Is a 1911 Tougher than a Glock? Ultimate 1911 vs. Glock Torture Test | Ep.1

[whitehall]

Tough? How do you classify a weapon that way? The 1911 G.I. .45 is built to government tolerances that withstand contamination. Glocks maybe more accurate because they are tighter.

 

[westwall]

AI states
The first commercially successful polymer-framed handgun was the Glock 17, designed by Gaston Glock. Introduced in 1982, the Glock 17 revolutionized the firearms industry with its use of a high-strength polymer for the pistol's frame, reducing weight while maintaining durability. Gaston Glock, an Austrian engineer, founded Glock Ges.m.b.H. to produce this innovative firearm, which quickly gained popularity among military and law enforcement agencies around the world.

the nylon 66 was a .22 and a rifle

P9 was not a full polymer frame:

The pistol features a stamped steel frame with a polymer trigger guard and grip panels, which was innovative for the time, reducing weight while maintaining strength.

The Frame of the P9 was like the frame of a house, the polymer made up the bulk of the frame of the pistol. And the Glock is basically the same. It too is built around a steel substrate. That little steel plate that prevents the slide from leaving the frame is the exposed part.

 

[JGalt]

Tough? How do you classify a weapon that way? The 1911 G.I. .45 is built to government tolerances that withstand contamination. Glocks maybe more accurate because they are tighter.

Actually the 1911 is far more accurate, and can be made even more accurate with custom fitting of the parts. The 1911-style triggers are linear, compared to the rotational triggers in a Glock, and being single-action, they have a lower pull weight, less trigger creep and are crisper. The 1911 is also more ergonomic, since it has a single-stack magazine, and its heavier weight reduces the recoil. There's also the fact the full-sized 1911 barrels are 5", while most Glock barrels are 4" to 4.5", which makes a difference in accuracy.

You can accurize a Glock to a certain extent with custom parts, but the best thing you can do is get a trigger job. I followed a Youtube video a couple years ago and did a trigger job on my G19. It involved disassembly down to the component level and polishing the metal parts with a Dremel tool with buffer wheels, and some Flitz metal polish. It smoothed up the trigger pull and made it lighter and crisper, but I still can't get the tight groups as I could with a 1911.

The best thing anyone could do with a Glock is replace the rear sight with a small red dot reflex sight, but then it makes them a little harder to conceal. Custom handloading also helps, as you can tailor the round to the individual pistol. Most commercial ammo is designed to work in any model pistol, and is usually manufactured to have the most power, as opposed to being the most accurate.

 

[whitehall]

Actually the 1911 is far more accurate, and can be made even more accurate with custom fitting of the parts. The 1911-style triggers are linear, compared to the rotational triggers in a Glock, and being single-action, they have a lower pull weight, less trigger creep and are crisper. The 1911 is also more ergonomic, since it has a single-stack magazine, and its heavier weight reduces the recoil. There's also the fact the full-sized 1911 barrels are 5", while most Glock barrels are 4" to 4.5", which makes a difference in accuracy.

You can accurize a Glock to a certain extent with custom parts, but the best thing you can do is get a trigger job. I followed a Youtube video a couple years ago and did a trigger job on my G19. It involved disassembly down to the component level and polishing the metal parts with a Dremel tool with buffer wheels, and some Flitz metal polish. It smoothed up the trigger pull and made it lighter and crisper, but I still can't get the tight groups as I could with a 1911.

The best thing anyone could do with a Glock is replace the rear sight with a small red dot reflex sight, but then it makes them a little harder to conceal. Custom handloading also helps, as you can tailor the round to the individual pistol. Most commercial ammo is designed to work in any model pistol, and is usually manufactured to have the most power, as opposed to being the most accurate.

Custom fitting puts 1911 pistols in the category of finely tuned holster kept elite 9mm's. Do it at your peril.

 

[egp320i]

I like glocks, you can beat the shit out of them and they still work but I do like HK better, hammer plus a way better and smoother trigger
I did not get the LEM, double pull is a bit heavy at 10 pounds, single probably 6 pounds or something, guess LEM it's consistent around 5.5

 

[egp320i]

The HK (Heckler & Koch) LEM (Law Enforcement Modification) trigger system is known for providing a consistent trigger pull for all shots, eliminating the traditional difference between double-action (DA) and single-action (SA) pulls. Here are the specifics for HK's LEM trigger pull weights:

• Light LEM (V1):
  • This variant typically has a trigger pull weight of around 4.5 to 5.5 pounds (approximately 20 to 24.5 Newtons).
  • It's designed for users who prefer a lighter trigger pull for better control and accuracy while maintaining safety.
• Heavy LEM (V2):
  • The standard or "heavy" LEM version comes with a trigger pull weight in the range of 7.3 to 8.5 pounds (approximately 32.5 to 38 Newtons).
  • This heavier pull is often preferred for duty use or in situations where a slightly higher trigger weight is desired for safety reasons.
• Other Variants:
  • V4: This has a pull weight of about 6.2 pounds (27.5 Newtons), offering a middle ground between the light and heavy versions.

tear down is easy, that lever you pull the slide back so far and pull it out, off comes the slide

 

[whitehall]

I carried a .45 in the Marines as a field radio operator. The old 1911 was a WW2 vintage built by a typewriter company if memory serves. The recoil was substantial but it never failed to function. The U.S. caved into NATO demands during a series of democrat regimes and today the primary military handgun is made in freaking Europe. Meanwhile some federal law enforcement agencies are going back to the big old slow moving body stopping .45 bullet.

 

[egp320i]

the FBI uses .40 and a few police, still a few swat that use the .45 depending on the mission

 

[JustAGuy1]

This is a fun test. I'm biased being a Glock owner since the 1980's.
I've also carried a 1911 in the US Army.
Both pistols are impressive.

When it comes to it it is the user that matters. I own a Glock.

 

[egp320i]

When it comes to it it is the user that matters. I own a Glock.

certainly does, way too many gang bangers and idiots and sadly glock is the gun of choice.
I like my 19 gen 3, simple, solid and it just works

getting the slide off to clean/lube is a tad tricky until you get the hang of it

was always weird to pull the trigger [hopefully on an empty chamber] to do so
sure many have shot themselves because they were not paying attention