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The second amendment doesn't exist to protect our ability to hunt, fakey you dumbass. It exists so we can shoot the worthless cowards who think they can dictate our lifestyle and faith to us, and so we can kill corrupt and criminal officials who try to use weapons against us.We have not banned smoking...only made is socially unacceptable and inconvenient.
Infringing rights doesn't require banning them. Using the law to make something 'unacceptable and inconvenient' counts too.
Social standards change. Not as many people hunt, NRA fear mongering is not as effective
False. You are citing something totally irrelevant to your assertion. The number of Americans that are hunting has nothing to do with opinion on gun control.Doesn't matter...same tactics can be used against bothSmoking isn't a right; owning a gun on other hand...
I can't believe this needs to be explained to people. Wait...yes, I can. lol
Make gun ownership as socially irresponsible as smoking
And I'll fight you every step of the way.
Public opinion is turning against you.....Gun ownership is on the decline
What do you care? You still got your guns don't you?
Doesn't matter...same tactics can be used against bothSmoking isn't a right; owning a gun on other hand...
I can't believe this needs to be explained to people. Wait...yes, I can. lol
Make gun ownership as socially irresponsible as smoking
And I'll fight you every step of the way.
Public opinion is turning against you.....Gun ownership is on the decline
What do you care? You still got your guns don't you?
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
I spent thirty some years in Eastern Oregon, my kids are affiliated with the tribe there. Yes, one of the people shot was a tribal member.You're on the West coast, yes?
Sorry to hear about gangs getting involved out there. Never good news. Neither of the articles you linked me were evidence for your argument, though. Neither the shooter nor the victim that died was a tribal member in Umatilla shooting; they found a man dead on the rez in Pala, but have no idea who the shooter was.Indians are also American citizens. They have the right to bear arms regardless. And rez shootings are quite common. Particularly now the gangs have moved in.The "real Indians" around here have Constitutions that do not incorporate a 2nd amendment. No mention of bearing arms as an individual right. I can't remember the last time there was a shooting on one of the reservations, either. Knives are a lot more common in a fight.Lahkota the fake injun....real Indians defend the second amendment. Native culture is gun culture. Chief liekota wouldn't know about that.
By Dennis A. Henigan
The American people can overcome the gun lobby, but only if we confront, and expose, three myths that have long dominated the gun debate and given the politicians a ready excuse for inaction.
First, we must not let the opponents of reform get away with the empty bromide that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Does any rational person really believe that the Sandy Hook killer could have murdered twenty-seven people in minutes with a knife or a baseball bat? Guns enable people to kill, more effectively and efficiently than any other widely available weapon.
Second, we must challenge the idea that no law can prevent violent people from getting guns. This canard is refuted by the experience of every other western industrialized nation. Their violent crime rates are comparable to ours. But their homicide rates are exponentially lower because their strong gun laws make it harder for violent individuals to get guns.
Third, we must not accept the notion that our Constitution condemns us to the continued slaughter of our children. It is true that the Supreme Court has expanded gun rights in recent years; it is equally true that the Court has insisted that the right allows for reasonable restrictions. In his opinion in the Heller Second Amendment case, Justice Scalia listed restrictions on "dangerous and unusual weapons" among the kinds of gun laws that are still "presumptively lawful." Assault weapons that fire scores of rounds without reloading surely are "dangerous and unusual."
The tobacco control movement overcame some equally powerful mythology to fundamentally alter American attitudes toward tobacco products. The tobacco industry's effort to sow confusion and uncertainty about the link between smoking and disease eventually was exposed as a fraud. The entrenched view that smoking was simply a bad habit that individuals can choose to break was destroyed by evidence that the tobacco companies knew that nicotine was powerfully addictive and engineered their cigarettes to ensure that people got hooked and stayed hooked. The assumption that smoking harms only the smoker was contradicted by the overwhelming evidence of the danger of second-hand smoke.
Once these myths were exposed, attitudes changed, policies changed and we started saving countless lives. Since youth smoking peaked in the mid-1990s, smoking rates have fallen by about three-fourths among 8th graders, two-thirds among 10th graders and half among 12th graders. A sea change has occurred on the tobacco issue.
Similarly fundamental change can come to the gun issue as well. The myths about gun control, however, still have a hold on too many of our political leaders and their constituents. We will hear them repeated again and again in the coming weeks of intense debate. Every time we hear them, we must respond and we must persuade.
There is too much at stake to be silent.
More: Dennis A. Henigan: It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns
You want to talk "gun culture"? Visit St Louis, Baltimore or Chicago. Get rid of the THUG culture and you'll cut gun murders in half, but you don't want to ruffle any Liberal feathers so you avoid the obvious.We got smoking down from 50% to under 20%
Households with guns are down from 50% to 33%
The culture of owning a gun has been diminishing
Yep. And that's a good thing. But we shouldn't let that get encoded into law.
Funny thing is, threatening gun rights actually works against that goal. Gun sales spike every time new legislation is proposed to limit their purchase. If we are secure in our rights to buy guns when needed, we don't need to keep a stockpile. On the other hand, a looming legislative threat provides incentive to buy and stash more guns now, rather than wait until later when they might become outlawed.
Not as many young boys are picking up the gun culture from their fathers. Not as many go hunting, there are not as many gun ranges, fewer places to go out and shoot your guns
Ammunition is becoming expensive. Costs money to go out and fire a couple dozen rounds
Same thing happened to cigarettes. They became more expensive, fewer places to smoke, parents are not passing down their smoking habit
Exercising his Constitutional rights is a citizen's ultimate social responsibility.Doesn't matter...same tactics can be used against bothSmoking isn't a right; owning a gun on other hand...
I can't believe this needs to be explained to people. Wait...yes, I can. lol
Make gun ownership as socially irresponsible as smoking
That is what gun control nuts think is crazy - the idea that they do not get to disregard others constitutionally protected rights.Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
No...they don't. The NRA isn't a wing of the anti gun liberals. What they need to do is just continue taking a stand without flinching but avoid getting involved in stupid inflammatory arguments that make them appear crazy. Simply just say NO to any and all infringements to gun ownership.
Doesn't matter...same tactics can be used against bothSmoking isn't a right; owning a gun on other hand...
I can't believe this needs to be explained to people. Wait...yes, I can. lol
Make gun ownership as socially irresponsible as smoking
And I'll fight you every step of the way.
Public opinion is turning against you.....Gun ownership is on the decline
What do you care? You still got your guns don't you?
Gun ownership is down!?!? Gun ownership has never been higher thanks to Barry. What rock have you been hiding under!?!
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
The second amendment has nothing to do with the social acceptance of gun ownershipThe second amendment doesn't exist to protect our ability to hunt, fakey you dumbass. It exists so we can shoot the worthless cowards who think they can dictate our lifestyle and faith to us, and so we can kill corrupt and criminal officials who try to use weapons against us.We have not banned smoking...only made is socially unacceptable and inconvenient.
Infringing rights doesn't require banning them. Using the law to make something 'unacceptable and inconvenient' counts too.
Social standards change. Not as many people hunt, NRA fear mongering is not as effective
Doesn't matter...same tactics can be used against bothSmoking isn't a right; owning a gun on other hand...
I can't believe this needs to be explained to people. Wait...yes, I can. lol
Make gun ownership as socially irresponsible as smoking
And I'll fight you every step of the way.
Public opinion is turning against you.....Gun ownership is on the decline
What do you care? You still got your guns don't you?
Gun ownership is down!?!? Gun ownership has never been higher thanks to Barry. What rock have you been hiding under!?!
Not in the west...The second amendment has nothing to do with the social acceptance of gun ownershipThe second amendment doesn't exist to protect our ability to hunt, fakey you dumbass. It exists so we can shoot the worthless cowards who think they can dictate our lifestyle and faith to us, and so we can kill corrupt and criminal officials who try to use weapons against us.We have not banned smoking...only made is socially unacceptable and inconvenient.
Infringing rights doesn't require banning them. Using the law to make something 'unacceptable and inconvenient' counts too.
Social standards change. Not as many people hunt, NRA fear mongering is not as effective
Hunting has historically been an entrance point for young males to gain familiarity with guns. As hunting has declined, so has the number of households with guns
Na, ammo is reasonably priced with exception of 22lr and sporting rifles like ar15s have only reduced in price because they can be manufactured most anywhere... DumbassDoesn't matter...same tactics can be used against bothSmoking isn't a right; owning a gun on other hand...
I can't believe this needs to be explained to people. Wait...yes, I can. lol
Make gun ownership as socially irresponsible as smoking
And I'll fight you every step of the way.
Public opinion is turning against you.....Gun ownership is on the decline
What do you care? You still got your guns don't you?
Gun ownership is down!?!? Gun ownership has never been higher thanks to Barry. What rock have you been hiding under!?!
I've already shown where the percent of households with guns is down 15%
Number of guns has increased but that reflects more guns in your gun cabinet, not more homes with guns
As an aside.....paranoia about Obama confiscating guns and ammo has led to hoarding of ammo which has driven up the price and made recreational shooting less attractive
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
No, thanks.
We're thinking "Lock" and "Load"
Doesn't matter...same tactics can be used against bothSmoking isn't a right; owning a gun on other hand...
I can't believe this needs to be explained to people. Wait...yes, I can. lol
Make gun ownership as socially irresponsible as smoking
And I'll fight you every step of the way.
Public opinion is turning against you.....Gun ownership is on the decline
What do you care? You still got your guns don't you?
Gun ownership is down!?!? Gun ownership has never been higher thanks to Barry. What rock have you been hiding under!?!
I've already shown where the percent of households with guns is down 15%
Number of guns has increased but that reflects more guns in your gun cabinet, not more homes with guns
As an aside.....paranoia about Obama confiscating guns and ammo has led to hoarding of ammo which has driven up the price and made recreational shooting less attractive
