Zone1 If Jesus Was A Jew

[hobelim]

Said the religious nutjob who can't tolerate others having different religious beliefs.

Like I said many times, I don't care if you listen or don't listen. My hands have been washed clean.

You can live out the rest of your days blubbering in church on your knees praying to a figment of a perverse fourth century Romans imagination with different 'religious beliefs' and I won't care at all.

The more you try to impugn me with your scurrilous lies the more you will suffer and feel the pain of the loss of your eternal soul. The more you seem to proceed towards God in your unrestrained imagination in your ignoble quest to defend lies, the further you will recede from God in actuality.

If you don't believe me, carry on!

 

[Donald H]

Like I said many times, I don't care if you listen or don't listen. My hands have been washed clean.

You can live out the rest of your days blubbering in church on your knees praying to a figment of a perverse fourth century Romans imagination with different religious beliefs and I won't care at all.

The more you try to impugn me with your scurrilous lies the more you will suffer and feel the pain of the loss of your soul.

If you don't believe me, carry on!

Ding has been able to come to terms on the bibles being illiteral bullsh-t. If he was suffering then that should be a release from his suffering!

Are you with us or not? If you're a literal believer then have the courage to say. You won't be punished for demonstrating that you've moved ahead of the rest of the flock.

 

[Donald H]

I'm not the one behaving rudely, saying hateful things and being disrespectful like a religious nutjob. So maybe take your own advice.

You must know that you're failing to deal with his flak in an effective way. I expect you've learned that much at least from me!
Change things for yourself so that you feel no anger and frustration for Hobelin. That can be his exclusively.

 

[ding]

Like I said many times, I don't care if you listen or don't listen. My hands have been washed clean.

You can live out the rest of your days blubbering in church on your knees praying to a figment of a perverse fourth century Romans imagination with different 'religious beliefs' and I won't care at all.

The more you try to impugn me with your scurrilous lies the more you will suffer and feel the pain of the loss of your eternal soul. The more you seem to proceed towards God in your unrestrained imagination in your ignoble quest to defend lies, the further you will recede from God in actuality.

If you don't believe me, carry on!

The magnitude, tone and frequency says otherwise. You are a religious nutjob on a mission.

 

[ding]

You must know that you're failing to deal with his flak in an effective way. I expect you've learned that much at least from me!
Change things for yourself so that you feel no anger and frustration for Hobelin. That can be his exclusively.

Despite your spin, I disagree. It's going exactly as expected, but what is it that you believe I have learned from you?

 

[ding]

No, before Christmas I experienced some difficulties but I worked my way through them by dealing with it in a real tangible way, without turning to superstitious god beliefs. Atheistic understanding of reality if you will?

I wish you all the best in your search for truth and happiness!

Successful behaviors naturally lead to success, just as failed behaviors naturally lead to failure. It's perfectly logical. I can see how well you are coping without superstitious god beliefs but I've chosen the better portion. I am at peace. If you were at peace you wouldn't be here arguing over superstitious god beliefs.

 

[ding]

If course my friend, Neither of us believe the 'great flood' bible bullshit. That's the biggest part of the common ground we have established.

My mission on this board, which should be yours too, is to determine if any Christian is still a literal bible believer.

Very few have the courage to say! The best they seem capable of doing is remaining silent. Are they being silenced by confusion?

I sincerely hope that you're not feeling confused or angered about being in agreement with an atheist on the question of the bible being fictional.

Your mission is to amuse yourself at the expense of others. Apparently you can't get your worth any other way. It's really quite sad. Maybe even more sad than hobelim and breezewood. Their intolerance is fueled by hatred.

 

[Donald H]

Despite your spin, I disagree. It's going exactly as expected, but what is it that you believe I have learned from you?

That which you must have learned from me is the art of finding common ground, which then leads to polite discussion at least. It doesn't have to become agreement always but it does partially.

Hobelin and you have filled 83 pages with cheap insults aimed at each other and haven't come any closer to agreement on anything.

You no longer resist my interpretation of the bibles not being the literal truth for the obvious reason that we don't disagree.

Are you ready to proclaim your belief that Genesis is not the literal truth. Whatever you believe on that question, I bet you a USD that we agree!
Is that such a bad thing?

 

[Donald H]

Successful behaviors naturally lead to success, just as failed behaviors naturally lead to failure. It's perfectly logical. I can see how well you are coping without superstitious god beliefs but I've chosen the better portion. I am at peace. If you were at peace you wouldn't be here arguing over superstitious god beliefs.

We're both here arguing over god beliefs. What's your excuse? Are you on a mission to inform non-believers.
My main reason would be to inform believers. To be more specific, my mission is to ferret out literal believers in the bibles. I think I've had a few successes so far. And I count the ones who are afraid to say as partial successes at least.

Simplied: 'Answers in Genesis' are not literal truths in the bibles, they're a different kind of truth in most cases.

That's where our agreement/disagreement begins!

Friend, I have no reason to insult you but I con't understand why you need to try to insult and abuse me.?
You stand head and shoulders over the literal believers, who appear to be mentally ill over the bogus nonsense they believe.

 

[Donald H]

Your mission is to amuse yourself at the expense of others. Apparently you can't get your worth any other way. It's really quite sad. Maybe even more sad than hobelim and breezewood. Their intolerance is fueled by hatred.

Which Christian (or Jew) have I used for amusement at their expense. Obviously not you! Or if I have then please explain? With the exception of Meri, I have had very little to say to the others. Why would I waste my time on debating that which we both know and understand is nonsense.

Like Noah's Ark or life in the big fish's belly??? Give me a break my friend!!

 

[ding]

That which you must have learned from me is the art of finding common ground, which then leads to polite discussion at least. It doesn't have to become agreement always but it does partially.

Hobelin and you have filled 83 pages with cheap insults aimed at each other and haven't come any closer to agreement on anything.

You no longer resist my interpretation of the bibles not being the literal truth for the obvious reason that we don't disagree.

Are you ready to proclaim your belief that Genesis is not the literal truth. Whatever you believe on that question, I bet you a USD that we agree!
Is that such a bad thing?

But I don't believe we have found common ground, you keep misstating what I believe. And you continued to do so even after I corrected it. So, I can only assume you do it intentionally. So we'll never have any common ground until you can actually state what I believe correctly.

 

[ding]

We're both here arguing over god beliefs. What's your excuse? Are you on a mission to inform non-believers.
My main reason would be to inform believers. To be more specific, my mission is to ferret out literal believers in the bibles. I think I've had a few successes so far. And I count the ones who are afraid to say as partial successes at least.

Simplied: 'Answers in Genesis' are not literal truths in the bibles, they're a different kind of truth in most cases.

That's where our agreement/disagreement begins!

Friend, I have no reason to insult you but I con't understand why you need to try to insult and abuse me.?
You stand head and shoulders over the literal believers, who appear to be mentally ill over the bogus nonsense they believe.

I'm here to outsmart the people who are trying to outsmart the people. Doesn't that sound like an honest answer to you?

I'm sure we could have great discussions but you'd have to set aside the games you are playing first.

 

[ding]

Which Christian (or Jew) have I used for amusement at their expense. Obviously not you! Or if I have then please explain? With the exception of Meri, I have had very little to say to the others. Why would I waste my time on debating that which we both know and understand is nonsense.

Like Noah's Ark or life in the big fish's belly??? Give me a break my friend!!

Let's not waste time arguing about it. We both know why you are here and it's exactly as I described earlier. The thing is I really don't care one way or the other because I know there is a cost you will have to pay for it. You can't see it and that's ok, but I can see it and so I am at peace.

 

[ding]

Hobelin and you have filled 83 pages with cheap insults aimed at each other and haven't come any closer to agreement on anything.

He's immature. He has no idea what he is doing. He reminds me of the poster Ft Fun Indiana. But I wouldn't expect you to see either of those views.

 

[hobelim]

Ding has been able to come to terms on the bibles being illiteral bullsh-t. If he was suffering then that should be a release from his suffering!

Apparently you don't pay attention to what ding openly says about his irrational superstitious beliefs about Jesus being God and man who defied reality with supernatural magical powers.

But you are right, if ding had the courage to admit he missed something very important, a matter of life and death, he would be released from his suffering in hell. If he had the faith to act on it.

He don't.

Are you with us or not?

No. You, like ding, are on your own pal.

If you're a literal believer then have the courage to say. You won't be punished for demonstrating that you've moved ahead of the rest of the flock.

Let me put it this way. Every single story in the Bible that contradicts reality or offends the sensibilities of a commie is like a giant X on a treasure map marking the exact place where something of great value was buried and hidden. If you look and look and keep on looking you will find it. If you don't dig deep and look and look and keep on looking you will never find it. Never.

That being said, the reader has to first decipher the metaphors, homonyms, allegories, similes, parables, hyperbole, etc, the figurative language used, to discover what the stories are literally about and what invaluable lessons are being taught which requires intelligence you seem to lack.

"The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it (Jesus H. Christ) buried it again"

I already know that ding can't , he's too busy trying to outsmart people, lol, but can you dig it?

 

[ding]

Apparently you don't pay attention to what ding openly says about his irrational superstitious beliefs about Jesus being God and man who defied reality with supernatural magical powers. But you are right, if ding had the courage to admit he missed something very important, a matter of life and death, he would be released from his suffering in hell. If he had the faith to act on it. He don't. No. You, like ding, are on your own pal. Let me put it this way. Every single story in the Bible that contradicts reality or offends the sensibilities of a commie is like a giant X on a treasure map marking the exact place where something of great value was buried and hidden. If you look and look and keep on looking you will find it. If you don't dig deep and look and look and keep on looking you will never find it. Never. That being said, the reader has to first decipher the metaphors, homonyms, allegories, similes, parables, hyperbole, etc, the figurative language used, to discover what the stories are literally about and what invaluable lessons are being taught which requires intelligence you seem to lack. "The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it (Jesus H. Christ) buried it again" I already know that ding can't , he's too busy trying to outsmart people, lol, but can you dig it?

Yes, ding espouses mainstream Christian beliefs - which you have a visceral hatred for - because you are a religious nutjob.

 

[Donald H]

I'm here to outsmart the people who are trying to outsmart the people. Doesn't that sound like an honest answer to you?

Yes, but it still means the same as what I suggested. You can't play a game of 'why are you here', when you're here too.

I'm sure we could have great discussions but you'd have to set aside the games you are playing first.

You've been begrudging me my motives for being here, from back when I was able to carry on a polite and civil discussion with Meriweather. You felf betrayed and left out.

What do you believe on the Genesis stories? Literally true or not. Don't be afraid to say on account of you suspecting that we believe the same. ]

You're going to learn that I have paid attention to your beliefs and I've learned a way from you to make such tales actually work for atheists too!

Hobelin I'll deal with later. That's going to be a chore that can take months, if I can even convince him to act like a decent person?

 

[Donald H]

He's immature. He has no idea what he is doing. He reminds me of the poster Ft Fun Indiana. But I wouldn't expect you to see either of those views.

Both of you have acted immaturely over 83 pages and nothing has been accomplished.
Pay attention to the way I've found agreement and success with you, then learn how to do it yourself.

 

[ding]

Yes, but it still means the same as what I suggested. You can't play a game of 'why are you here', when you're here too.



You've been begrudging me my motives for being here, from back when I was able to carry on a polite and civil discussion with Meriweather. You felf betrayed and left out.

What do you believe on the Genesis stories? Literally true or not. Don't be afraid to say on account of you suspecting that we believe the same. ]

You're going to learn that I have paid attention to your beliefs and I've learned a way from you to make such tales actually work for atheists too!

Hobelin I'll deal with later. That's going to be a chore that can take months, if I can even convince him to act like a decent person?

It's not even close to what you suggested and I begrudge your disingenuousness nothing more nothing less.

As for hobelim his poor behaviors work to my advantage.

 

[ding]

Both of you have acted immaturely over 83 pages and nothing has been accomplished.
Pay attention to the way I've found agreement and success with you, then learn how to do it yourself.

I disagree. Much has been accomplished. As for you, I don't care for subversives. There's nothing of value I can learn from your behaviors.