verified.

You misunderstood the "emergency" in the lawyers' press release. All hype, no bite.

I think emergency can mean a lot things. You're right there is a lot hype. I've read all media releases and there is a lot BS in them but one seems clear. This lady is going to need surgery to survive and even that may not save her.

If she dies on the operating table President Trump will be blamed by the LIB MSM.

 

[Clementine]

Most of the statements in the article come from her legal team, whose job it is to make ICE look bad.

Naw, I think that when ICE yanks sick people out of hospitals, they make themselves look bad.

Maybe if their fat, donut eating asses could run fast enough, they could catch undocumented workers who weren't bedridden.

The hospital was going to releases her. She had an appointment the next week with a specialist. No reason to keep her hospitalized and no emergency surgery imminent. It's likely that the specialist would decide the following week whether surgery was an option.

The lawyers lied to make Trump look mean. It sucks that the woman has health issues but hospitals don't release anyone who needs emergency surgery, which there aren't waiting lists for unless a bunch of people need surgery all at once and they are forced to choose the worst go first. Otherwise, emergency surgery is done when needed. Period.

The whole article is a lame attempt to make it sound like the Trump administration is going to grab people right out of the operating room and put them in jail.

Huge fail. The article is yet another example of fake news that is designed to paint a phony picture.

 

[Flopper]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

Yeah and just who was going to pay for her surjury??

If she is being detained by the US government, the answer is obvious.

 

[Claudette]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

Yeah and just who was going to pay for her surjury??

If she is being detained by the US government, the answer is obvious.

Not to me. No reason the American Taxpayer should foot the bill for an illegal.

Load her up and ship her back to her own country. Let them pay for her surgery.

 

[Flopper]

Awesome, we saved taxpayer money by not performing the brain surgery.

Illegal immigrants should not get taxpayer provided benefits.

We already can't afford the funding American Citizen freeloaders...we can't also take on deadbeats from foreign lands.

If you don't detain or imprison them, then you don't have to pay.

 

[Dr Grump]

Sure If you and idiots like you want to pay for that treatment.

She's an illegal alien who should be booted back to her own country. Let them pay for her treatment.

Ah, the compassionate conservative...

 

[Claudette]

Sure If you and idiots like you want to pay for that treatment.

She's an illegal alien who should be booted back to her own country. Let them pay for her treatment.

Ah, the compassionate conservative...

Compassionate my ass. I'm not interested in bankrolling some skag from another country who came her for free health care.

Take you're bleeding heart and shove it up your stupid ass.

 

[ding]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

I agree. It is sad. Sad that it ever had to get to this point.

 

[Dr Grump]

Sure If you and idiots like you want to pay for that treatment.

She's an illegal alien who should be booted back to her own country. Let them pay for her treatment.

Ah, the compassionate conservative...

Compassionate my ass. I'm not interested in bankrolling some skag from another country who came her for free health care.

Take you're bleeding heart and shove it up your stupid ass.

Listen here you silly slapper, most immigrants don't come for the 'free' health care. They come for a better life. They work hard for a pittance because fat, lazy morons like you can't be fucked doing menial jobs. This is why you're a fake news acolyte and a Deplorable. You speak in cliches and stereotypes. You have no idea of her story or what she is about. You just lump her into a basket and keep her there. God, I wish there was an IQ test before people were allowed to vote. It would stop morons like you deciding the fate on intelligent, compassionate people....

 

[Dr Grump]

What's wrong with the governments of all these countries whose citizens are desperate to escape from?
There must be something wrong.
There's not an international pack packer from the US who dares sew an American flag on their pack.
America is almost universally hated by almost everyone on the planet yet these America haters all want to come to the place they hate the most.

Bullshit. More generalising BS with nothing to back it up..

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So she wasn't an illegal?

That has not been established.
Beltran Hernandez was picked up by immigration agents in November 2015 while trying to get from El Salvador to New York to visit her mother and other relatives who live in Queens. She has been detained ever since at the Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas, while her family petitioned for asylum, citing threats of violence against her, from a domestic partner, among others. She was transferred from the detention center to the hospital in Fort Worth this month after complaining of headaches, nosebleeds and memory loss. Doctors diagnosed a brain tumor and put her on a waiting list for emergency surgery, which was supposed to take place this weekend.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

Seems she may not have realized Obama is gone.....

She has been in detention at Prairieland for nearly two years under Obama. Why would they want her back in detention instead getting medical care so she can be deported? It's not likely EL Salvador would take her back even if a judge signed the deportation order.

Maybe they didn't want her to disappear after they discharged her from the hospital..

A women with a brain tumor scheduled for surgery with nose bleeds, loss of memory, and serve headaches is really not likely to walk out of a hospital where she is being treated all at government expense.

How the heck do you know what she is capable of doing?

The point is that she is receiving care and was sent back to detention until they get her surgery scheduled. Right?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Does not have to but then we do want out citizens treated in a decent manner when in other countries. I don't see in any of the articles online any mention of anyone talking to El Salvador. Why isn't her own involved making arrangements for her healthcare in El Salvador since her deport order went out months ago?

Has their been a deportation order signed?
I'm not familiar with EL Savador immigration procedures but in order to transport a person to a foreign country, that country must agree to accept the person or the airline will not transport them. A person being deported with a serious medical condition may or may or may not be accepted. There are 23 countries now that are reluctant to take US deportees. They don't necessarily refuse, they just delay approving. If ICE can't deport them in 6 mos of the deportation order, they have to release them.

I say give them training and drop them in by parachute.

Sounds like a good way to start a war, however this may certainly be a part of Trump's plans.

Who in the world would be stupid enough to start a war over something so insignificant as returning illegal immigrants?

Military conflict that lead to war are often triggered over rather minor event. The archduke of Austria-Hungary is assassinated by Serbian nationalist and one thing led to another and finally a war that engulfed Europe and the US leaving 20 million dead in 4 years warfare.

Failed history in high school, huh?

That;s is the biggest over-simplification I have seen in quite a while.

 

[Eloy]

No-one can claim they didn't see this coming. Trump gave fair warning.

 

[Clementine]

How the heck do you know what she is capable of doing?

The point is that she is receiving care and was sent back to detention until they get her surgery scheduled. Right?

Don't bother liberals with facts. They have ignored them so far.

The hospital released the woman. She wasn't on a waiting list for emergency surgery or she would have stayed put. And there are no 'waiting lists' for emergency surgery. If you need it, you get it. Unless all ORs are full, no waiting. Or she would be sent to another hospital. That was the lawyer's lame attempt at making it sound like Trump had her plucked off the operating table and sent to jail.

The libs love to claim that all illegals are here for a better life. What they don't admit is that often times they find a better life by ruining a citizen's life by either stealing their SSN or their whole identity. Drug dealers want a better life, which means making big bucks. Human traffickers want a better life by kidnapping and forcing young women into prostitution. Criminals want a better life by having a new pool of victims and sanctuary cities to hide in.

Americans used to do the 'menial' jobs but since illegals will do it cheaper, things changed. Of course, in this day and age where so many think they are entitled to so much and get participation trophies, it's hard to explain to them that working is the way to go. I recall some welfare recipients living in government housing who sued because they were expected to mow the lawns at the housing they were given. How dare anyone expect them to lift a finger to maintain the yard. It's gotten that insane.

Many of those who do work suddenly think they should get a good wage for little starter jobs. Many quit school and have no marketable skills but think that job flipping burgers should pay enough to raise their growing families. And the liberals are always encouraging people to expect everything for doing little or nothing.

That is why illegals are able to find jobs. Aside from offering cheap labor (the left doesn't fight for $15 an hour for them), there are too many citizens who actually believe that some work is beneath them despite having no education or skills.

Some jobs that illegals hold used to pay more competitive wages.

Funny how the left think some loser with an 8th grade education and a long police record deserves $15 an hour but that poor illegal alien should continue to work for slave wages and no benefits. Of course, they try to make it up to them by ensuring that they get free Obamacare and other government benefits.