"immunity from compelled congressional process simply does not exist.”

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Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must appear before Congress for testimony, judge says

The judge rules Trump's absurd assertion of blanket immunity, a claim never before made by any prez because...........ridiculous...........is total bullshyte.

Clearly, the ruling has implications for the impeachment inquiry.

The mind boggling aspect of the ruling is................Billy the Bagman is contesting it. The guy who is supposed to be the people's lawyer is working in Trump's interest, not the country's. Imagine my surprise.
 
“It is clear to this Court,” Jackson said of the ruling in Washington, D.C., federal court, “that, with respect to senior-level presidential aides, absolute immunity from compelled congressional process simply does not exist.”

Which is what I've been saying.
 
Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must appear before Congress for testimony, judge says

The judge rules Trump's absurd assertion of blanket immunity, a claim never before made by any prez because...........ridiculous...........is total bullshyte.

Clearly, the ruling has implications for the impeachment inquiry.

The mind boggling aspect of the ruling is................Billy the Bagman is contesting it. The guy who is supposed to be the people's lawyer is working in Trump's interest, not the country's. Imagine my surprise.


Claims one judge, it could be reversed.

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Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must appear before Congress for testimony, judge says

The judge rules Trump's absurd assertion of blanket immunity, a claim never before made by any prez because...........ridiculous...........is total bullshyte.

Clearly, the ruling has implications for the impeachment inquiry.

The mind boggling aspect of the ruling is................Billy the Bagman is contesting it. The guy who is supposed to be the people's lawyer is working in Trump's interest, not the country's. Imagine my surprise.


Claims one judge, it could be reversed.

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And pigs might fly one day, but I wouldn\t bet money it happening.

Trump has lost ALL of these cases. They're just stalling.
 
Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must appear before Congress for testimony, judge says

The judge rules Trump's absurd assertion of blanket immunity, a claim never before made by any prez because...........ridiculous...........is total bullshyte.

Clearly, the ruling has implications for the impeachment inquiry.

The mind boggling aspect of the ruling is................Billy the Bagman is contesting it. The guy who is supposed to be the people's lawyer is working in Trump's interest, not the country's. Imagine my surprise.
If House Liar / Leaker Schiff can declare a non-qualifying whistle blower is afforded the protections of anonymity & immunity found in no existing law ... If Nadler can punish / Censure the US AG, the leading law enforcer in the United States, for NOT breaking US laws HE helped Congress pass...if Dr.ocrats can conduct coup attempt after contempt disguised as investigations during which Constitutional Rights are trampled, the WH and individuals called to testify in front of the 'circus' and its 'ring master' can tell Schiff & the Democrats to 'F* Off'...if by no other way than pleading the 5th immediately & not saying another word.
 
Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must appear before Congress for testimony, judge says

The judge rules Trump's absurd assertion of blanket immunity, a claim never before made by any prez because...........ridiculous...........is total bullshyte.

Clearly, the ruling has implications for the impeachment inquiry.

The mind boggling aspect of the ruling is................Billy the Bagman is contesting it. The guy who is supposed to be the people's lawyer is working in Trump's interest, not the country's. Imagine my surprise.
If House Liar / Leaker Schiff can declare a non-qualifying whistle blower is afforded the protections of anonymity & immunity found in no existing law ... If Nadler can punish / Censure the US AG, the leading law enforcer in the United States, for NOT breaking US laws HE helped Congress pass...if Dr.ocrats can conduct coup attempt after contempt disguised as investigations during which Constitutional Rights are trampled, the WH and individuals called to testify in front of the 'circus' and its 'ring master' can tell Schiff & the Democrats to 'F* Off'...if by no other way than pleading the 5th immediately & not saying another word.

Well somebody has his knickers in a knot doesn't he?

Trump has lost every one of his stonewalling attempt lawsuits for one very good reason: The Constitution mandates that Congress has a responsibility to conduct investgation and oversight of the Executive Branch. In investigating the President, Congress is simply doing its job. Trump's resistance to oversight is illegal and consititutes an impeachable offence, all on its own.

Trump has never had to answer to anyone for his stupid and wrong headed decisions. He has never had a boss, or even a real board of directors to answer to. He has only every worked as the head of a family owner corporation. Trump refuses to take advice or counsel. That's why his businesses have so frequently failed or gone bankrupt.
 
Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must appear before Congress for testimony, judge says

The judge rules Trump's absurd assertion of blanket immunity, a claim never before made by any prez because...........ridiculous...........is total bullshyte.

Clearly, the ruling has implications for the impeachment inquiry.

The mind boggling aspect of the ruling is................Billy the Bagman is contesting it. The guy who is supposed to be the people's lawyer is working in Trump's interest, not the country's. Imagine my surprise.
If House Liar / Leaker Schiff can declare a non-qualifying whistle blower is afforded the protections of anonymity & immunity found in no existing law ... If Nadler can punish / Censure the US AG, the leading law enforcer in the United States, for NOT breaking US laws HE helped Congress pass...if Dr.ocrats can conduct coup attempt after contempt disguised as investigations during which Constitutional Rights are trampled, the WH and individuals called to testify in front of the 'circus' and its 'ring master' can tell Schiff & the Democrats to 'F* Off'...if by no other way than pleading the 5th immediately & not saying another word.

Well somebody has his knickers in a knot doesn't he?

Trump has lost every one of his stonewalling attempt lawsuits for one very good reason: The Constitution mandates that Congress has a responsibility to conduct investgation and oversight of the Executive Branch. In investigating the President, Congress is simply doing its job. Trump's resistance to oversight is illegal and consititutes an impeachable offence, all on its own.

Trump has never had to answer to anyone for his stupid and wrong headed decisions. He has never had a boss, or even a real board of directors to answer to. He has only every worked as the head of a family owner corporation. Trump refuses to take advice or counsel. That's why his businesses have so frequently failed or gone bankrupt.
Thank you for that emotionally triggered attack on the President and the attempt to justify the conspiracy, sedition, and treason perpetrated by liars, admitted Leakers, and compromised Criminal Dr.ocrats.

Again, my point remains unscathed - after 4 years of back to back to back failed coup attempts the best Democrats could do in their latest attempt was present 3 says of hearsay, disagreement with foreign policy, and hold over 2016 butthurt.

:p
 
The baby killing Democrats should never been allowed control of the House or Representatives. Now, we're paying the price.
 
I - and 430 Lawyer / House Reps - am still waiting for the liar to post the law she and Schiff insists exists that affords non-qualifying whistle blowers anonymity & immunity....or admit they are both liars.

No such law exists.

Since the Whistle Blower is both a 'parody' and Schiff himself, he is trying to get immunity for himself before it is finally confirmed he is the 'whistle blower' who has nothing but hearsay.
 
The baby killing Democrats should never been allowed control of the House or Representatives. Now, we're paying the price.

President Trump should never have been elected by the Electoral College as he is a criminal and unfit to hold the office. Now we're paying the price.

The judge who delivered a 120 page decision ordering Don McGahn to testify, exoriated the Justice Department for participating in this brief, calling it an "attack on the Constitution" which assumes powers for the executive office which are in no way found in the Constitution.

The judge made it crystal clear that refusal to provide the documents requested or the witnesses Congress needs to carry out this oversight, is an insult to the people.

You Russians are in way over your heads on this Constitutional stuff.
 
The baby killing Democrats should never been allowed control of the House or Representatives. Now, we're paying the price.

President Trump should never have been elected by the Electoral College as he is a criminal and unfit to hold the office. Now we're paying the price.

The judge who delivered a 120 page decision ordering Don McGahn to testify, exoriated the Justice Department for participating in this brief, calling it an "attack on the Constitution" which assumes powers for the executive office which are in no way found in the Constitution.

The judge made it crystal clear that refusal to provide the documents requested or the witnesses Congress needs to carry out this oversight, is an insult to the people.

You Russians are in way over your heads on this Constitutional stuff.
You are a baby killer, by the way, and so long as you are your words mean nothing in a conversation among civilized people.
 
Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must appear before Congress for testimony, judge says

The judge rules Trump's absurd assertion of blanket immunity, a claim never before made by any prez because...........ridiculous...........is total bullshyte.

Clearly, the ruling has implications for the impeachment inquiry.

The mind boggling aspect of the ruling is................Billy the Bagman is contesting it. The guy who is supposed to be the people's lawyer is working in Trump's interest, not the country's. Imagine my surprise.


Claims one judge, it could be reversed.

.

And pigs might fly one day, but I wouldn\t bet money it happening.

Trump has lost ALL of these cases. They're just stalling.


Honestly, I could argue both sides, if McGahn is eventually forced to comply and show up, there's nothing that would prevent him from exerting executive privilege and not answering questions. Executive privilege is recognized by the courts. Without it, the executive branch wouldn't be a co-equal branch, they would be subservient to the congress. No way in hell the founders intended that.

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Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must appear before Congress for testimony, judge says

The judge rules Trump's absurd assertion of blanket immunity, a claim never before made by any prez because...........ridiculous...........is total bullshyte.

Clearly, the ruling has implications for the impeachment inquiry.

The mind boggling aspect of the ruling is................Billy the Bagman is contesting it. The guy who is supposed to be the people's lawyer is working in Trump's interest, not the country's. Imagine my surprise.


Claims one judge, it could be reversed.

.
The thing is, there is no legal standing on which to reverse the judge's ruling. This wasn't a matter of a narrow victory for House Dems with the judge ruling "absolute immunity" doesn't not apply in this instance. The ruling plainly states there is no such thing as absolute immunity.

Donald McGahn Must Testify to Congress, Judge Rules; Administration Will Appeal
A judge rejected the Trump administration’s argument that senior White House officials were immune from congressional subpoenas.

"The Justice Department, which is representing Mr. McGahn in the lawsuit, will appeal, a spokeswoman said. Still, the ruling by Judge Jackson, who was appointed by President Barack Obama, could have broader consequences for the investigation into the Ukraine affair.

In rejecting the Trump administration’s sweeping claim that top presidential advisers, as Mr. McGahn was, are absolutely immune from being compelled to talk about their official duties — meaning they do not even have to show up — the judge said the same is true even for those who worked on national security issues.

Judge Jackson’s ruling also came on the same day that another federal judge in Washington held out the possibility that more documents about the Ukraine affair could yet see the light of day, ruling that emails between the White House and the Pentagon about the freezing of military aid to Ukraine should be released under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit."
Donald McGahn Must Testify to Congress, Judge Rules; Administration Will Appeal

Duplicitous Don and Billy the Bagman are losing case after case because the arguments they are making are ludicrous. Not even a SC packed with radical right wing ideologues will save them unless hacks like Gorsuch and Schlitz Kavanaugh are willing to turn their backs on the Constitution.
 
the question:

Is the President of the USA a King and above all laws, and we are all his subjects?

Or

Is the President, the leader of the USA, who is hired/chosen by we the people/electoral process and works for us and is paid by us, to execute the laws derived by us, through our representation in Congress, and to lead the military as commander?

The President is arguing that it is the first scenario, and we the people, are arguing it is the latter!


HANDS DOWN

Constitutionally
IT IS the latter.
 
Ex-White House counsel Don McGahn must appear before Congress for testimony, judge says

The judge rules Trump's absurd assertion of blanket immunity, a claim never before made by any prez because...........ridiculous...........is total bullshyte.

Clearly, the ruling has implications for the impeachment inquiry.

The mind boggling aspect of the ruling is................Billy the Bagman is contesting it. The guy who is supposed to be the people's lawyer is working in Trump's interest, not the country's. Imagine my surprise.


Claims one judge, it could be reversed.

.
The thing is, there is no legal standing on which to reverse the judge's ruling. This wasn't a matter of a narrow victory for House Dems with the judge ruling "absolute immunity" doesn't not apply in this instance. The ruling plainly states there is no such thing as absolute immunity.

Donald McGahn Must Testify to Congress, Judge Rules; Administration Will Appeal
A judge rejected the Trump administration’s argument that senior White House officials were immune from congressional subpoenas.

"The Justice Department, which is representing Mr. McGahn in the lawsuit, will appeal, a spokeswoman said. Still, the ruling by Judge Jackson, who was appointed by President Barack Obama, could have broader consequences for the investigation into the Ukraine affair.

In rejecting the Trump administration’s sweeping claim that top presidential advisers, as Mr. McGahn was, are absolutely immune from being compelled to talk about their official duties — meaning they do not even have to show up — the judge said the same is true even for those who worked on national security issues.

Judge Jackson’s ruling also came on the same day that another federal judge in Washington held out the possibility that more documents about the Ukraine affair could yet see the light of day, ruling that emails between the White House and the Pentagon about the freezing of military aid to Ukraine should be released under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit."
Donald McGahn Must Testify to Congress, Judge Rules; Administration Will Appeal

Duplicitous Don and Billy the Bagman are losing case after case because the arguments they are making are ludicrous. Not even a SC packed with radical right wing ideologues will save them unless hacks like Gorsuch and Schlitz Kavanaugh are willing to turn their backs on the Constitution.


Sorry child, your headline is an absolute lie, the judge said they must present themselves to congress, the judge made no determination on claims of executive privilege. So like I said they can show up and claim executive privilege, then it would be up to congress to litigate each claim, if they say privilege doesn't apply to that particular question.

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If House Liar / Leaker Schiff can declare a non-qualifying whistle blower is afforded the protections of anonymity & immunity found in no existing law
Where do you folks get the crap you spew?Whistleblower Protection Act - Wikipedia
Thank you for RE-posting the Whistle Blower Act, which I posted earlier. For those too lazy to open up the link and read it for yourselves:

"The Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989, 5 U.S.C. 2302(b)(8)-(9), Pub.L. 101-12 as amended, is a United States federal law that protects federal whistleblowers who work for the government and report the possible existence of an activity constituting a violation of law, rules, or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority or a substantial and specific danger to public health and safety. A federal agency violates the Whistleblower Protection Act if agency authorities take (or threaten to take) retaliatory personnel action against any employee or applicant because of disclosure of information by that employee or applicant.[1]"

Now, snowflake, please point out where the law states that whistle blowers are afforded anonymity and immunity from prosecution for committing crimes! According to D-Schiff, a proven LIAR, anonymity and immunity are afforded to a QUALIFYING Whistle Blower, which his so-called 'whistle blower' is NOT. Even if they did, anonymity and immunity are NOT afforded to them, ONLY protection from RETALIATION.

WHERE do we get this 'stuff'? Straight out of the Laws themselves, snowflake - not from the lips of liars like Adam Schiff!

 
If House Liar / Leaker Schiff can declare a non-qualifying whistle blower is afforded the protections of anonymity & immunity found in no existing law
Where do you folks get the crap you spew?

Whistleblower Protection Act - Wikipedia


The FACT is the ICIG had no jurisdiction to accept or act on the complaint. Why you ask, the ICIG can only accept complaints that fall within the authority and responsibility of the DNI (Director of National Intelligence for you morons). The DNI has neither the responsibility for or authority over presidential diplomatic phone calls. In fact the Office of the President isn't included in any wistleblower laws.

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