BULLDOG
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jc, frank, no public circle jerks, please. We already know you're both cult cowards who constantly lie about the science and run for the hills. No need to confirm that point yet another time. You will always be my little bitches, and everyone will always laugh at you because of that.
Now, back to westwall, who will at least try science. And then fail badly at it, but at least he tries.
Westwall said:Can you not read?
I'm being thorough. Given your slippery nature, it's important to pin you down to a position at the start.
I said the "THEORY" is that IR is absorbed by the atmosphere and re radiated to the ground.
You mean those documented measurements that anyone with the right instrument can do at any time. If that's a theory, then sunlight is also a theory.
The whole planet knows that the ground does not retain heat. Go to the desert at night and you can experience how fast the dirt loses heat. The whole world likewise KNOWS that the sunlight enters the oceans, the UV radiation penetrates up to 1000 meters in extraordinary conditions, but normally to a depth of 200 meters and THAT is the mechanism of ocean warming. This is KNOWN. It is not OPINION, it is not CONSENSUS....it is a FACT!
Sort of. UV is a tiny portion of sunlight. Visible light has most of the energy. 90% of the energy in sunlight is absorbed in the first 10 meters of the oceans. That's the first part of the mechanism of ocean warming.
It is also a "fact" that the supposed architect of AGW is long wave radiation. The problem with that is the simple well known fact that IR can only penetrate microns deep into water. Thus the entire mechanism or AGW collapses under simple, well known facts.
And ... you blow it. You fail to explain how "doesn't penetrate deeply" leads to "can't warm the ocean". You just waved your hands around and declared it must be so.
Now, back in sensible-land, the IR is absorbed by the ocean. Therefore, it heats the ocean. Period. The energy doesn't vanish. It heats the ocean, then the ocean heats the air. The theory is fine. Your rather peculiar interpretation of the theory, alas, has some issues.
Blah blah blahblah
and still no lab work
Perhaps if you presented the lab work that you have done, and the documentation, it would lend you a little credibility, and you wouldn't sound so much like an idiot trying to horn in on a conversation that you are clearly not qualified to interrupt.