Is JD Vance a Saul who became a Paul?

[rampart]

Again... you seem to be in favor of "style" versus "substance" which frankly illustrates the artificiality of
some people. Looking at the majority of voters as JD Vance said in a NYTimes quote below.
"Substance" over "style". As I've frequently said.."I personally don't like Trump his style of narcissism, bragging, etc. but I like Vance and a growing number of voters are looking at the results.
Inflation average under Trump:1.03% Biden: 2020-2023 4.6% nearly 3.5 times increase under Biden!
"Substance over Style"!!!
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what you say seems true. under trump's purported style there is no substance. it is all bluster and bullshit.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Probably most of you aren't aware of this history much less how it relates to JD VANCE!
Paul was known as Saul and was "a Pharisee of Pharisees", who "intensely persecuted" the followers of Jesus.

Conversion of Paul the Apostle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

JD Vance hated Trump.
Some earlier statements I'm 100% sure you've heard from the biased MSM trying to tear Vance and Trump down!
To me and a growing number of supporters, this is a great example of logic overcoming emotional decisions.

JD Vance, Trump’s VP pick, once called him a ‘moral disaster,’ and possibly ‘America’s Hitler’​

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/kfile-jd-vance-comments-trump/index.html

J.D. Vance’s journey from a ‘Never Trump’ guy to Trump’s VP pick​

“I can’t stomach Trump,” Vance told NPR that August. “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy. I never liked him,” Vance told Charlie Rose in October 2016, weeks before Trump was elected president.

So what caused the Saul-to-Paul-like conversion?
The author of the best-selling “Hillbilly Elegy” and movie— which depicted Vance’s childhood in a steel mill community in Ohio in a family beset by drug addiction and poverty — became compulsory reading for many seeking to understand Trump’s appeal to the White working-class voters who had helped install him in the Oval Office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/15/jd-vance-vp-pick-trump/

Now Vance pretty well sums up why he changed along with a 100% on target for the cause of Trump's popularity.
JD Vance: “The problem is if you take that attitude as sort of gloating … then you’re playing into the very thing that gave rise to Trump in the first place, which is a feeling that the elites think that they are smarter than you and just think you’re a bunch of idiots,” Vance said then.

Just to summarize Vance's biography...
1. Born in a poverty where his Dad left the family, his Mom was a drug addict and Vance was raised by his grandmother.
2. Joined Marines went on to serve our nation in the Iraq War,
3. Graduated from The Ohio State University and Yale Law School.
4. He wrote a bestselling book, Hillbilly Elegy, which was turned into a Netflix movie.
5. He also started a business dedicated to growing jobs and opportunity in the American heartland.

About JD Vance - J.D. Vance

JD Vance is a United States Senator for the great state of Ohio. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2022 and sworn into office on January 3rd, 2023 JD was born and raised in Middletown, Ohio, a once flourishing American manufacturing town where Ohioans could live content, middle-class lives on...

www.vance.senate.gov

So what changed Vance from a "Saul-like" to a "Paul-like" ?
Watch this clip and you'll see this quote:

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Substance over Style!
The point being I just like Vance can't stand a lot of Trump's STYLE characteristics.. i.e. braggart. Narcissistic. etc... i.e.
STYLE!!! It's Trump's SUBSTANCE that I like him and support him!
Now many of you TDS people informed by an extremely BIASED MSM that donated 96% to Hillary in 2016 and 90% to Biden in 2020, while they accentuated the COVID-19 especially stupid comments like "Trump says drink Bleach"!!!
All to defeat Trump in 2020 with still unresolved junk mail voting due to what? COVID again a tool used against Trump.
All of that is in the past. Let's move on to the substance of Trump and now Vance...the next generation!
The benefits of this Trump/Vance ticket are "SUBSTANTIAL"... NOT "STYLISTIC"! We need people that we may not like "style-wise" but people like the soldiers use to say..
."You talk the talk,... do you walk the walk"?

You people make threads like this and then whine when we call you a cult!

What the fuck dude.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I find humor in finding biblical parallels in the activities of the lowest of the low - politicians and politics.

Thank you....this is getting out of hand...and then they wonder why they are called a cult

 

[healthmyths]

You people make threads like this and then whine when we call you a cult!

What the fuck dude.

What is this thread LIKE? Is it a false thread? Hmmm... I've provided links to prove my statements.
Where is this a "cult" thread? Again... do you actually see the web pages I submit as proof?

Of course you don't because you are evidently part of the cult that "STYLE" is more important than "SUBSTANCE"! Right...
You think a President should just kiss babies... make assine speeches... i.e. "STYLE" rather than substance.
Tell me how much money from offshore accounts did Biden bring into the USA taxable money from companies with overseas money? ZERO!

U.S. companies have repatriated $1 trillion since tax overhaul

That's still short of the $4 trillion in overseas profits that President Trump would return as a result of the 2017 tax law.

www.latimes.com

U.S. companies have repatriated $1 trillion since tax overhaul​

As a result of Trump's "SUBSTANCE" the CBO projects..

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What is this thread LIKE? Is it a false thread? Hmmm... I've provided links to prove my statements.
Where is this a "cult" thread? Again... do you actually see the web pages I submit as proof?

You provided links proving JD Vance is the same as Paul from the Bible?



You cult member are so much damn fun.

 

[healthmyths]

He's the exact opposite.

JD Vance sold his soul to the Antichrist.

“Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it." - JD Vance

Thanks! Another proof that Vance completely understands the concept of "STYLE" versus "SUBSTANCE"! Vance now knows the style of Trump doesn't match the style of ineffective Biden.
I mean do you think Vance today would support this truly dumb ass comment from "stylish" Biden?
Biden:"I would, in fact, make sure that there is, we immediate surge to the border, "

 

[Mac1958]

No, he's just another hypocritical GQPer who shamelessly sold his soul to an orange con man.

Dime a dozen at this point.

 

[Mac1958]

You provided links proving JD Vance is the same as Paul from the Bible?



You cult member are so much damn fun.

This is biblical for many of them.

Incredible.

 

[Lastamender]

He's the exact opposite.

JD Vance sold his soul to the Antichrist.

“Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it." - JD Vance

You guys are fucked!

 

[Lastamender]

No, he's just another hypocritical GQPer who shamelessly sold his soul to an orange con man.

Dime a dozen at this point.

Something you are more than familiar with. Hack.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Thanks! Another proof that Vance completely understands the concept of "STYLE" versus "SUBSTANCE"! Vance now knows the style of Trump doesn't match the style of ineffective Biden.
I mean do you think Vance today would support this truly dumb ass comment from "stylish" Biden?
Biden:"I would, in fact, make sure that there is, we immediate surge to the border, "

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The interesting thing about these numbers is this...

Had COVID not slowed illegal immigration and it had keeping the same rate of growth as Trump's first 3 years, 2020 would have seen 1,504,638 crossings, which is pretty close to what we saw in 2021. Keeping the same rate of growth that Trump had his first 3 years 2023 would have seen 3,127,415 crossings...again pretty close to what we got.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This is biblical for many of them.

Incredible.

But they are not a cult.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Probably most of you aren't aware of this history much less how it relates to JD VANCE!
Paul was known as Saul and was "a Pharisee of Pharisees", who "intensely persecuted" the followers of Jesus.

Conversion of Paul the Apostle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

JD Vance hated Trump.
Some earlier statements I'm 100% sure you've heard from the biased MSM trying to tear Vance and Trump down!
To me and a growing number of supporters, this is a great example of logic overcoming emotional decisions.

JD Vance, Trump’s VP pick, once called him a ‘moral disaster,’ and possibly ‘America’s Hitler’​

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/kfile-jd-vance-comments-trump/index.html

J.D. Vance’s journey from a ‘Never Trump’ guy to Trump’s VP pick​

“I can’t stomach Trump,” Vance told NPR that August. “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy. I never liked him,” Vance told Charlie Rose in October 2016, weeks before Trump was elected president.

So what caused the Saul-to-Paul-like conversion?
The author of the best-selling “Hillbilly Elegy” and movie— which depicted Vance’s childhood in a steel mill community in Ohio in a family beset by drug addiction and poverty — became compulsory reading for many seeking to understand Trump’s appeal to the White working-class voters who had helped install him in the Oval Office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/15/jd-vance-vp-pick-trump/

Now Vance pretty well sums up why he changed along with a 100% on target for the cause of Trump's popularity.
JD Vance: “The problem is if you take that attitude as sort of gloating … then you’re playing into the very thing that gave rise to Trump in the first place, which is a feeling that the elites think that they are smarter than you and just think you’re a bunch of idiots,” Vance said then.

Just to summarize Vance's biography...
1. Born in a poverty where his Dad left the family, his Mom was a drug addict and Vance was raised by his grandmother.
2. Joined Marines went on to serve our nation in the Iraq War,
3. Graduated from The Ohio State University and Yale Law School.
4. He wrote a bestselling book, Hillbilly Elegy, which was turned into a Netflix movie.
5. He also started a business dedicated to growing jobs and opportunity in the American heartland.

About JD Vance - J.D. Vance

JD Vance is a United States Senator for the great state of Ohio. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2022 and sworn into office on January 3rd, 2023 JD was born and raised in Middletown, Ohio, a once flourishing American manufacturing town where Ohioans could live content, middle-class lives on...

www.vance.senate.gov

So what changed Vance from a "Saul-like" to a "Paul-like" ?
Watch this clip and you'll see this quote:

View attachment 978827

Substance over Style!
The point being I just like Vance can't stand a lot of Trump's STYLE characteristics.. i.e. braggart. Narcissistic. etc... i.e.
STYLE!!! It's Trump's SUBSTANCE that I like him and support him!
Now many of you TDS people informed by an extremely BIASED MSM that donated 96% to Hillary in 2016 and 90% to Biden in 2020, while they accentuated the COVID-19 especially stupid comments like "Trump says drink Bleach"!!!
All to defeat Trump in 2020 with still unresolved junk mail voting due to what? COVID again a tool used against Trump.
All of that is in the past. Let's move on to the substance of Trump and now Vance...the next generation!
The benefits of this Trump/Vance ticket are "SUBSTANTIAL"... NOT "STYLISTIC"! We need people that we may not like "style-wise" but people like the soldiers use to say..
."You talk the talk,... do you walk the walk"?

You are a hypocrite. Vance is a placeholder. Nothing more.

 

[Lastamender]

The interesting thing about these numbers is this...

Had COVID not slowed illegal immigration and it had keeping the same rate of growth as Trump's first 3 years, 2020 would have seen 1,504,638 crossings, which is pretty close to what we saw in 2021. Keeping the same rate of growth that Trump had his first 3 years 2023 would have seen 3,127,415 crossings...again pretty close to what we got.

Why don't you include the number Trump deported?

 

[Lastamender]

You are a hypocrite. Vance is a placeholder. Nothing more.

Vance is president in '28 and likely '32. He can serve both terms before he hits age 52.

 

[Billiejeens]

If pointing out Vance's hypocrisy tears him down, so be it. But I do understand your discomfort with being reminded what JD and so many other Repubs said about trump before they realized just how pathetically gullible rank and file Repubs are.

Vance has made it very clear that the actions that President Trump took during that Presidency, Proved him wrong.

Your echo chamber will not allow that to be accepted, that is your lose.

 

[healthmyths]

what you say seems true. under trump's purported style there is no substance. it is all bluster and bullshit.

You said it...trump's purported style there is no substance. it is all bluster and bullshit."
"purported"... so tell me if these are "style" or "substance"

Fact check: President Donald Trump donates his salary, but he still makes money​

Fact check: President Donald Trump donates his salary, but he still makes money

Social media claims that President Donald Trump works for no money are not totally accurate.

www.usatoday.com

Now I'm old enough to have the last president to do that...JFK in 1961-1963... BUT THE difference
is no MSM reported "

President John Kennedy donates his salary, but he still makes money​

There was no mention that JFK was making money from his family's ownership of real estate worth

John F. Kennedy Net Worth $100 Million​

John F. Kennedy Net Worth

What is John F. Kennedy's net worth?

www.celebritynetworth.com

Trump is Republican so MSM hates him. JFK democrat and no mentions of his families wealth.
This is just ONE example of how the MSM has biased YOUR thinking about Trump as I've shown!
FACTs are the below and is it no wonder that
ABC,CBS,NBC donated nearly in 2020
“From June 1 through July 31, the ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts focused 512 minutes of airtime on the President, or nine times more than the 58 minutes allotted to Biden,” it continued.
During these two months, our analysts documented 668 evaluative statements about the President, 95% of which (634) were negative, vs. a mere 5% (34) that were positive.”
In contrast, 67% of the evaluative statements about Mr. Biden are positive.

Broadcast coverage of Trump 95% negative, according to new study

Negative press coverage of President Trump has worsened. Since 2016, previous studies from analysts at the Media Research Center revealed that press coverage of Mr. Trump on major broadcast networks was 91% negative. It has gotten worse. A new study released Monday found that the coverage is now...

www.washingtontimes.com

512 minutes equals 1,024 (30 second commercial. A 30-second ad during NBC’s “Sunday Night Football” costs around $882,000 in 2024.) Everything You Need to Know About TV Advertising Costs (2024)
or total of nearly $1,000,000,000 in negative commercials against Trump!

 

[Billiejeens]

Why don't you include the number Trump deported?

Harpo is lame troolo

 

[healthmyths]

No, he's just another hypocritical GQPer who shamelessly sold his soul to an orange con man.

Dime a dozen at this point.

Style over substance right?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Vance is president in '28 and likely '32. He can serve both terms before he hits age 52.

He can also do none of that.