In 2019 we had fewer mass public shootings than in 2018...but....but how is that possible?

[2aguy]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

 

[hadit]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You weren't supposed to notice that.

 

[August West]

Concealed carry nuts have shot and killed 579 people since 2007. 21 of the shootings were in self defense. They`ve also killed 17 cops. A license to kill. How cool is that?
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

 

[2aguy]

Concealed carry nuts have shot and killed 579 people since 2007. 21 of the shootings were in self defense. They`ve also killed 17 cops. A license to kill. How cool is that?
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

The Violence Policy Center is a crank outfit.....they lie...

There are now over 18.6 million people in the United States who can can legally carry a gun with a permit...more if you count those states that do not require a permit.....you don't know what you are talking about...

Gun murder is down 49% since the 1990s...how do you explain that?

Gun crime is down 75% since the 1990s...how do you explain that?

Actual research shows that people with concealed carry permits are more law abiding than the average American and more law abiding than sworn police officers...how do you explain that?

Now....the Violence Policy Center......

New York Times Concealed Handgun Crime Numbers Are Bogus | National Review

Apparently, no effort was made to check if any of these media-derived cases were already accounted for in the state police reports.

A case will be counted four times if it is covered in a news story and is pending for at least part of three different calendar years before culminating in a verdict of not guilty. Over the roughly ten-year period, Michigan had 14 convictions of homicides by permit holders, not 72. And the state police don’t record how the homicide was committed. That comes to 1.4 cases per year, with about 560,000 permit holders in June last year.

Michigan doesn’t collect information on how or where suicides are committed, just that permit holders commit suicide. The Violence Policy Center simply assumes that all these suicides were committed with permitted concealed handguns outside the permit holders’ homes when they are carrying concealed. But the vast majority of suicides are committed at home. As to causation, permit holders committed suicide at just 38 percent of the rate of the adult Michigan population.

Concealed-handgun permit holders are also much more law-abiding than the rest of the population. In fact, they are convicted at an even lower rate than police officers. According to a study in Police Quarterly, from 2005 to 2007, police committed 703 crimes annually on average. Of those, there were 113 firearms violations on average. This is likely to be an underestimate, since not all police crimes receive media coverage.

 

[2aguy]

Concealed carry nuts have shot and killed 579 people since 2007. 21 of the shootings were in self defense. They`ve also killed 17 cops. A license to kill. How cool is that?
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

More on the Violence Policy Center lying....

Violence Policy Center keeps using using Justifiable Homicide data to make false claims about defensive gun use - Crime Prevention Research Center

The comparison of justifiable homicide numbers to murders with guns is a very old claim. Of course, why anyone puts weight on a Violence Policy Center study is a mystery (for their errors on other issues see here, here, here, here, here, here, and here). The problems with the current claims are as follows.

1) The data on justifiable homicides is useless. The definition used by the FBI is very limited. From the UCR Handbook (pp. 17-18):
NOTE: Justifiable homicide, by definition, occurs in conjunction with other offenses. Therefore, the crime being committed when the justifiable homicide took place must be reported as a separate offense. Reporting agencies should take care to ensure that they do not classify a killing as justifiable or excusable solely on the claims of self-defense or on the action of a coroner, prosecutor, grand jury, or court.

The following scenario illustrates an incident known to law enforcement that reporting agencies would not consider Justifiable Homicide:

17. While playing cards, two men got into an argument. The first man attacked the second with a broken bottle. The second man pulled a gun and killed his attacker. The police arrested the shooter; he claimed self-defense.

But this narrow definition is combined with the fact that most jurisdictions don’t report these numbers and even the ones that do so are missing lots of cases. It is very bad for police (only about 1 percent of police departments report justifiable homicides by police and see also here) and the numbers are even worse for civilian justifiable homicides. Even the places that report this data don’t really have any incentive to get the numbers correct. For example, see this investigative study for Michigan.
Officially, there were 117 justifiable homicides involving civilians in Michigan from 2000 to 2010. Another 95 were killed by police, according to the statistics.
One reason those numbers are low is simple, MLive’s investigation found.

Police are reporting the cases as criminal homicides. When it’s later determined to be justifiable, they don’t change the easy-to-recode electronic records. It’s as simple as changing a “1” to a “4.”

That was the case in Kalamazoo County, where FBI statistics show only one justifiable homicide between 2000 and 2010. There were eight, three by civilians and five by police, MLive found.

“It’s all a data-input problem,” Kalamazoo Public Safety Chief Jeff Hadley said. “What happens is when the initial reports are generated, it’s coded as a homicide. It never gets recoded.” . . .

Also, while more than half the states report a justifiable homicide number, that hides the fact that very few jurisdictions within those states that report the number actually compiled the numbers.

 

[DrLove]

Mother Jones is fake news

How is it possible you ask? Anything is possible. This year might be a new record.

Hey 2a - What is the NRA paying you for all these posts?

 

[2aguy]

Concealed carry nuts have shot and killed 579 people since 2007. 21 of the shootings were in self defense. They`ve also killed 17 cops. A license to kill. How cool is that?
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

The Violence Policy Center....what crap....

As to law abiding concealed carry permit holders....

New York Times Concealed Handgun Crime Numbers Are Bogus | National Review

This is likely to be an underestimate, since not all police crimes receive media coverage.

Concealed-handgun permit holders are much more law-abiding than the rest of the population.

With 683,396 full-time law-enforcement employees nationwide in 2006, we can infer that there were about 102 crimes by police per 100,000 officers. Among the U.S. population as a whole, the crime rate was 37 times higher than the police crime rate over those years — 3,813 per 100,000 people.

Now let’s look at permit holders. Between October 1, 1987, and January 31, 2015, Florida revoked 9,366 concealed-handgun permits for misdemeanor or felony offenses. This is an annual rate of 12.5 crimes per 100,000 permit holders — a mere eighth of the crime rate among officers. In Texas, 108 permit holders were convicted of misdemeanors or felonies in 2015 — the last year for which data are available. This is a rate of 10.8 per 100,000, scarcely more than a tenth of the rate for police.

Among police, firearms violations occur at a rate of 6.9 per 100,000 officers. For Florida permit holders, the rate is only 0.31 per 100,000. Most of these violations were trivial offenses, such as forgetting one’s permit. The data are similar in other states.

 

[Synthaholic]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You’re a fucking liar.
U.S. mass killings hit new high in 2019; most were shootings
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-30/us-mass-killings-shootings-2019

 

[Crepitus]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

Dude.

2?

 

[2aguy]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You’re a fucking liar.
U.S. mass killings hit new high in 2019; most were shootings
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-30/us-mass-killings-shootings-2019

No...you shitstain....the LAtimes is lying......they are lying when they say "mass killings," knowing that morons like you fill in "Mass public Shootings," because you are so gullible. Mass Public Shootings are not the same crime as gang bangers spraying a rival gang at a block party you mope.....they know this, and they do it because the fact is there were only 10 mass public shootings in 2019....hard to demand gun control in a country of over 320 million people when 73 people are killed in mass public shootings in 2019, and 345 people are killed in bicycle accidents in 2017.....

That is why they lie, and lump in all shootings under the "mass public shooting" category you moron.............

Mother Jones is a left wing, socialist/communist, anti-gun publication....you moron.....they hate guns....but they accurately use the FBI definition of mass public shootings........you idiot.....and that means actual, Mass Public Shootings, the definition that everyone in America understands......were 10 in 2019......total deaths 73.

Gang bangers shooting up a pool party or a gang banger funeral are not Mass Public Shootings, and need different law enforcement responses than actual Mass public shootings do...you mope.

 

[August West]

Concealed carry nuts have shot and killed 579 people since 2007. 21 of the shootings were in self defense. They`ve also killed 17 cops. A license to kill. How cool is that?
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

The Violence Policy Center....what crap....

As to law abiding concealed carry permit holders....

New York Times Concealed Handgun Crime Numbers Are Bogus | National Review

This is likely to be an underestimate, since not all police crimes receive media coverage.

Concealed-handgun permit holders are much more law-abiding than the rest of the population.

With 683,396 full-time law-enforcement employees nationwide in 2006, we can infer that there were about 102 crimes by police per 100,000 officers. Among the U.S. population as a whole, the crime rate was 37 times higher than the police crime rate over those years — 3,813 per 100,000 people.

Now let’s look at permit holders. Between October 1, 1987, and January 31, 2015, Florida revoked 9,366 concealed-handgun permits for misdemeanor or felony offenses. This is an annual rate of 12.5 crimes per 100,000 permit holders — a mere eighth of the crime rate among officers. In Texas, 108 permit holders were convicted of misdemeanors or felonies in 2015 — the last year for which data are available. This is a rate of 10.8 per 100,000, scarcely more than a tenth of the rate for police.

Among police, firearms violations occur at a rate of 6.9 per 100,000 officers. For Florida permit holders, the rate is only 0.31 per 100,000. Most of these violations were trivial offenses, such as forgetting one’s permit. The data are similar in other states.

National Review...Now that`s a fair and balanced news source. What does Breitbart, Drudge and the Nation`s Real Assholes have to say? Love your technicolor spam btw.

 

[2aguy]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

Dude.

2?

Dude? Do you realize that morons like you claim there are hundreds? By showing the truth, with links to actual information, I am telling the truth....you are supporting lies.

 

[2aguy]

Concealed carry nuts have shot and killed 579 people since 2007. 21 of the shootings were in self defense. They`ve also killed 17 cops. A license to kill. How cool is that?
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

The Violence Policy Center....what crap....

As to law abiding concealed carry permit holders....

New York Times Concealed Handgun Crime Numbers Are Bogus | National Review

This is likely to be an underestimate, since not all police crimes receive media coverage.

Concealed-handgun permit holders are much more law-abiding than the rest of the population.

With 683,396 full-time law-enforcement employees nationwide in 2006, we can infer that there were about 102 crimes by police per 100,000 officers. Among the U.S. population as a whole, the crime rate was 37 times higher than the police crime rate over those years — 3,813 per 100,000 people.

Now let’s look at permit holders. Between October 1, 1987, and January 31, 2015, Florida revoked 9,366 concealed-handgun permits for misdemeanor or felony offenses. This is an annual rate of 12.5 crimes per 100,000 permit holders — a mere eighth of the crime rate among officers. In Texas, 108 permit holders were convicted of misdemeanors or felonies in 2015 — the last year for which data are available. This is a rate of 10.8 per 100,000, scarcely more than a tenth of the rate for police.

Among police, firearms violations occur at a rate of 6.9 per 100,000 officers. For Florida permit holders, the rate is only 0.31 per 100,000. Most of these violations were trivial offenses, such as forgetting one’s permit. The data are similar in other states.

National Review...Now that`s a fair and balanced news source. What does Breitbart, Drudge and the Nation`s Real Assholes have to say? Love your technicolor spam btw.

Is it true or not that the Violence Policy Center recounts the same shooting over multiple years? Are the numbers presented in the above post true or not?

That you can't deny these facts just drives you nuts.....

 

[DrLove]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You’re a fucking liar.
U.S. mass killings hit new high in 2019; most were shootings
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-30/us-mass-killings-shootings-2019

2a gets his stats from the NRA and National Review. Mother Jones was a one-off. Don't trouble him with facts.

Mass Killings in US Hit New High in 2019 | 2019-12-30 | Security Magazine

 

[2aguy]

Concealed carry nuts have shot and killed 579 people since 2007. 21 of the shootings were in self defense. They`ve also killed 17 cops. A license to kill. How cool is that?
VPC: Concealed Carry Killers

The Violence Policy Center....what crap....

As to law abiding concealed carry permit holders....

New York Times Concealed Handgun Crime Numbers Are Bogus | National Review

This is likely to be an underestimate, since not all police crimes receive media coverage.

Concealed-handgun permit holders are much more law-abiding than the rest of the population.

With 683,396 full-time law-enforcement employees nationwide in 2006, we can infer that there were about 102 crimes by police per 100,000 officers. Among the U.S. population as a whole, the crime rate was 37 times higher than the police crime rate over those years — 3,813 per 100,000 people.

Now let’s look at permit holders. Between October 1, 1987, and January 31, 2015, Florida revoked 9,366 concealed-handgun permits for misdemeanor or felony offenses. This is an annual rate of 12.5 crimes per 100,000 permit holders — a mere eighth of the crime rate among officers. In Texas, 108 permit holders were convicted of misdemeanors or felonies in 2015 — the last year for which data are available. This is a rate of 10.8 per 100,000, scarcely more than a tenth of the rate for police.

Among police, firearms violations occur at a rate of 6.9 per 100,000 officers. For Florida permit holders, the rate is only 0.31 per 100,000. Most of these violations were trivial offenses, such as forgetting one’s permit. The data are similar in other states.

National Review...Now that`s a fair and balanced news source. What does Breitbart, Drudge and the Nation`s Real Assholes have to say? Love your technicolor spam btw.

Go ahead....show how these numbers are wrong....

..

New York Times Concealed Handgun Crime Numbers Are Bogus | National Review

This is likely to be an underestimate, since not all police crimes receive media coverage.

Concealed-handgun permit holders are much more law-abiding than the rest of the population.

With 683,396 full-time law-enforcement employees nationwide in 2006, we can infer that there were about 102 crimes by police per 100,000 officers. Among the U.S. population as a whole, the crime rate was 37 times higher than the police crime rate over those years — 3,813 per 100,000 people.

Now let’s look at permit holders. Between October 1, 1987, and January 31, 2015, Florida revoked 9,366 concealed-handgun permits for misdemeanor or felony offenses.

This is an annual rate of 12.5 crimes per 100,000 permit holders — a mere eighth of the crime rate among officers.

In Texas, 108 permit holders were convicted of misdemeanors or felonies in 2015 — the last year for which data are available. This is a rate of 10.8 per 100,000, scarcely more than a tenth of the rate for police.

Among police, firearms violations occur at a rate of 6.9 per 100,000 officers. For Florida permit holders, the rate is only 0.31 per 100,000. Most of these violations were trivial offenses, such as forgetting one’s permit. The data are similar in other states.

 

[2aguy]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You’re a fucking liar.
U.S. mass killings hit new high in 2019; most were shootings
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-30/us-mass-killings-shootings-2019

2a gets his stats from the NRA and National Review. Mother Jones was a one-off. Don't trouble him with facts.

Mass Killings in US Hit New High in 2019 | 2019-12-30 | Security Magazine

Moron...none of the statistics I get are from the NRA......you moron.

I get my information from the Centers for Disease Control, the Department of Justice, in particular the FBI, and the Mass Public Shooting record from Mother Jones......

I cite all of my data, give long quotes....( which drives you asshats insane) and you can't refute them...

Mother Jones uses the FBI definition of Mass Public Shootings...and they list going back to 1981.

You asshats lie, you use the terms "Mass Killings" and other terms to conceal the fact that actual Mass Public Shootings are the rarest of rare crimes....again 10 in 2019, 12 in 2018, 11 in 2017......

This destroys your emotional, irrational claims for gun control.....

 

[2aguy]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You’re a fucking liar.
U.S. mass killings hit new high in 2019; most were shootings
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-30/us-mass-killings-shootings-2019

2a gets his stats from the NRA and National Review. Mother Jones was a one-off. Don't trouble him with facts.

Mass Killings in US Hit New High in 2019 | 2019-12-30 | Security Magazine

You are a moron....

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.

(Since then, the obama administration lowered the number to 3 instead of 4, to increase the number of mass public shootings.....since the 4 number wasn't racking up enough shootings...)

Here is a description of the criteria we use:

• The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
• The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
• The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
• Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
• We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

2019....10 ( 7 according to the old standard)

2018... 12 ( 8 according to the old standard)

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75
(https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

 

[DrLove]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You’re a fucking liar.
U.S. mass killings hit new high in 2019; most were shootings
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-30/us-mass-killings-shootings-2019

2a gets his stats from the NRA and National Review. Mother Jones was a one-off. Don't trouble him with facts.

Mass Killings in US Hit New High in 2019 | 2019-12-30 | Security Magazine

You are a moron....

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.

(Since then, the obama administration lowered the number to 3 instead of 4, to increase the number of mass public shootings.....since the 4 number wasn't racking up enough shootings...)

Here is a description of the criteria we use:

• The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
• The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
• The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
• Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
• We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

2019....10 ( 7 according to the old standard)

2018... 12 ( 8 according to the old standard)

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75
(https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Jesus dude, It is only necessary to post something once. Does the NRA pay you based on the bandwidth you suck up?

 

[DrLove]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You’re a fucking liar.
U.S. mass killings hit new high in 2019; most were shootings
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-30/us-mass-killings-shootings-2019

2a gets his stats from the NRA and National Review. Mother Jones was a one-off. Don't trouble him with facts.

Mass Killings in US Hit New High in 2019 | 2019-12-30 | Security Magazine

Moron...none of the statistics I get are from the NRA......you moron.

I get my information from the Centers for Disease Control, the Department of Justice, in particular the FBI, and the Mass Public Shooting record from Mother Jones......

I cite all of my data, give long quotes....( which drives you asshats insane) and you can't refute them...

Mother Jones uses the FBI definition of Mass Public Shootings...and they list going back to 1981.

You asshats lie, you use the terms "Mass Killings" and other terms to conceal the fact that actual Mass Public Shootings are the rarest of rare crimes....again 10 in 2019, 12 in 2018, 11 in 2017......

This destroys your emotional, irrational claims for gun control.....

No one is being irrational. No one is interested in controlling or grabbing your fucking guns. Unless of course you are a kook or a criminal. 90% of Americans want NO exceptions on BG checks. That includes a vast majority of NRA members. Dems be da facts.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Jesus dude, It is only necessary to post something once. Does the NRA pay you based on the bandwidth you suck up?

Look how raw facts trigger you. I feel so sorry for you.