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Trump will use his Bully Pulpit...extensively.It's a serious question.
Illegal immigration has been a driving factor for his most fervent supporters, and much of their anger towards the Republican establishment has come from the GOP's willingness to cut a deal on immigration reform.
So if Trump changes his mind on the wall, what happens?
Trump will just say ........ I tried but they don't let me............ Now it's up to him to prove complete his promises.
And you damn well know it.
NOPE. Because illegal immigration happens at the airport.
Last year alone about 482k over stay and violated their visa. This not a joke.
The idea that murderous thieves can enter though the window is no reason to not lock the door.
But you knew that.
YOu are just playing silly sophist games.
NOPE. Because illegal immigration happens at the airport.
Last year alone about 482k over stay and violated their visa. This not a joke.
The idea that murderous thieves can enter though the window is no reason to not lock the door.
But you knew that.
YOu are just playing silly sophist games.
But paying millions of dollars for a door, for them to then enter through the window is crazy. Why not spend enough on the door and the windows together?
NOPE. Because illegal immigration happens at the airport.
Last year alone about 482k over stay and violated their visa. This not a joke.
The idea that murderous thieves can enter though the window is no reason to not lock the door.
But you knew that.
YOu are just playing silly sophist games.
All 20+ millions?
Wrong.............. I am not a sophista nor play games. What I post are the reality. You are so fascinated with our borders to the south but you are neglecting to realize who are the biggest culprit.
Illegal immigrants who overstay visas almost never caught, feds admit
Immigration agents catch an abysmally small percentage of the illegal immigrants who arrived on visas but overstayed their welcome, authorities admitted to Congress Tuesday, describing a loophole that those around the globe are increasingly using to gain a foothold in the U.S.
At least 480,000 people overstayed their visas last year, adding to a backlog that’s reached some 5 million total, members of Congress said. But immigration agents launched investigations into just 10,000 of them, or about 0.2 percent, and arrested fewer than 2,000, less than 0.04 percent, saying the others don’t rise to the level of being priority targets.
NOPE. Because illegal immigration happens at the airport.
Last year alone about 482k over stay and violated their visa. This not a joke.
The idea that murderous thieves can enter though the window is no reason to not lock the door.
But you knew that.
YOu are just playing silly sophist games.
But paying millions of dollars for a door, for them to then enter through the window is crazy. Why not spend enough on the door and the windows together?
It is not credible that you are unaware that Trump has policies posted to deal with the "window".
You are dishonestly trying to attack a strong part of a better immigration policy that would be good for America.
Because of dishonest people like you, we never had a real nuanced and in depth, in detail discussion on the issue, AND NEVER CAN.
WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING AND DO IT NOW!!!
NOPE. Because illegal immigration happens at the airport.
Last year alone about 482k over stay and violated their visa. This not a joke.
The idea that murderous thieves can enter though the window is no reason to not lock the door.
But you knew that.
YOu are just playing silly sophist games.
But paying millions of dollars for a door, for them to then enter through the window is crazy. Why not spend enough on the door and the windows together?
It is not credible that you are unaware that Trump has policies posted to deal with the "window".
You are dishonestly trying to attack a strong part of a better immigration policy that would be good for America.
Because of dishonest people like you, we never had a real nuanced and in depth, in detail discussion on the issue, AND NEVER CAN.
WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING AND DO IT NOW!!!
Trump has policies? Last I heard he had "suggestions" and "suggestions" were changeable based on the last person he spoke to.
I'm attacking a policy because it isn't a policy, it's a "suggestion", and there doesn't seem to be much credibility to it.
I had a discussion on the wall months ago and used Israel's "wall" as an example.
It's not a wall, 90% of it isn't a wall, the rest is there to stop snipers. A wall is expensive, not only in building costs but in up keep costs. In the modern world a wall isn't necessary, we're not in the Middle Ages, we have technology that can do the job far better than a wall can.
The Wall, 10 years on: The great Israeli project | +972 Magazine
Israel's wall is on a 320 km border. It cost (so far) $2.6 billion. It costs $260 million a year in maintenance.
The US border is 3,201 km long, 10 times that of the Israeli border. So, even a fence like Israel's would cost perhaps $26 billion, plus cost $2.6 billion a year in maintenance.
Change this to a wall and what would the costs be? Take in other factors and perhaps you're getting rising costs all the way.
Wow, because of me there's never been a deep discussion. Fuck off, I'm one of the few people who have had an in depth discussion. Have you had one? Probably not. Has Trump had one? No fucking way. Don't come attack me when you're sitting in a glass house.
Last year alone about 482k over stay and violated their visa. This not a joke.
The idea that murderous thieves can enter though the window is no reason to not lock the door.
But you knew that.
YOu are just playing silly sophist games.
But paying millions of dollars for a door, for them to then enter through the window is crazy. Why not spend enough on the door and the windows together?
It is not credible that you are unaware that Trump has policies posted to deal with the "window".
You are dishonestly trying to attack a strong part of a better immigration policy that would be good for America.
Because of dishonest people like you, we never had a real nuanced and in depth, in detail discussion on the issue, AND NEVER CAN.
WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING AND DO IT NOW!!!
Trump has policies? Last I heard he had "suggestions" and "suggestions" were changeable based on the last person he spoke to.
That talking point has exceeded it's expiration date.
I'm attacking a policy because it isn't a policy, it's a "suggestion", and there doesn't seem to be much credibility to it.
Plenty of details on his web site. And a lot of them will be very easily implemented.
I had a discussion on the wall months ago and used Israel's "wall" as an example.
It's not a wall, 90% of it isn't a wall, the rest is there to stop snipers. A wall is expensive, not only in building costs but in up keep costs. In the modern world a wall isn't necessary, we're not in the Middle Ages, we have technology that can do the job far better than a wall can.
Generations of failure prove otherwise.
The Wall, 10 years on: The great Israeli project | +972 Magazine
Israel's wall is on a 320 km border. It cost (so far) $2.6 billion. It costs $260 million a year in maintenance.
The US border is 3,201 km long, 10 times that of the Israeli border. So, even a fence like Israel's would cost perhaps $26 billion, plus cost $2.6 billion a year in maintenance.
Change this to a wall and what would the costs be? Take in other factors and perhaps you're getting rising costs all the way.
If it gets to be too much, I will support letting Mexico only pay for a portion of it. Beyond that, our budget is heading for 4 trillion a year. Take all the money going to sanctuary cities and use for the Wall if it comes to that.
Wow, because of me there's never been a deep discussion. Fuck off, I'm one of the few people who have had an in depth discussion. Have you had one? Probably not. Has Trump had one? No fucking way. Don't come attack me when you're sitting in a glass house.
That is one of the ways this problem has been defended by it's proponents.
BUILD THE WALL. DEPORT THE ILLEGALS. SLAM THE EMPLOYERS. DO IT NOW.
The idea that murderous thieves can enter though the window is no reason to not lock the door.
But you knew that.
YOu are just playing silly sophist games.
But paying millions of dollars for a door, for them to then enter through the window is crazy. Why not spend enough on the door and the windows together?
It is not credible that you are unaware that Trump has policies posted to deal with the "window".
You are dishonestly trying to attack a strong part of a better immigration policy that would be good for America.
Because of dishonest people like you, we never had a real nuanced and in depth, in detail discussion on the issue, AND NEVER CAN.
WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING AND DO IT NOW!!!
Trump has policies? Last I heard he had "suggestions" and "suggestions" were changeable based on the last person he spoke to.
That talking point has exceeded it's expiration date.
I'm attacking a policy because it isn't a policy, it's a "suggestion", and there doesn't seem to be much credibility to it.
Plenty of details on his web site. And a lot of them will be very easily implemented.
I had a discussion on the wall months ago and used Israel's "wall" as an example.
It's not a wall, 90% of it isn't a wall, the rest is there to stop snipers. A wall is expensive, not only in building costs but in up keep costs. In the modern world a wall isn't necessary, we're not in the Middle Ages, we have technology that can do the job far better than a wall can.
Generations of failure prove otherwise.
The Wall, 10 years on: The great Israeli project | +972 Magazine
Israel's wall is on a 320 km border. It cost (so far) $2.6 billion. It costs $260 million a year in maintenance.
The US border is 3,201 km long, 10 times that of the Israeli border. So, even a fence like Israel's would cost perhaps $26 billion, plus cost $2.6 billion a year in maintenance.
Change this to a wall and what would the costs be? Take in other factors and perhaps you're getting rising costs all the way.
If it gets to be too much, I will support letting Mexico only pay for a portion of it. Beyond that, our budget is heading for 4 trillion a year. Take all the money going to sanctuary cities and use for the Wall if it comes to that.
Wow, because of me there's never been a deep discussion. Fuck off, I'm one of the few people who have had an in depth discussion. Have you had one? Probably not. Has Trump had one? No fucking way. Don't come attack me when you're sitting in a glass house.
That is one of the ways this problem has been defended by it's proponents.
BUILD THE WALL. DEPORT THE ILLEGALS. SLAM THE EMPLOYERS. DO IT NOW.
Saying that a talking point has reached its expiry date is simply telling me you can't be bothered to debate. Fine. Here's what no debate looks like.
Dr. [Ben] Carson, an adviser who talks to Mr. Trump, said he didn’t expect the next president to build a wall on the Mexican border, a signature promise of the campaign. “What he really wants to do is secure the border,” he said. “And there are a variety of ways of doing that. And we’re going to make sure that that gets done. So you can rest assured that those principles will be followed, but it may not necessarily be the exact letter”
Donald Trump’s Transition Team Reshaped
If he does secure the border, it will be more than any previous president has ever done.Dr. [Ben] Carson, an adviser who talks to Mr. Trump, said he didn’t expect the next president to build a wall on the Mexican border, a signature promise of the campaign. “What he really wants to do is secure the border,” he said. “And there are a variety of ways of doing that. And we’re going to make sure that that gets done. So you can rest assured that those principles will be followed, but it may not necessarily be the exact letter”
Donald Trump’s Transition Team Reshaped
It seems like Trump has been walking back from many of the things he's been saying over the past few months - from punishing women who have abortions to minimum wages to taxes to banning Muslims. Everything is a starting point for negotiations. And his supporters are all fine with that, it appears.
But what about the wall?
If Trump says the wall is negotiable, what will be the reaction of his most diehard supporters? Will they still say its OK because everything is negotiable?
It seems like Trump has been walking back from many of the things he's been saying over the past few months - from punishing women who have abortions to minimum wages to taxes to banning Muslims. Everything is a starting point for negotiations. And his supporters are all fine with that, it appears.
But what about the wall?
If Trump says the wall is negotiable, what will be the reaction of his most diehard supporters? Will they still say its OK because everything is negotiable?
It seems like Trump has been walking back from many of the things he's been saying over the past few months - from punishing women who have abortions to minimum wages to taxes to banning Muslims. Everything is a starting point for negotiations. And his supporters are all fine with that, it appears.
But what about the wall?
If Trump says the wall is negotiable, what will be the reaction of his most diehard supporters? Will they still say its OK because everything is negotiable?
I find the willingness to negotiate a balanced solution to America's problems refreshing..
Trump's pretty well walking back what the left wing news sources over inflated in the first place, punishing women more than they already are or banning all muslims ... only the left wing media and their true believers fell for that crap.
It seems like Trump has been walking back from many of the things he's been saying over the past few months - from punishing women who have abortions to minimum wages to taxes to banning Muslims. Everything is a starting point for negotiations. And his supporters are all fine with that, it appears.
But what about the wall?
If Trump says the wall is negotiable, what will be the reaction of his most diehard supporters? Will they still say its OK because everything is negotiable?
Try reading the 2007 Secure Fence Act. The Stablishment signed into law a commitment to 700 miles of double fence barriers across the border.WOW, you wall people started out sensible, increased border security, maybe wall. Trump said wall, OK, you supported him on that no problem. then people started to worry about costs and other problems created by a total wall the full length of our border. Trump said NO, I WANT MY WALL. & nothing less. people said can we modify this? Trump said NO NO NO, I want my wall don't care what it costs don't care will send military, will shut down the government, want MY wall. my people will back me till it gets done.
Problem, its all of Americas wall. any cost any problems it creates become all Americans wall. think the largest part of us are in favor of border security, but not shoot from the hip demands, lacking a clear defined plan forward.
