In 2019 we had fewer mass public shootings than in 2018...but....but how is that possible?

[candycorn]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You’re a fucking liar.
U.S. mass killings hit new high in 2019; most were shootings
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-30/us-mass-killings-shootings-2019

2a gets his stats from the NRA and National Review. Mother Jones was a one-off. Don't trouble him with facts.

Mass Killings in US Hit New High in 2019 | 2019-12-30 | Security Magazine

You are a moron....

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.

(Since then, the obama administration lowered the number to 3 instead of 4, to increase the number of mass public shootings.....since the 4 number wasn't racking up enough shootings...)

Here is a description of the criteria we use:

• The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
• The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
• The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
• Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
• We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

2019....10 ( 7 according to the old standard)

2018... 12 ( 8 according to the old standard)

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75
(https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Jesus dude, It is only necessary to post something once. Does the NRA pay you based on the bandwidth you suck up?

People stopped believing him long ago.

 

[daveman]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

How disappointing for you.

Why would he be disappointed? It's not like Second Amendment supporters need stacks of bodies from which to preach gun control.

 

[DrLove]

Jesus dude, It is only necessary to post something once. Does the NRA pay you based on the bandwidth you suck up?

Look how raw facts trigger you. I feel so sorry for you.

Raw facts? Enjoy

Americans Widely Support Tighter Regulations on Gun Sales

Americans who respond to those polls don't understand the issue, which is intentional on the part of the pollsters.....

If they understood that the only reason that anti-gun activists want universal background checks is to then demand universal gun registration, those poll numbers would change. And if they understood that universal gun registration is always the precursor to gun confiscation....as we know from actual human history and experience in Britain, France, Canada, Australia, Germany, Russia........and from various states around our country...those numbers would change.......

You don't know what you are talking about, you are not a serious individual.

I know exactly what I am talking about. You should stop fluffing Wayne.

You dumb ass anti-gunners........you have nothing ...... you have no arguments...... when you are shown actual facts from the CDC, the Department of Justice and even a left wing, anti-gun news source, Mother Jones......all you have is "blah blah blah, NRA....Blah blah blah....NRA..."

ARe you this lame in real life or just when you post?

The Internet would be a better place without your goofy, 1,000+ word repeated (endlessly) cut n pastes.

 

[2aguy]

Moron...none of the statistics I get are from the NRA......you moron.

I get my information from the Centers for Disease Control, the Department of Justice, in particular the FBI, and the Mass Public Shooting record from Mother Jones......

I cite all of my data, give long quotes....( which drives you asshats insane) and you can't refute them...

Mother Jones uses the FBI definition of Mass Public Shootings...and they list going back to 1981.

You asshats lie, you use the terms "Mass Killings" and other terms to conceal the fact that actual Mass Public Shootings are the rarest of rare crimes....again 10 in 2019, 12 in 2018, 11 in 2017......

This destroys your emotional, irrational claims for gun control.....

No one is being irrational. No one is interested in controlling or grabbing your fucking guns. Unless of course you are a kook or a criminal. 90% of Americans want NO exceptions on BG checks. That includes a vast majority of NRA members. Dems be da facts.

The facts are the people who respond to that poll don't know the issue.....that is a fact. If they did, they wouldn't support universal background checks...that is a fact.

LoL - First I was told that the polls are all manipulated and now I am told that people are too stupid to know what they want or even take a poll in the first place.

That's rich - LaPierre owes you a bonus

Do you think you are the first anti-gun doofus to use the tired line that I work for the NRA....? You are just the latest in lazy, dumb, anti-gun hacks who can't explain away the truth, facts and reality of gun ownership in this country...who essentially has ignorance and emotion as their only arguing point in the debate.....

That is you, you dumb ass.

Man, they pretty much allow every foul-mouthed racist, barrel stroking loon on the Internet post whatever they damn please here huh?

And where did you come up with the butt nugget that I am "anti-gun"? I'm a gun owner Pee Wee. And like me, most gun owners support UBC's.

Do 97% of gun owners support universal background checks?

And again, you don't know what you are talking about....the question they ask isn't....

"Would you support universal background checks if they led to gun registration and the banning and confiscation of guns or categories of guns?"

or...

"Do you support universal background checks, even though we have current, federally mandated background checks that are ignored by criminals who use straw buyers to buy their guns who can already pass any background check, making universal background checks useless....or they steal their guns..........and after the implementation of background checks, the next demand will be universal gun registration which is the precursor to banning categories of guns or guns in total?"

They don't ask that question you dumb ass....they simply ask if the uninformed poll taker wants the generic, innocent sounding term "universal background checks," and then lie when they say they support them...they don't understand the issue...

 

[daveman]

Jesus dude, It is only necessary to post something once. Does the NRA pay you based on the bandwidth you suck up?

Look how raw facts trigger you. I feel so sorry for you.

Raw facts? Enjoy

Americans Widely Support Tighter Regulations on Gun Sales

Americans who respond to those polls don't understand the issue, which is intentional on the part of the pollsters.....

If they understood that the only reason that anti-gun activists want universal background checks is to then demand universal gun registration, those poll numbers would change. And if they understood that universal gun registration is always the precursor to gun confiscation....as we know from actual human history and experience in Britain, France, Canada, Australia, Germany, Russia........and from various states around our country...those numbers would change.......

You don't know what you are talking about, you are not a serious individual.

I know exactly what I am talking about. And you should stop fluffing Wayne.

Who said we should arm school children?

 

[daveman]

Look how raw facts trigger you. I feel so sorry for you.

Raw facts? Enjoy

Americans Widely Support Tighter Regulations on Gun Sales

Americans who respond to those polls don't understand the issue, which is intentional on the part of the pollsters.....

If they understood that the only reason that anti-gun activists want universal background checks is to then demand universal gun registration, those poll numbers would change. And if they understood that universal gun registration is always the precursor to gun confiscation....as we know from actual human history and experience in Britain, France, Canada, Australia, Germany, Russia........and from various states around our country...those numbers would change.......

You don't know what you are talking about, you are not a serious individual.

I know exactly what I am talking about. You should stop fluffing Wayne.

You dumb ass anti-gunners........you have nothing ...... you have no arguments...... when you are shown actual facts from the CDC, the Department of Justice and even a left wing, anti-gun news source, Mother Jones......all you have is "blah blah blah, NRA....Blah blah blah....NRA..."

ARe you this lame in real life or just when you post?

The Internet would be a better place without your goofy, 1,000+ word repeated (endlessly) cut n pastes.

You lefties sure do like to silence people who disagree with you.

 

[2aguy]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

You’re a fucking liar.
U.S. mass killings hit new high in 2019; most were shootings
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-30/us-mass-killings-shootings-2019

2a gets his stats from the NRA and National Review. Mother Jones was a one-off. Don't trouble him with facts.

Mass Killings in US Hit New High in 2019 | 2019-12-30 | Security Magazine

You are a moron....

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.

(Since then, the obama administration lowered the number to 3 instead of 4, to increase the number of mass public shootings.....since the 4 number wasn't racking up enough shootings...)

Here is a description of the criteria we use:

• The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
• The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
• The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
• Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
• We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

2019....10 ( 7 according to the old standard)

2018... 12 ( 8 according to the old standard)

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75
(https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Jesus dude, It is only necessary to post something once. Does the NRA pay you based on the bandwidth you suck up?

People stopped believing him long ago.

You guys are so cute when you aren't putting millions of people into mass graves.....

 

[2aguy]

Raw facts? Enjoy

Americans Widely Support Tighter Regulations on Gun Sales

Americans who respond to those polls don't understand the issue, which is intentional on the part of the pollsters.....

If they understood that the only reason that anti-gun activists want universal background checks is to then demand universal gun registration, those poll numbers would change. And if they understood that universal gun registration is always the precursor to gun confiscation....as we know from actual human history and experience in Britain, France, Canada, Australia, Germany, Russia........and from various states around our country...those numbers would change.......

You don't know what you are talking about, you are not a serious individual.

I know exactly what I am talking about. You should stop fluffing Wayne.

You dumb ass anti-gunners........you have nothing ...... you have no arguments...... when you are shown actual facts from the CDC, the Department of Justice and even a left wing, anti-gun news source, Mother Jones......all you have is "blah blah blah, NRA....Blah blah blah....NRA..."

ARe you this lame in real life or just when you post?

The Internet would be a better place without your goofy, 1,000+ word repeated (endlessly) cut n pastes.

You lefties sure do like to silence people who disagree with you.

It is hard to argue a point from inside a mass grave...which is why they are so popular with left wingers all over the world....

 

[DrLove]

Americans who respond to those polls don't understand the issue, which is intentional on the part of the pollsters.....

If they understood that the only reason that anti-gun activists want universal background checks is to then demand universal gun registration, those poll numbers would change. And if they understood that universal gun registration is always the precursor to gun confiscation....as we know from actual human history and experience in Britain, France, Canada, Australia, Germany, Russia........and from various states around our country...those numbers would change.......

You don't know what you are talking about, you are not a serious individual.

I know exactly what I am talking about. You should stop fluffing Wayne.

You dumb ass anti-gunners........you have nothing ...... you have no arguments...... when you are shown actual facts from the CDC, the Department of Justice and even a left wing, anti-gun news source, Mother Jones......all you have is "blah blah blah, NRA....Blah blah blah....NRA..."

ARe you this lame in real life or just when you post?

The Internet would be a better place without your goofy, 1,000+ word repeated (endlessly) cut n pastes.

You lefties sure do like to silence people who disagree with you.

It is hard to argue a point from inside a mass grave...which is why they are so popular with left wingers all over the world....

This is a damn lie and you know it.

Any vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The Internet would be a better place without your goofy, 1,000+ word repeated (endlessly) cut n pastes.

Or without you and your disingenuous repetitive trolling at all. You are a human speed bump in the way of effective sensible communication.

 

[DrLove]

The Internet would be a better place without your goofy, 1,000+ word repeated (endlessly) cut n pastes.

Or without you and your disingenuous repetitive trolling at all. You are a human speed bump in the way of effective sensible communication.

You enjoy 2a's repeated and dubious 1000+ word cut n pastes obviously. Sorry, but I've seen about 1000 of them and they get very VERY old.

 

[Care4all]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

How disappointing for you.

Weird how the numbers of Mass Shootings are so different...???

There have been more mass shootings than days this year

There have been more mass shootings than days this year
By Jason Silverstein

Updated on: December 25, 2019 / 4:34 PM / CBS News

The number of mass shootings across the U.S. thus far in 2019 has outpaced the number of days this year, according to a gun violence research group. Before this year has even ended, 2019 has already had more mass shootings than any year since the research group started keeping track.

As of December 25, the 359th day of the year, there have been 406 mass shootings in the U.S., according to data from the nonprofit Gun Violence Archive (GVA), which tracks every mass shooting in the country. Twenty-nine of those shootings were mass murders.

The GVA defines a mass shooting as any incident in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter. The group also tracks mass murders as defined by the FBI — incidents in which at least four people are killed. The FBI does not have a formal definition of a mass shooting.

The toll of 406 mass shootings includes several high-profile attacks, two of which happened within 24 hours of each other:

• A shootout at a kosher grocery store in Jersey City, New Jersey, on December 10. Three people in the store were killed and three others wounded, including two police officers. The two attackers also died in the shootout. The attackers also shot and killed a police detective at a nearby cemetery before the store attack.

• A shooting near New Orleans' French Quarter on December 1 that left 11 people injured.

• A shooting at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita, California, on November 14, left two teenage students killed and three wounded. The suspect, a 16-year-old student, shot himself in the head and died the next day.

• A drive-by shooting spree in Odessa and Midland, Texas, on August 31, left seven people killed and 24 wounded

• A shooting in a historic district of Dayton, Ohio, on August 4, left nine people killed and 27 injured.

• A shooting at Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on August 3, with 22 people killed and at least 24 wounded. It was the deadliest shooting of the year.

• A shooting in a municipal building in Virginia Beach, on May 31, where a former city employee killed 12 people and wounded four.

The GVA said there have been a total of 38,631 gun deaths — including homicides, suicides and accidents — and 28,895 injuries, as of December 25.

By its final month, 2019 already had the highest number of mass shootings in any year since 2014, when the Gun Violence Archive started its count.

 

[2aguy]

I know exactly what I am talking about. You should stop fluffing Wayne.

You dumb ass anti-gunners........you have nothing ...... you have no arguments...... when you are shown actual facts from the CDC, the Department of Justice and even a left wing, anti-gun news source, Mother Jones......all you have is "blah blah blah, NRA....Blah blah blah....NRA..."

ARe you this lame in real life or just when you post?

The Internet would be a better place without your goofy, 1,000+ word repeated (endlessly) cut n pastes.

You lefties sure do like to silence people who disagree with you.

It is hard to argue a point from inside a mass grave...which is why they are so popular with left wingers all over the world....

This is a damn lie and you know it.

Any vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment.

I'm sorry, I couldn't read your post, I was busy listening to baby Beto say he wanted to go house to house to confiscate guns but was interrupted by the Virginia, democrat party Governor....Governor "Black Face," or is it Governor "Klan Robes and hood," who said he would use the national guard and fire remove the police powers of any law enforcement agent who didn't back gun confiscation?

 

[DrLove]

I'm sorry, I couldn't read your post, I was busy listening to baby Beto say he wanted to go house to house to confiscate guns but was interrupted by the Virginia, democrat party Governor....Governor "Black Face," or is it Governor "Klan Robes and hood," who said he would use the national guard and fire remove the police powers of any law enforcement agent who didn't back gun confiscation?

That's one of several reasons Beto is gone. Gun buybacks are a good idea. So is reinstating the assault-style weapons ban. But confiscation will never happen in this country. So you can relax that death grip on your arsenal.

 

[2aguy]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

How disappointing for you.

Weird how the numbers of Mass Shootings are so different...???

There have been more mass shootings than days this year

There have been more mass shootings than days this year
By Jason Silverstein

Updated on: December 25, 2019 / 4:34 PM / CBS News

The number of mass shootings across the U.S. thus far in 2019 has outpaced the number of days this year, according to a gun violence research group. Before this year has even ended, 2019 has already had more mass shootings than any year since the research group started keeping track.

As of December 25, the 359th day of the year, there have been 406 mass shootings in the U.S., according to data from the nonprofit Gun Violence Archive (GVA), which tracks every mass shooting in the country. Twenty-nine of those shootings were mass murders.

The GVA defines a mass shooting as any incident in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter. The group also tracks mass murders as defined by the FBI — incidents in which at least four people are killed. The FBI does not have a formal definition of a mass shooting.

The toll of 406 mass shootings includes several high-profile attacks, two of which happened within 24 hours of each other:

• 
  
  
  • A shootout at a kosher grocery store in Jersey City, New Jersey, on December 10. Three people in the store were killed and three others wounded, including two police officers. The two attackers also died in the shootout. The attackers also shot and killed a police detective at a nearby cemetery before the store attack.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting near New Orleans' French Quarter on December 1 that left 11 people injured.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita, California, on November 14, left two teenage students killed and three wounded. The suspect, a 16-year-old student, shot himself in the head and died the next day.

• 
  
  
  • A drive-by shooting spree in Odessa and Midland, Texas, on August 31, left seven people killed and 24 wounded

• 
  
  
  • A shooting in a historic district of Dayton, Ohio, on August 4, left nine people killed and 27 injured.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting at Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on August 3, with 22 people killed and at least 24 wounded. It was the deadliest shooting of the year.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting in a municipal building in Virginia Beach, on May 31, where a former city employee killed 12 people and wounded four.

The GVA said there have been a total of 38,631 gun deaths — including homicides, suicides and accidents — and 28,895 injuries, as of December 25.

By its final month, 2019 already had the highest number of mass shootings in any year since 2014, when the Gun Violence Archive started its count.

The Gun Violence Archive also lies...as you just did...

They know that when you say "Mass Shooting," uninformed people hear "Mass Public Shooting," a completely different crime than the shootings the Gun Violence Archive lists......they are lying......

They include every gang banger shooting in order to falsely inflate the numbers and lie by implying they are "Mass Public Shootings."

You have to lie to get those numbers up...people are not afraid of gang bangers killing gang bangers, they fear the lone guy walking into a mall....you asshats know that, which is why you hide gang banger shootings and call them "Mass Public Shootings."

Again....Mother Jones, the left wing, gun hating site lists all "mass public shootings" going back to 1981.......

Here...again...

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

Total murders by mass public shooters...1982-2017
795


knife murders.....2009-2013.....

2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
2015....1,589
2016....1,632
2017....1,591

Rifle murder....

2009---351
2010---367
2011---332
2012---298
2013---285

---------
The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones.......tell me Mother Jones is part of the NRA moron.....

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...

I have put obama's updated number in parenthesis..........

we will see....


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75
(https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

 

[DrLove]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

How disappointing for you.

Weird how the numbers of Mass Shootings are so different...???

There have been more mass shootings than days this year

There have been more mass shootings than days this year
By Jason Silverstein

Updated on: December 25, 2019 / 4:34 PM / CBS News

The number of mass shootings across the U.S. thus far in 2019 has outpaced the number of days this year, according to a gun violence research group. Before this year has even ended, 2019 has already had more mass shootings than any year since the research group started keeping track.

As of December 25, the 359th day of the year, there have been 406 mass shootings in the U.S., according to data from the nonprofit Gun Violence Archive (GVA), which tracks every mass shooting in the country. Twenty-nine of those shootings were mass murders.

The GVA defines a mass shooting as any incident in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter. The group also tracks mass murders as defined by the FBI — incidents in which at least four people are killed. The FBI does not have a formal definition of a mass shooting.

The toll of 406 mass shootings includes several high-profile attacks, two of which happened within 24 hours of each other:

• 
  
  
  • A shootout at a kosher grocery store in Jersey City, New Jersey, on December 10. Three people in the store were killed and three others wounded, including two police officers. The two attackers also died in the shootout. The attackers also shot and killed a police detective at a nearby cemetery before the store attack.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting near New Orleans' French Quarter on December 1 that left 11 people injured.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita, California, on November 14, left two teenage students killed and three wounded. The suspect, a 16-year-old student, shot himself in the head and died the next day.

• 
  
  
  • A drive-by shooting spree in Odessa and Midland, Texas, on August 31, left seven people killed and 24 wounded

• 
  
  
  • A shooting in a historic district of Dayton, Ohio, on August 4, left nine people killed and 27 injured.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting at Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on August 3, with 22 people killed and at least 24 wounded. It was the deadliest shooting of the year.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting in a municipal building in Virginia Beach, on May 31, where a former city employee killed 12 people and wounded four.

The GVA said there have been a total of 38,631 gun deaths — including homicides, suicides and accidents — and 28,895 injuries, as of December 25.

By its final month, 2019 already had the highest number of mass shootings in any year since 2014, when the Gun Violence Archive started its count.

The Gun Violence Archive also lies...as you just did...

They know that when you say "Mass Shooting," uninformed people hear "Mass Public Shooting," a completely different crime than the shootings the Gun Violence Archive lists......they are lying......

They include every gang banger shooting in order to falsely inflate the numbers and lie by implying they are "Mass Public Shootings."

You have to lie to get those numbers up...people are not afraid of gang bangers killing gang bangers, they fear the lone guy walking into a mall....you asshats know that, which is why you hide gang banger shootings and call them "Mass Public Shootings."

Again....Mother Jones, the left wing, gun hating site lists all "mass public shootings" going back to 1981.......

Here...again...

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

Total murders by mass public shooters...1982-2017
795


knife murders.....2009-2013.....

2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
2015....1,589
2016....1,632
2017....1,591

Rifle murder....

2009---351
2010---367
2011---332
2012---298
2013---285

---------
The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones.......tell me Mother Jones is part of the NRA moron.....

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...

I have put obama's updated number in parenthesis..........

we will see....


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75
(https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Oh cool - We needed another C&P of the same shit. Sheesh, I'd rather watch football

 

[2aguy]

I'm sorry, I couldn't read your post, I was busy listening to baby Beto say he wanted to go house to house to confiscate guns but was interrupted by the Virginia, democrat party Governor....Governor "Black Face," or is it Governor "Klan Robes and hood," who said he would use the national guard and fire remove the police powers of any law enforcement agent who didn't back gun confiscation?

That's one of several reasons Beto is gone. Gun buybacks are a good idea. So is reinstating the assault-style weapons ban. But confiscation will never happen in this country. So you can relax that death grip on your arsenal.

Gun buy backs are an incredibly stupid idea, and they believe in bans and confiscation, no matter how much you lie about it.

The "assault weapon," ban is a stupid idea too, you doofus......

Total number of people killed in 2019 in 10 mass public shootings.....73. Total from any rifle type?

43

Total number of people killed by knives each year...over 1,500

Total number of people killed in bicycle accidents in 2017.....345

Total number of people killed in law mower accidents? over 75....

You don't have any rational argument.

 

[2aguy]

If you actually use the definition for Mass Public Shootings.....according to the FBI, and look at the chart used by Mother Jones, a left wing, anti-gun news organization.....we find that we had fewer mass public shootings in 2019 than in 2018......

It was also nice that the Texas shooter was stopped by an armed citizen....who shot and stopped the killer in 6 seconds....

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Mass public shootings in 2018.....12. Total Killed...93.

Mass public shootings in 2019.....10. Total killed...73.

But....but......how is that possible?

How disappointing for you.

Weird how the numbers of Mass Shootings are so different...???

There have been more mass shootings than days this year

There have been more mass shootings than days this year
By Jason Silverstein

Updated on: December 25, 2019 / 4:34 PM / CBS News

The number of mass shootings across the U.S. thus far in 2019 has outpaced the number of days this year, according to a gun violence research group. Before this year has even ended, 2019 has already had more mass shootings than any year since the research group started keeping track.

As of December 25, the 359th day of the year, there have been 406 mass shootings in the U.S., according to data from the nonprofit Gun Violence Archive (GVA), which tracks every mass shooting in the country. Twenty-nine of those shootings were mass murders.

The GVA defines a mass shooting as any incident in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter. The group also tracks mass murders as defined by the FBI — incidents in which at least four people are killed. The FBI does not have a formal definition of a mass shooting.

The toll of 406 mass shootings includes several high-profile attacks, two of which happened within 24 hours of each other:

• 
  
  
  • A shootout at a kosher grocery store in Jersey City, New Jersey, on December 10. Three people in the store were killed and three others wounded, including two police officers. The two attackers also died in the shootout. The attackers also shot and killed a police detective at a nearby cemetery before the store attack.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting near New Orleans' French Quarter on December 1 that left 11 people injured.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita, California, on November 14, left two teenage students killed and three wounded. The suspect, a 16-year-old student, shot himself in the head and died the next day.

• 
  
  
  • A drive-by shooting spree in Odessa and Midland, Texas, on August 31, left seven people killed and 24 wounded

• 
  
  
  • A shooting in a historic district of Dayton, Ohio, on August 4, left nine people killed and 27 injured.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting at Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on August 3, with 22 people killed and at least 24 wounded. It was the deadliest shooting of the year.

• 
  
  
  • A shooting in a municipal building in Virginia Beach, on May 31, where a former city employee killed 12 people and wounded four.

The GVA said there have been a total of 38,631 gun deaths — including homicides, suicides and accidents — and 28,895 injuries, as of December 25.

By its final month, 2019 already had the highest number of mass shootings in any year since 2014, when the Gun Violence Archive started its count.

The Gun Violence Archive also lies...as you just did...

They know that when you say "Mass Shooting," uninformed people hear "Mass Public Shooting," a completely different crime than the shootings the Gun Violence Archive lists......they are lying......

They include every gang banger shooting in order to falsely inflate the numbers and lie by implying they are "Mass Public Shootings."

You have to lie to get those numbers up...people are not afraid of gang bangers killing gang bangers, they fear the lone guy walking into a mall....you asshats know that, which is why you hide gang banger shootings and call them "Mass Public Shootings."

Again....Mother Jones, the left wing, gun hating site lists all "mass public shootings" going back to 1981.......

Here...again...

US mass shootings, 1982-2019: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.

Total murders by mass public shooters...1982-2017
795


knife murders.....2009-2013.....

2009----1,836
2010----1,933
2011----1,611
2012---1,769
2013---1.956
2015....1,589
2016....1,632
2017....1,591

Rifle murder....

2009---351
2010---367
2011---332
2012---298
2013---285

---------
The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones.......tell me Mother Jones is part of the NRA moron.....

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...

I have put obama's updated number in parenthesis..........

we will see....


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75
(https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Oh cool - We needed another C&P of the same shit. Sheesh, I'd rather watch football

You will watch football with far more intelligence than you post.....

 

[Care4all]

a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.

The GVA defines a mass shooting as any incident in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter. The group also tracks mass murders as defined by the FBI — incidents in which at least four people are killed. The FBI does not have a formal definition of a mass shooting.

THEY ARE USING THE SAME CRITERIA..... so how did your numbers get so low? Or my source get so high?


YOUR ARTICLE numbers seem fake.... and why list only those MURDERED and NOT also SHOT and injured in the incidences when it IS FOR MASS SHOOTINGS?

ah .... mine counts all and yours cherry picks?

 

[2aguy]

a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.

The GVA defines a mass shooting as any incident in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter. The group also tracks mass murders as defined by the FBI — incidents in which at least four people are killed. The FBI does not have a formal definition of a mass shooting.

THEY ARE USING THE SAME CRITERIA..... so how did your numbers get so low? Or my source get so high?


YOUR ARTICLE numbers seem fake.... and why list only those MURDERED and NOT also SHOT and injured in the incidences when it IS FOR MASS SHOOTINGS?

ah .... mine counts all and yours cherry picks?

They are not using the same criteria....they are using completely different crimes and trying to call them the same thing.

A gang banger shooting up a rivals party is not the same thing as a left wing democrat walking up to a republican baseball practice and trying to murder them......they have different causes and different solutions ....but most of all they endanger completely different types of people.....

You guys use criminal activity to try to convince uninformed people to give you power to ban guns....... if you had to rely on just Mass Public Shootings, in reality, those 73 deaths out of 320 million people aren't getting you that power.....

So you have to lie, and try to convince the average, normal American that living in rural or suburban America, they have to be worried about a few block area in a democrat party controlled city where gangs kill each other....

That doesn't sell, you guys don't even care about those deaths otherwise you wouldn't keep letting violent, repeat gun offenders out of jail.....