If Mexico can't eliminate the cartels, should the US military do the job ?

You know nothing about their military? Looks like they're pretty damn good.


They barely have a functioning government there. Mexico is a freaking joke, the five most dangerous cities in the world are in Mexico. the cartels are running the freaking country, they regularly kill government officials.... The entire country of Mexico is pathetic, outside of the people who are mostly good people and Mexican food, what has the country of Mexico done for the betterment of society?....nothing
 
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The US military hasn't won a single war that involved asymmetric warfare - not in Vietnam down to Afghanistan and Mali.
Therefore no nation that cares about it's own people would ever ask or allow the US military to come in and thus inflict 10'th of thousands of civilian casualties. aka a Gaza like situation in their own country.

The US military and it's mighty navy has been endlessly screwing around in the Philippines since 1945, and until today neither the Philippine military nor the US military is able to control the South-Philippine sea nor it's island and it's population in it's southern territories.

Therefore only US law enforcement units and e.g. the FBI, etc. might be able to support their Mexican counterparts in their fight against the Cartels. And once more then 100 US enforcement personal would be killed - the US will draw out it's units.

As such the US can only send tons of $$ to Mexico - taking the existing corruption into account, and let the Mexican security forces handle their own internal issue.
Control ? you idiot nobody trying to control the Philippines anymore we liberated them during world war II ,we also liberated large parts of China was under Japanese occupation we haven't lost any wars military , we lost them politically ... The Establishment love war they make a lot of money off of it....Trump doesn't start wars he takes care of business then makes deals 👍🏼
 
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Open borders means more wealth is generated inside the US, so is good for everyone.
It also means that those who we steal from south of the border, are free to "follow the money" that we take from them.

Globalism only has to prevent needless wars.
Has no down side.
All the wars the US started were wrong, expensive, and paid for by taxes on the people.
We have to stop that.
And no countries too 🙄.... Dumbass

 
Wrong.
No animal migrates due to hunting.
The only reason any animal migrates is when there are changing weather conditions that make survival difficult.
Like buffalo and birds.
The main sources of native hunting would be rabbits, deer, and elk, which do not migrate except slight changes in elevation when it snows.

And no, the big native tribes like the Mississippians survived mostly off agriculture.
They were experts in agriculture.
They created corn from little grass like seeds.

{...
The three staples of Native American food are corn, squash, and beans. Other foods that have been used widely in Native American culture include greens, Deer meat, berries, pumpkin, squash, and wild rice.
...}

The native Americans realized that corn, squash, and beans provide all 12 proteins at the same time, so make meat unnecessary. They were not big meat eaters.
Native Americans didn't have horses they were brought here by the Spanish , they didn't even have a written language .they had wars against each other they captured enslaved and raped women of other tribes ...you guys act like native Americans were perfect and the perfect lives if you want to go back to the Stone age they did
 
You've watched Sicario too many times. US military action inside a sovereign nation would rightly be interpreted as an act of war.
Its premature now, but as closing the border progresses the narco terrorists will do whatever they can to keep the border open

Whats to stop them from flying drones over the fence and blowing up a Border Patrol SUV?
 
The Mexican government ARE the Cartels. If not on paper, in reality. The Cartels say 'Shit' and their government says , "What color?"

The Cartels Own the Mexican government. And the entirety of Mexico. Nothing happens in that Country without their permission.
You could be right

If you are a mexican government official how do you prevent the gangs from executing your whole family?
 
They barely have a functioning government there. Mexico is a freaking joke, the five most dangerous cities in the world are in Mexico.
What you see in mexico today could be America in 10-20 years if we dont stamp the terrorists out now
 
If we want to eliminate the Mexican cartels, it is rather easy.

HALT THE SALE OF AUTOMATIC WEAPONS TO THE CARTELS SO THEY CAN'T OUTGUN THE MEXICAN MILITARY.

The cartels sell Americans drugs; Americans sell the cartels weapons.

No one wants to hear that inconvenient truth.
 
Control you idiot nobody trying to control the Philippines anymore liberated them during world war II we also large parts of China was under Japanese occupation we haven't lost any wars military we lost them politically ... Establishment in the new kind of love war make a lot of money off of it....Trump doesn't start wars he takes care of business then makes deals 👍🏼
Wrong.
The US tried to install the dictator Chang Kai Shek in China and was defeated.
We installed the dictator Marco in the Philippines, and was defeated eventually.
We tried to install the dictator Syngman Rhee in Korea and was defeated.
We tried to install the dictator Diem in Vietnam and was defeated.
We installed the dictator the Shah in Iran and was eventually defeated.
We installed the dictator Batista in Cuba and was defeated.
We also installed dictators in almost all countries south of the border, like Samosa in Nicaragua, and they eventually are all defeated.

But I like Trump because he started no wars last time.
 
You could be right

If you are a mexican government official how do you prevent the gangs from executing your whole family?

Its the other way around.
It is the government that murders, kidnaps, and extorts.
The cartels are the good guys.
 
What you see in mexico today could be America in 10-20 years if we dont stamp the terrorists out now

Cartels can't possibly be "terrorists" because they only do what they should be able to do, conduct business.
The terrorists are the US puppets that imprison and kill millions.
 
If we want to eliminate the Mexican cartels, it is rather easy.

HALT THE SALE OF AUTOMATIC WEAPONS TO THE CARTELS SO THEY CAN'T OUTGUN THE MEXICAN MILITARY.

The cartels sell Americans drugs; Americans sell the cartels weapons.

No one wants to hear that inconvenient truth.

Wrong.
No one in the US can risk selling cartels any weapons.
And they do not need or use weapons to smuggle drugs into the US on ships, planes, and trucks.
 
Wrong.
No one in the US can risk selling cartels any weapons.
And they do not need or use weapons to smuggle drugs into the US on ships, planes, and trucks.
You are dead wrong.

The US gun industry has profited greatly from the cartels. Approximately 80,000 US made weapons have found their way to the cartels.

If the US military goes into Mexico, they will be met with US weapons that we have sold to the cartels.


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If we want to eliminate the Mexican cartels, it is rather easy.

HALT THE SALE OF AUTOMATIC WEAPONS TO THE CARTELS SO THEY CAN'T OUTGUN THE MEXICAN MILITARY.

The cartels sell Americans drugs; Americans sell the cartels weapons.

No one wants to hear that inconvenient truth.
That all part of being illegal Americans don't sell guns legally to the cartels you break up the entire thing 👍🏼
 
Wrong.
The US tried to install the dictator Chang Kai Shek in China and was defeated.
We installed the dictator Marco in the Philippines, and was defeated eventually.
We tried to install the dictator Syngman Rhee in Korea and was defeated.
We tried to install the dictator Diem in Vietnam and was defeated.
We installed the dictator the Shah in Iran and was eventually defeated.
We installed the dictator Batista in Cuba and was defeated.
We also installed dictators in almost all countries south of the border, like Samosa in Nicaragua, and they eventually are all defeated.

But I like Trump because he started no wars last time.
Trump doesn't start wars.... And the people of Iran wish the hell they had the shaw back .... United States military has never been defeated in war even in Vietnam we won every battle.... Politicians play too many freaking games
 
Native Americans didn't have horses they were brought here by the Spanish , they didn't even have a written language .they had wars against each other they captured enslaved and raped women of other tribes ...you guys act like native Americans were perfect and the perfect lives if you want to go back to the Stone age they did
He isn't just talking about those nomadic Plains-Injuins - who where are an absolute minority compared to those Injuins - who ran agriculture and plantations. And therefore lived in organized Settlements with up to 10,000 people and more. Eradicated by the Brits, French, Colonialists and later by Americans. Or forcefully displaced e.g. the Seminoles (permanent settlers and farmers) from e.g. rich and vegetative Florida to shitty and arid Oklahoma.

And I don't see anyone here claiming that they were perfect.
 
Wrong.
First of all, hunter/gatherers do no migrate normally, and live in permanent dwellings, even if they have separate ones for summer and winter.
The Plaines Indians were migratory because they had been pushed off their original permanent land.

Without currency or agriculture, there is zero incentive for war.

Does not matter if the Bible is a fairy tale or not, because the Israelis still believe it is right to invade and massacre the natives.
How do you even remember to breathe? You are the single most appallingly ignorant and opinionated person I have ever been exposed to and I have been around some real doozies in my life.
 
Um, yeah, because going into other countries worked out so well for us in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam...

Here's how we end the fentanyl epidemic. We actually invest in drug rehab treatment.
The USA has the most drug rehab treatements on Earth. How can you rehab from the dangerous drug Fentanyl?

It reminds me of drug treatment programs for deadly cyanide.
 
Wrong.
First of all, hunter/gatherers do no migrate normally, and live in permanent dwellings, even if they have separate ones for summer and winter.
The Plaines Indians were migratory because they had been pushed off their original permanent land.

Without currency or agriculture, there is zero incentive for war.

Does not matter if the Bible is a fairy tale or not, because the Israelis still believe it is right to invade and massacre the natives.
The Plains Indians were migratory because they followed the herds of Buffalo which were migratory. My Great-grandmother was a full blooded Comanche and she told me their oral history going back far before the white man came along. And hunter-gatherers were migratory as well, they followed the game to keep from hunting out one particular area. Permanent residence didn't happen until agriculture came along as fields and crops needed to be tended to year-round.
 

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