Is it just me, or do the House GOP have more loyalty to the president than the Senate GOP?

[shockedcanadian]

Just an observation thus far in his presidency. Assuming others agree, can someone help me understand the differences between these two branches of the U.S government and why one appears to be so different than the other? Does it have to do with lobbying laws or other factors?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Why do you want them to be loyal to the president? I thought separate branches of government were a good thing. Right?

Trump isn't king. Even if I liked the guy and I certainly don't it wouldn't be a good thing.

 

[playtime]

loyalty to a man is not what this country is all about. something the (R) traitors have forgotten.

 

[Darkwind]

The House of Representatives is what is termed as "The Peoples House". They are elected every two years and their numbers are based upon a percentage of the population in the States they are elected in. The more populated the state, the more representatives. Since they are elected so often, they are more sensitive to the people who have elected them. Their loyalty should be directed to their constituents.

The Senate is now a bastardized version of the House. The Senate was originally designed to represent the State. At our founding, the States had issues that were not always represented by the people, and therefore the founders decided that in a country of many states, each state had a right to have its interests represented. So, each state legislature would elect two Senators that were beholden to the interests of the state as they determined. The fact that the state legislature was also elected by the people gave the Senators a nebulous tie to the people, but it wasn't the people they were required to defend. Now, the Senate is elected directly by the people and the State's rights have been subsumed ever since. It was a masterstroke to give the Federal government supremacy.

The President is also elected by the States based upon a popular vote for each state that then has electors that vote all or nothing on the majority of the will of the people. However, these electors are not BOUND to the majority rule and can vote their conscious. Not really a good idea. This electoral college prevents mob rule and ensures that each state and its citizens do not become vassals to larger, or more populous states, essentially giving each state an equal voice..

I don't know that any branch of government should have more loyalty to the President than the other. Their loyalty is to the Constitution, and the people. Regardless, each branch of federal government is equal. Legislative, Executive, and Judicial. That is where the balance of power resides. Not in political parties like so many seem to think.

 

[Darkwind]

loyalty to a man is not what this country is all about. something the (R) traitors have forgotten.

Or the D traitors all through the Obama years.

 

[depotoo]

They haven’t been given access to the memo.

 

[playtime]

loyalty to a man is not what this country is all about. something the (R) traitors have forgotten.

Or the D traitors all through the Obama years.

sorry dude- but being complacent about russian election interference & some even actively trying to shut down investigations because they aren't done with their agenda yet is a whole new level of what being a 'traitor' is to the USA. (D)s aren't even close to that.

 

[Darkwind]

loyalty to a man is not what this country is all about. something the (R) traitors have forgotten.

Or the D traitors all through the Obama years.

sorry dude- but being complacent about russian election interference & some even actively trying to shut down investigations because they aren't done with their agenda yet is a whole new level of what being a 'traitor' is to the USA. (D)s aren't even close to that.

Nothing complacent about it. The Russians did not interfere with our elections. The investigation is based on a false narrative that has been proven to not exist and now goes forward for purely political, not patriotic, reasons.

 

[dcbl]

Just an observation thus far in his presidency. Assuming others agree, can someone help me understand the differences between these two branches of the U.S government and why one appears to be so different than the other? Does it have to do with lobbying laws or other factors?

The members of the House are more directly responsible to the people closer to home and tend to be more partisan

House members represent a smaller number of people and are more likely to have a large percentage of their base that is staunchly for one side or the other

Senate members represent the whole state and like to think they are 'above it all'

But lately, seems that democrat senators are damned near as partisan and rabid as their house counterparts

 

[JGalt]

Paul Ryan is a good egg. Not so much McConnell. He's a POS.

 

[playtime]

loyalty to a man is not what this country is all about. something the (R) traitors have forgotten.

Or the D traitors all through the Obama years.

sorry dude- but being complacent about russian election interference & some even actively trying to shut down investigations because they aren't done with their agenda yet is a whole new level of what being a 'traitor' is to the USA. (D)s aren't even close to that.

Nothing complacent about it. The Russians did not interfere with our elections. The investigation is based on a false narrative that has been proven to not exist and now goes forward for purely political, not patriotic, reasons.

flynn flipped for nothing then? wow.... somebody better tell him. lol.... not to mention that there was a mole in the trump campaign that was telling them all kinds of goodies & christopher steele verified.

tick tock... mueller is on the job.

 

[dcbl]

sorry dude- but being complacent about russian election interference

This is patently ridiculous

Foreign nations have always done what the Russians are accused of, hell, the Russians have been trying to undermine is since at least the 1950s and probably the late 40s

Yhe notion that Trump was complicit in colliding with them is stupid

Investigations of him are a farce and proof of corruption within our system in trying to support the existing power syructure; especially with Clinton being protected when everyone knows she committed felonies worse than what others have been jailed for

 

[playtime]

sorry dude- but being complacent about russian election interference

This is patently ridiculous

Foreign nations have always done what the Russians are accused of, hell, the Russians have been trying to undermine is since at least the 1950s and probably the late 40s

Yhe notion that Trump was complicit in colliding with them is stupid

Investigations of him are a farce and proof of corruption within our system in trying to support the existing power syructure; especially with Clinton being protected when everyone knows she committed felonies worse than what others have been jailed for

 

[The Original Tree]

Mitch McConnel is a piece of shit. Some things he allows simple majorities and others he asks for 60 votes on like this latest abortion bill.

 

[shockedcanadian]

sorry dude- but being complacent about russian election interference

This is patently ridiculous

Foreign nations have always done what the Russians are accused of, hell, the Russians have been trying to undermine is since at least the 1950s and probably the late 40s

Yhe notion that Trump was complicit in colliding with them is stupid

Investigations of him are a farce and proof of corruption within our system in trying to support the existing power syructure; especially with Clinton being protected when everyone knows she committed felonies worse than what others have been jailed for

EVERY country tries to influence elections, and if they don't, it's because they are indifferent. Russia, China and others are spying on the U.S government right now, and I hope vice versa. This is why if you don't take an even handed approach and try to clean up all abuses from all foreign actors. If you chase rabbits as Canadian apparatuses do in Canada against so-called "threats" (such as myself for instance) they not only overlook real threats, but they create worse problems with fake threats who decide to counter punch.

If Trump is guilty of something, the investigation never goes away, the CIA and FBI will make sure of that. However, it cannot be this witch hunt which seems to be designed to protect the former administration and to undermine the power of the legitimately elected president.

 

[tycho1572]

Trump is slowly winning the support of both houses.

Some democrats are starting to get behind Trump because of the stupidity and ignorance they’re seeing from other democrats.

 

[tycho1572]

The others are getting behind him because they know he’s on the right path.

 

[busybee01]

loyalty to a man is not what this country is all about. something the (R) traitors have forgotten.

Or the D traitors all through the Obama years.

sorry dude- but being complacent about russian election interference & some even actively trying to shut down investigations because they aren't done with their agenda yet is a whole new level of what being a 'traitor' is to the USA. (D)s aren't even close to that.

Nothing complacent about it. The Russians did not interfere with our elections. The investigation is based on a false narrative that has been proven to not exist and now goes forward for purely political, not patriotic, reasons.

The Russians did and have continued to interfere. Russian bots on twitter have been using #Releasethememo and #Shumershutdown. Mike Pence agrees with out intelligence agencies that Russia did interfere. You are the one who is unpatriotic. Putting Trump above the country.

 

[busybee01]

Paul Ryan is a good egg. Not so much McConnell. He's a POS.

Paul Ryan is a crook. He feathered his nest in the tax bill by including a provision he personally benefitted from.

 

[Darkwind]

loyalty to a man is not what this country is all about. something the (R) traitors have forgotten.

Or the D traitors all through the Obama years.

sorry dude- but being complacent about russian election interference & some even actively trying to shut down investigations because they aren't done with their agenda yet is a whole new level of what being a 'traitor' is to the USA. (D)s aren't even close to that.

Nothing complacent about it. The Russians did not interfere with our elections. The investigation is based on a false narrative that has been proven to not exist and now goes forward for purely political, not patriotic, reasons.

The Russians did and have continued to interfere. Russian bots on twitter have been using #Releasethememo and #Shumershutdown. Mike Pence agrees with out intelligence agencies that Russia did interfere. You are the one who is unpatriotic. Putting Trump above the country.

Yada, yada. I have no time for your conspiracies.

Get back to Me when you find a single vote that was changed by Russia.