Israel: Serial Terror-Bomber

[Mindful]

That kind of rage will spike your blood pressure.

I suppose you see nothing wrong with his posts?

You suppose right.

You, on the other hand...,,,,,

 

[Daniyel]

Oh right, the slight disenchantment of annihilating Israel and liberating Palestine by all means necessary is definitely why Hamas appealed to the Palestinians overy Fatah and the PIJ, the only difference which you thankfully pointed out is that Hamas does not agree for any short term recognition of Israel and Fatah does.
Now before you hump into false comparisons (again) let's discuss something you can provide answers and we can continue this debate like grownups, check my previous questions.

That is not true. They voted for Hamas because they were less corrupt than the PA and were more concerned with the Palestinian's interests.

Be whatever reason they did - and I also agree with you on this one - they knew Hamas and their intentions - regardless the PA corruption the first thing (should?) interest someone is above all the sake of his/her loved ones - it's not like they didn't know who they are and obviously if anyone can reach anything it's more likely to be the PA over Hamas and the PIJ and whatever level of corruption it's irrational to prioritize an insignificant issue such as corruption over the sake of the people in Gaza which is first of all to NOT put them in risk - if that's not a Palestinian interest only then it should be rational to vote for Hamas..so it's clear the Palestinians knew exactly what Hamas intentions are and they knew there will be consequences with Israel(let's put economic and other irrelevant subjects aside) and they decided that's best for them.
Maybe you can provide me an answer for my earlier questions?

 

[Roudy]

That kind of rage will spike your blood pressure.

I suppose you see nothing wrong with his posts?

I suppose bigmouth Internet tough guy is now going to whine for us? Ha ha ha.

 

[Phoenall]

Oh right, the slight disenchantment of annihilating Israel and liberating Palestine by all means necessary is definitely why Hamas appealed to the Palestinians overy Fatah and the PIJ, the only difference which you thankfully pointed out is that Hamas does not agree for any short term recognition of Israel and Fatah does.
Now before you hump into false comparisons (again) let's discuss something you can provide answers and we can continue this debate like grownups, check my previous questions.

That is not true. They voted for Hamas because they were less corrupt than the PA and were more concerned with the Palestinian's interests.

And turned out worse than fatah and the PLO combined, and they offered a free Kalashnikov with every 100 votes

 

[Phoenall]

Are you a Palestinian citizen?

Then it's none of your fucking business too!

And unless you are a Palestinian citizen what Israel does is none of your business either is it

 

[fanger]

Flashback, unless you are a South African Black what RSA does is none of your business either is it, we ended Apartheid in south Africa, and we will end Jewish Apartheid in Palestine, I hope you stay alive long enough to see it Phoney cough, cough, wheez

 

[Mindful]

Flashback, unless you are a South African Black what RSA does is none of your business either is it, we ended Apartheid in south Africa, and we will end Jewish Apartheid in Palestine, I hope you stay alive long enough to see it Phoney cough, cough, wheez

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[SAYIT]

Flashback, unless you are a South African Black what RSA does is none of your business either is it, we ended Apartheid in south Africa, and we will end Jewish Apartheid in Palestine...

In order to end "Jewish Apartheid in Palestine" you must first start it.
Go get 'em, Tigger.

 

[Roudy]

Flashback, unless you are a South African Black what RSA does is none of your business either is it, we ended Apartheid in south Africa, and we will end Jewish Apartheid in Palestine, I hope you stay alive long enough to see it Phoney cough, cough, wheez

Who's we? You and the rest of your IslamoNazi farter goozo friends?

 

[Daniyel]

Flashback, unless you are a South African Black what RSA does is none of your business either is it, we ended Apartheid in south Africa, and we will end Jewish Apartheid in Palestine, I hope you stay alive long enough to see it Phoney cough, cough, wheez

Who's we? You and the rest of your IslamoNazi farter goozo friends?

It's the Racistio Circus, the clowns in town folks!

 

[Humanity]

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!

You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?

You still don't see the entire picture and this is why you can't make any comparison before you understand the entire picture which is why I'm walking you step by step on the responsibility for 'Protective Edge' and the situation in Gaza, so back to the subject - the Palestinians were fully responsible for Hamas - and they knew Hamas will attempt to attack Israel and they wanted their piece in it which is why they (most of them) elected Hamas - to attack Israel, if you do not agree lets go a little back, in case you do - I'd like to know again why are you not supporting Hamas if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas?
Another question, if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas, why are you still claiming they are the oppressed or that they have the right to attack civilians and Israel doesn't?
Take your time.

hahahaha...

Don't be a patronizing prick Daniyel...

The "picture" that you don't see is that every democratic country has the right to vote in a government... Whoever they choose... A 'free' choice...

Somewhere down the line the people may get a little disenchanted with their choice and not agree with their government... The people then have the right to change their mind and vote the party out at the next election...

Thats how people are, how democracy works...

So, every German a Nazi Daniyel?

Oh right, the slight disenchantment of annihilating Israel and liberating Palestine by all means necessary is definitely why Hamas appealed to the Palestinians overy Fatah and the PIJ, the only difference which you thankfully pointed out is that Hamas does not agree for any short term recognition of Israel and Fatah does.
Now before you hump into false comparisons (again) let's discuss something you can provide answers and we can continue this debate like grownups, check my previous questions.

There is no " false comparison"...

It's simply your inability to see beyond your victimhood...

Jews now have a homeland, rightly so, so how about allowing the Palestinians a homeland?

There are too many 'deflections', not only on this board, that simply puts hurdles in the way of a peaceful solution.

 

[Humanity]

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!

You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?

You still don't see the entire picture and this is why you can't make any comparison before you understand the entire picture which is why I'm walking you step by step on the responsibility for 'Protective Edge' and the situation in Gaza, so back to the subject - the Palestinians were fully responsible for Hamas - and they knew Hamas will attempt to attack Israel and they wanted their piece in it which is why they (most of them) elected Hamas - to attack Israel, if you do not agree lets go a little back, in case you do - I'd like to know again why are you not supporting Hamas if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas?
Another question, if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas, why are you still claiming they are the oppressed or that they have the right to attack civilians and Israel doesn't?
Take your time.

hahahaha...

Don't be a patronizing prick Daniyel...

The "picture" that you don't see is that every democratic country has the right to vote in a government... Whoever they choose... A 'free' choice...

Somewhere down the line the people may get a little disenchanted with their choice and not agree with their government... The people then have the right to change their mind and vote the party out at the next election...

Thats how people are, how democracy works...

So, every German a Nazi Daniyel?

So when are the dictators now ruling in Palestine going to hold the next elections, if ever..................

So every dickhead a Jew hater inhumanity

Another memorable post Phoney....

Well done

 

[Humanity]

Oh right, the slight disenchantment of annihilating Israel and liberating Palestine by all means necessary is definitely why Hamas appealed to the Palestinians overy Fatah and the PIJ, the only difference which you thankfully pointed out is that Hamas does not agree for any short term recognition of Israel and Fatah does.
Now before you hump into false comparisons (again) let's discuss something you can provide answers and we can continue this debate like grownups, check my previous questions.

That is not true. They voted for Hamas because they were less corrupt than the PA and were more concerned with the Palestinian's interests.

Be whatever reason they did - and I also agree with you on this one - they knew Hamas and their intentions - regardless the PA corruption the first thing (should?) interest someone is above all the sake of his/her loved ones - it's not like they didn't know who they are and obviously if anyone can reach anything it's more likely to be the PA over Hamas and the PIJ and whatever level of corruption it's irrational to prioritize an insignificant issue such as corruption over the sake of the people in Gaza which is first of all to NOT put them in risk - if that's not a Palestinian interest only then it should be rational to vote for Hamas..so it's clear the Palestinians knew exactly what Hamas intentions are and they knew there will be consequences with Israel(let's put economic and other irrelevant subjects aside) and they decided that's best for them.
Maybe you can provide me an answer for my earlier questions?

Some things are not always black and white...

Basing your argument simply on the Hamas Charter does not give a clear and balanced view of why Hamas were elected in the first place!

Why Hamas Won CounterPunch Tells the Facts Names the Names

 

[Billo_Really]

Be whatever reason they did - and I also agree with you on this one - they knew Hamas and their intentions - regardless the PA corruption the first thing (should?) interest someone is above all the sake of his/her loved ones - it's not like they didn't know who they are and obviously if anyone can reach anything it's more likely to be the PA over Hamas and the PIJ and whatever level of corruption it's irrational to prioritize an insignificant issue such as corruption over the sake of the people in Gaza which is first of all to NOT put them in risk - if that's not a Palestinian interest only then it should be rational to vote for Hamas..so it's clear the Palestinians knew exactly what Hamas intentions are and they knew there will be consequences with Israel(let's put economic and other irrelevant subjects aside) and they decided that's best for them.
Maybe you can provide me an answer for my earlier questions?

Hamas intentions were to become more of a political force, than a militia one.

As the parliamentary election scheduled for January 25, 2006 drew near, Hamas published a manifesto that Western news agencies found remarkable for the absence of mention of any goal to eliminate Israel. Hamas candidate Gazi Hamad said it reflected the group’s position of seeking a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders. He said Hamas would not recognize that Israel had a “right to exist”, but that it was seeking to shift strategies away from armed struggle to engagement in the political process. Palestinian cabinet minister Ghassan Khatib said, “Having Hamas inside the system is a positive development whereby they have to abide by the rules of the majority and respect the arguments of the administration they are part of, which includes a state built on 1967 borders. It will take time but Hamas will no longer have their own militia. It will be solely a political force.”

 

[Phoenall]

Flashback, unless you are a South African Black what RSA does is none of your business either is it, we ended Apartheid in south Africa, and we will end Jewish Apartheid in Palestine, I hope you stay alive long enough to see it Phoney cough, cough, wheez

reported for data mining

 

[Phoenall]

Flashback, unless you are a South African Black what RSA does is none of your business either is it, we ended Apartheid in south Africa, and we will end Jewish Apartheid in Palestine, I hope you stay alive long enough to see it Phoney cough, cough, wheez

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He is being fed by a disgusting troll who thinks it is hilarious that I suffer from COPD and emphysema which means I use oxygen to help me live a normal life,

 

[Phoenall]

You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?

You still don't see the entire picture and this is why you can't make any comparison before you understand the entire picture which is why I'm walking you step by step on the responsibility for 'Protective Edge' and the situation in Gaza, so back to the subject - the Palestinians were fully responsible for Hamas - and they knew Hamas will attempt to attack Israel and they wanted their piece in it which is why they (most of them) elected Hamas - to attack Israel, if you do not agree lets go a little back, in case you do - I'd like to know again why are you not supporting Hamas if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas?
Another question, if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas, why are you still claiming they are the oppressed or that they have the right to attack civilians and Israel doesn't?
Take your time.

hahahaha...

Don't be a patronizing prick Daniyel...

The "picture" that you don't see is that every democratic country has the right to vote in a government... Whoever they choose... A 'free' choice...

Somewhere down the line the people may get a little disenchanted with their choice and not agree with their government... The people then have the right to change their mind and vote the party out at the next election...

Thats how people are, how democracy works...

So, every German a Nazi Daniyel?

Oh right, the slight disenchantment of annihilating Israel and liberating Palestine by all means necessary is definitely why Hamas appealed to the Palestinians overy Fatah and the PIJ, the only difference which you thankfully pointed out is that Hamas does not agree for any short term recognition of Israel and Fatah does.
Now before you hump into false comparisons (again) let's discuss something you can provide answers and we can continue this debate like grownups, check my previous questions.

There is no " false comparison"...

It's simply your inability to see beyond your victimhood...

Jews now have a homeland, rightly so, so how about allowing the Palestinians a homeland?

There are too many 'deflections', not only on this board, that simply puts hurdles in the way of a peaceful solution.

They have one it is called Jordan, or haven't you been keeping up with the events of 1923 when the LoN partitioned Palestine into two parts arab muslim Palestine and Jewish Palestine. From then on the arab muslims had no claims on the land of Jewish Palestine. So the "Palestinians" have their homeland and it is called Jordan, but they screwed up when they tried to depose the rulers and turn it into yet another Islamic state.

 

[Mindful]

Flashback, unless you are a South African Black what RSA does is none of your business either is it, we ended Apartheid in south Africa, and we will end Jewish Apartheid in Palestine, I hope you stay alive long enough to see it Phoney cough, cough, wheez

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He is being fed by a disgusting troll who thinks it is hilarious that I suffer from COPD and emphysema which means I use oxygen to help me live a normal life,

I've seen instances of these lowlife scum infesting the different threads. Who like to use illness, mental and physical, to mock and insult.

Also bereavement.

Not to mention the Jew baiting.

 

[Daniyel]

Oh right, the slight disenchantment of annihilating Israel and liberating Palestine by all means necessary is definitely why Hamas appealed to the Palestinians overy Fatah and the PIJ, the only difference which you thankfully pointed out is that Hamas does not agree for any short term recognition of Israel and Fatah does.
Now before you hump into false comparisons (again) let's discuss something you can provide answers and we can continue this debate like grownups, check my previous questions.

That is not true. They voted for Hamas because they were less corrupt than the PA and were more concerned with the Palestinian's interests.

Be whatever reason they did - and I also agree with you on this one - they knew Hamas and their intentions - regardless the PA corruption the first thing (should?) interest someone is above all the sake of his/her loved ones - it's not like they didn't know who they are and obviously if anyone can reach anything it's more likely to be the PA over Hamas and the PIJ and whatever level of corruption it's irrational to prioritize an insignificant issue such as corruption over the sake of the people in Gaza which is first of all to NOT put them in risk - if that's not a Palestinian interest only then it should be rational to vote for Hamas..so it's clear the Palestinians knew exactly what Hamas intentions are and they knew there will be consequences with Israel(let's put economic and other irrelevant subjects aside) and they decided that's best for them.
Maybe you can provide me an answer for my earlier questions?

Some things are not always black and white...

Basing your argument simply on the Hamas Charter does not give a clear and balanced view of why Hamas were elected in the first place!

Why Hamas Won CounterPunch Tells the Facts Names the Names

I didn't mean just the Hamas Charter if that doesn't ring a bell,http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...e-only-way-to-ensure-Israels-security-371321- but the militant aggression which is far from being a political behavior and we all know they lie so does anyone here believe Israel would remove the blockade by assaulting Israeli civilians? Neither the Gazans and as I've said before there are way more than just one Palestinian interest that Hamas surly couldn't manage such as economy, education, welfare, and foreign affairs - Hamas intentions were to use military force (to terrorize) it's needs on others trying to make anything by force, that's not even close to ensure the safety of the Gazans, don't you think?

 

[Daniyel]

Be whatever reason they did - and I also agree with you on this one - they knew Hamas and their intentions - regardless the PA corruption the first thing (should?) interest someone is above all the sake of his/her loved ones - it's not like they didn't know who they are and obviously if anyone can reach anything it's more likely to be the PA over Hamas and the PIJ and whatever level of corruption it's irrational to prioritize an insignificant issue such as corruption over the sake of the people in Gaza which is first of all to NOT put them in risk - if that's not a Palestinian interest only then it should be rational to vote for Hamas..so it's clear the Palestinians knew exactly what Hamas intentions are and they knew there will be consequences with Israel(let's put economic and other irrelevant subjects aside) and they decided that's best for them.
Maybe you can provide me an answer for my earlier questions?

Hamas intentions were to become more of a political force, than a militia one.

As the parliamentary election scheduled for January 25, 2006 drew near, Hamas published a manifesto that Western news agencies found remarkable for the absence of mention of any goal to eliminate Israel. Hamas candidate Gazi Hamad said it reflected the group’s position of seeking a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders. He said Hamas would not recognize that Israel had a “right to exist”, but that it was seeking to shift strategies away from armed struggle to engagement in the political process. Palestinian cabinet minister Ghassan Khatib said, “Having Hamas inside the system is a positive development whereby they have to abide by the rules of the majority and respect the arguments of the administration they are part of, which includes a state built on 1967 borders. It will take time but Hamas will no longer have their own militia. It will be solely a political force.”

In 2006 that's lovely words, Hamas were elected and I bet they all will share a good laugh about that manifesto.
a little Iranian fashioned.