I'm pretty sure Putin is right this time.

[rdean]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/w...putin-clash-at-un-over-syria-crisis.html?_r=0

For the Kremlin, it means restoring enough stability to Syria to win acceptance of an expanded role for Russia in the Middle East — not to speak of its expanded military presence. Such a development, in the Kremlin’s view, would also validate Mr. Putin’s contention that toppling authoritarian governments in the Middle East has led only to chaos and sanctuaries for terrorists.

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He's right. Look at what his soul mate, Bush did in Iraq.

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For the White House, this has meant accepting a Russian role in the region but hoping that Moscow will appreciate the risk of becoming bogged down. That, they hope, will raise the costs of backing Mr. Assad and force Russia to work sincerely on a political transition that will lead to the Syrian leader’s departure.

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So what? Let Russia become bogged down. Better them than us. Besides, with other countries developing their oil and energy resources, it's not like Middle East oil is the only game in town.

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Mr. Putin, who was making his first appearance at the United NationsGeneral Assembly in 10 years, was openly dismissive of the United States’ interventions in the Middle East. The United States-led effort to oust Saddam Hussein in Iraq and Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi in Libya, he said, had made each country a haven for terrorists.

And the Obama administration’s attempts to train and equip a moderate Syrian opposition would end up swelling the ranks of Islamic radicals, Mr. Putin insisted. The Kremlin says about 2,000 of the extremists who have joined the Islamic State have come from Russia, fueling concern that they may return and carry out terrorist attacks. Russia has fought two wars against Islamist separatists in Chechnya.

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What can you say? The Middle East is a mess. Let Russia spend their money. They are right next door. They have a vested interest in stopping the violence. Better it's stopped anyway possible than continue with what's going on now.

 

[gipper]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/w...putin-clash-at-un-over-syria-crisis.html?_r=0

For the Kremlin, it means restoring enough stability to Syria to win acceptance of an expanded role for Russia in the Middle East — not to speak of its expanded military presence. Such a development, in the Kremlin’s view, would also validate Mr. Putin’s contention that toppling authoritarian governments in the Middle East has led only to chaos and sanctuaries for terrorists.

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He's right. Look at what his soul mate, Bush did in Iraq.

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For the White House, this has meant accepting a Russian role in the region but hoping that Moscow will appreciate the risk of becoming bogged down. That, they hope, will raise the costs of backing Mr. Assad and force Russia to work sincerely on a political transition that will lead to the Syrian leader’s departure.

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So what? Let Russia become bogged down. Better them than us. Besides, with other countries developing their oil and energy resources, it's not like Middle East oil is the only game in town.

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Mr. Putin, who was making his first appearance at the United NationsGeneral Assembly in 10 years, was openly dismissive of the United States’ interventions in the Middle East. The United States-led effort to oust Saddam Hussein in Iraq and Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi in Libya, he said, had made each country a haven for terrorists.

And the Obama administration’s attempts to train and equip a moderate Syrian opposition would end up swelling the ranks of Islamic radicals, Mr. Putin insisted. The Kremlin says about 2,000 of the extremists who have joined the Islamic State have come from Russia, fueling concern that they may return and carry out terrorist attacks. Russia has fought two wars against Islamist separatists in Chechnya.

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What can you say? The Middle East is a mess. Let Russia spend their money. They are right next door. They have a vested interest in stopping the violence. Better it's stopped anyway possible than continue with what's going on now.

Funny...you forgot to mention Jimma. Why?

 

[rightwinger]

I love it

Let Russia go into Syria to shore up their buddy Assad
Let Russia leave troops to defend him and put up with attacks from ISIS
Let Russia watch as ISIS beheads a captured Russian soldier

Better than having the US do it

 

[bedowin62]

RUH-ROH; better tell the other leftardz on these boards that it isnt right-wingers kissing Putin's ass!

lmao!

 

[rdean]

RUH-ROH; better tell the other leftardz on these boards that it isnt right-wingers kissing Putin's ass!

lmao!

Yea it is.

 

[rightwinger]

Putin is about to find out what a quagmire the Middle East is today

Let him see how effective force alone can be

 

[Katzndogz]

Russia will not be in any quagmire. Assad will put an end to Isis in Syria.

 

[rightwinger]

Russia will not be in any quagmire. Assad will put an end to Isis in Syria.

How?

ISIS will retreat into the shadows and pick off Russians one at a time. Terrorists will still be terrorists

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Russia will not be in any quagmire. Assad will put an end to Isis in Syria.

How?

ISIS will retreat into the shadows and pick off Russians one at a time. Terrorists will still be terrorists

Nope, Russia will be around for a long time in the region.

 

[Camp]

Russia will not be in any quagmire. Assad will put an end to Isis in Syria.

How?

ISIS will retreat into the shadows and pick off Russians one at a time. Terrorists will still be terrorists

Nope, Russia will be around for a long time in the region.

Russia will have to send a lot more men and equipment than they have to date. So far they are only providing enough to protect a relatively small area. The government in Moscow is already complaining. The mess in Ukraine has not been cleaned up, there is a large Muslim population in Russia that could provide terrorist to the ISIS cause and bring suffering to the motherland, the economy is in shambles, they had to pass a law just a few weeks ago that allows the military to hide casualty numbers and the leader is making boast and promises he may not be able to back up. The Russian forces will be dependent on Iranian troops to accomplish what Putin is promising. Russia can not accomplish this goal on it's own with a combat brigade and a few thousand support units and air squadrons.

 

[gipper]

I love it

Let Russia go into Syria to shore up their buddy Assad
Let Russia leave troops to defend him and put up with attacks from ISIS
Let Russia watch as ISIS beheads a captured Russian soldier

Better than having the US do it

Then Obama will come out against the Russian intervention and you will dutifully tow the party line.

 

[rdean]

Russia will not be in any quagmire. Assad will put an end to Isis in Syria.

How?

ISIS will retreat into the shadows and pick off Russians one at a time. Terrorists will still be terrorists

Nope, Russia will be around for a long time in the region.

Russia will have to send a lot more men and equipment than they have to date. So far they are only providing enough to protect a relatively small area. The government in Moscow is already complaining. The mess in Ukraine has not been cleaned up, there is a large Muslim population in Russia that could provide terrorist to the ISIS cause and bring suffering to the motherland, the economy is in shambles, they had to pass a law just a few weeks ago that allows the military to hide casualty numbers and the leader is making boast and promises he may not be able to back up. The Russian forces will be dependent on Iranian troops to accomplish what Putin is promising. Russia can not accomplish this goal on it's own with a combat brigade and a few thousand support units and air squadrons.

That about sums it up.

 

[rdean]

I love it

Let Russia go into Syria to shore up their buddy Assad
Let Russia leave troops to defend him and put up with attacks from ISIS
Let Russia watch as ISIS beheads a captured Russian soldier

Better than having the US do it

Then Obama will come out against the Russian intervention and you will dutifully tow the party line.

What does it feel like not knowing what you are talking about? There is no real party line among Democrats. We are not 90% white like Republicans.

 

[paulitician]

It's pretty obvious the West, especially the U.S., wanted Assad dead. Therefore it funded and armed various rebel groups in Syria. That funding & arming led to the creation of ISIS.

So the West and especially the U.S., are responsible for the awful carnage in Syria. Russia and Iran are just cleaning up our Government's terrible mess over there.

 

[Camp]

It's pretty obvious the West, especially the U.S., wanted Assad dead. Therefore it funded and armed various rebel groups in Syria. That funding & arming led to the creation of ISIS.

So the West and especially the U.S., are responsible for the awful carnage in Syria. Russia and Iran are just cleaning up our Government's terrible mess over there.

Now if you only had some evidence to back up your nonsense conspiracy theory that America is the monster theory unless and until it is willing to adopt your ideology, everything would be perfect for you.

 

[B. Kidd]

Putin is about to find out what a quagmire the Middle East is today

Let him see how effective force alone can be

He's not committing ground troops to take on ISIS. He will usher Assad out when the time comes and protect Assads' gold laugh all in one felt swoop.

 

[hjmick]

Vlad Putin: Deanie's new hero...


Go figger...

 

[rdean]

Vlad Putin: Deanie's new hero...


Go figger...

My hero? He already belongs to the GOP. I don't do sloppy seconds.

 

[paulitician]

It's pretty obvious the West, especially the U.S., wanted Assad dead. Therefore it funded and armed various rebel groups in Syria. That funding & arming led to the creation of ISIS.

So the West and especially the U.S., are responsible for the awful carnage in Syria. Russia and Iran are just cleaning up our Government's terrible mess over there.

Now if you only had some evidence to back up your nonsense conspiracy theory that America is the monster theory unless and until it is willing to adopt your ideology, everything would be perfect for you.

Who wanted Assad dead? ISIS didn't just magically appear with all that money & weapons. Just follow the money. That's where you'll find all the answers.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Russia will not be in any quagmire. Assad will put an end to Isis in Syria.

How?

ISIS will retreat into the shadows and pick off Russians one at a time. Terrorists will still be terrorists

Nope, Russia will be around for a long time in the region.

Russia will have to send a lot more men and equipment than they have to date. So far they are only providing enough to protect a relatively small area. The government in Moscow is already complaining. The mess in Ukraine has not been cleaned up, there is a large Muslim population in Russia that could provide terrorist to the ISIS cause and bring suffering to the motherland, the economy is in shambles, they had to pass a law just a few weeks ago that allows the military to hide casualty numbers and the leader is making boast and promises he may not be able to back up. The Russian forces will be dependent on Iranian troops to accomplish what Putin is promising. Russia can not accomplish this goal on it's own with a combat brigade and a few thousand support units and air squadrons.

They can accomplish their objective without iranian support. They're doing it in ukraine.