Just FYI to the 'Russia Is Evil For Interfering In Our Election' Crowd...

easyt65

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This is NOT an attempt to defend Putin / Russia or justify anything they did...as I said, just 'FYI':

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries

"The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it’s done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.


That number doesn’t include military coups and regime change efforts following the election of candidates the U.S. didn’t like, notably those in Iran, Guatemala and Chile. Nor does it include general assistance with the electoral process, such as election monitoring."

Under President Obama:
- Obama helped oust US ally dictator Mubarak then injected himself into Egypt's election process by demanding Egypt hold their elections early. This benefitted the terrorist group The Muslim Brotherhood because they were the only ones ready for an immediate election so soon after Mubarak's removal.

- Hillary and Obama financed, supplied, armed, trained, defended, and Un-Constitutionally took the country to war to help Al Qaeida - the terrorist group that slaughtered 3,000 Americans - kill / oust Libyan dictator Mommar Qaddafi and take over their own country, DESPITE the fact that Kaddafi had been HELPING the coalition fight terrorists in Northern Africa.

Of course we can not tolerate any foreign nation interfering with our elections...but / so should we doing the same, injecting ourselves into other nations' elections?

- Hillary and Obama financed, supplied, armed, trained, defended, and Un-Constitutionally took the country to war to help ISIS over throw Syrian leader Assad, which the Russians have prevented.

- Obama injected himself into Israeli politics / elections by trying to oust Israel's leader Netenyahu. (Funny, his intervention in the Israeli election resulted in the same type of loss for the candidate he supported as when he injected himself into the 2014 US Mid-term elections and the US 2016 Presidential election.)



I 100% agree that we can not tolerate any foreign nation interfering with out elections; however, we should demand our government not do so either. Usually when it happens, especially under Obama, it never ends well:

Assad
Castro
Noriega
Hussein
Qaddafi
Mubarak
The Muslim Brotherhood
Al Qaeida....



The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries
 
Does not matter.

Trump loves Putin and Russia. His supporters love Putin and Russia.

Russia = bad for America.

Russia, Trump, and his supporters = bad for America.
 
Does not matter.

Trump loves Putin and Russia. His supporters love Putin and Russia.

Russia = bad for America.

Russia, Trump, and his supporters = bad for America.
ChappelleSTFU.gif
 
Does not matter.

Trump loves Putin and Russia. His supporters love Putin and Russia.

Russia = bad for America.

Russia, Trump, and his supporters = bad for America.


What a stupid, stupid logic chain. That and the fact it is false. Libs will say anything to excuse their incompetence in the last election.
 
This is NOT an attempt to defend Putin / Russia or justify anything they did...as I said, just 'FYI':

The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries

"The U.S. has a long history of attempting to influence presidential elections in other countries – it’s done so as many as 81 times between 1946 and 2000, according to a database amassed by political scientist Dov Levin of Carnegie Mellon University.


That number doesn’t include military coups and regime change efforts following the election of candidates the U.S. didn’t like, notably those in Iran, Guatemala and Chile. Nor does it include general assistance with the electoral process, such as election monitoring."

Under President Obama:
- Obama helped oust US ally dictator Mubarak then injected himself into Egypt's election process by demanding Egypt hold their elections early. This benefitted the terrorist group The Muslim Brotherhood because they were the only ones ready for an immediate election so soon after Mubarak's removal.

- Hillary and Obama financed, supplied, armed, trained, defended, and Un-Constitutionally took the country to war to help Al Qaeida - the terrorist group that slaughtered 3,000 Americans - kill / oust Libyan dictator Mommar Qaddafi and take over their own country, DESPITE the fact that Kaddafi had been HELPING the coalition fight terrorists in Northern Africa.

Of course we can not tolerate any foreign nation interfering with our elections...but / so should we doing the same, injecting ourselves into other nations' elections?

- Hillary and Obama financed, supplied, armed, trained, defended, and Un-Constitutionally took the country to war to help ISIS over throw Syrian leader Assad, which the Russians have prevented.

- Obama injected himself into Israeli politics / elections by trying to oust Israel's leader Netenyahu. (Funny, his intervention in the Israeli election resulted in the same type of loss for the candidate he supported as when he injected himself into the 2014 US Mid-term elections and the US 2016 Presidential election.)



I 100% agree that we can not tolerate any foreign nation interfering with out elections; however, we should demand our government not do so either. Usually when it happens, especially under Obama, it never ends well:

Assad
Castro
Noriega
Hussein
Qaddafi
Mubarak
The Muslim Brotherhood
Al Qaeida....



The U.S. is no stranger to interfering in the elections of other countries


Question---------> What has anyone said about the reporting of the UK press prior to the election? Just wondering, because they were really kind of negative on Trump. Was that interference? I sort of remember our leftist friends posting articles from this, or that paper in the UK, and when something positive was posted about Trump, I also seem to remember them proclaiming that the particular paper that did, was just a rag.

If the Russians actually did pull this off, they should have used PRAVDA to do it, and not WikiLeaks, lol! The left can understand left wing/socialist, MSM outlets, now can't you lefties-)
 
I already posted this yesterday, but it looks like it's a right thread to post it again .

Democrats yelling “Russians interfered with our elections! Putin is there, Putin is here” are showing serious signs of paranoia. There have already been cases like that in the history of US before. US Secretary of Defense James Forrestal was dealing with preparing war with the USSR, he was working out a plan of nuclear attack of 100 Russian cities. He constantly demanded to increase war spending and called everybody who disagreed with him “Russian agents”. He constantly was talking about “Soviet threat”.

He lost a lot of weight and looked exhausted. Finally, his colleagues suspected something wrong was going on with him. Forrestal was examined by doctors and found mentally ill. He was removed from his position and put into a mental hospital. Even in the hospital Forrestal was constantly repeating “I saw Russian soldiers, they are already here!” He has been stuffed with a lot of medicine and became more quiet, so the doctors eased up their control on him. And it was a wrong thing to do. On May 22, 1949 Forrestal jumped out of the window, screaming “Russians are coming!” and killed himself.

James Forrestal - Wikipedia
http://www.dcdave.com/article5/060609.htm
The Fall Of James Forrestal

Some seriously brainwashed liberals may end up the same way. But.. who cares...
 
Does not matter.

Trump loves Putin and Russia. His supporters love Putin and Russia.

Russia = bad for America.

Russia, Trump, and his supporters = bad for America.


What a stupid, stupid logic chain. That and the fact it is false. Libs will say anything to excuse their incompetence in the last election.

Hacking is a crime. If you want to support criminal enterprises trying to influence our elections - whether they succeed or not -

you have a problem.
 
Does not matter.

Trump loves Putin and Russia. His supporters love Putin and Russia.

Russia = bad for America.

Russia, Trump, and his supporters = bad for America.


What a stupid, stupid logic chain. That and the fact it is false. Libs will say anything to excuse their incompetence in the last election.

Hacking is a crime. If you want to support criminal enterprises trying to influence our elections - whether they succeed or not -

you have a problem.
Tell that to the DNC.
 
Does not matter.

Trump loves Putin and Russia. His supporters love Putin and Russia.

Russia = bad for America.

Russia, Trump, and his supporters = bad for America.

Jake, you got rightfully lambasted in your "Trump is not a Christian" badlands OP yesterday.
But instead of defending it with any retorts you just move on like nothing happened and start up with the same stupid rhetoric again.
(If you cannot defend your own OP thread, don't expect others to pay you any mind here.)
 
Does not matter.

Trump loves Putin and Russia. His supporters love Putin and Russia.

Russia = bad for America.

Russia, Trump, and his supporters = bad for America.


What a stupid, stupid logic chain. That and the fact it is false. Libs will say anything to excuse their incompetence in the last election.
It's a great logic chain, SW. It is true. Russia is bad for America, and Trump loves America. I am no more liberal than you are a patriot.
 
Does not matter.

Trump loves Putin and Russia. His supporters love Putin and Russia.

Russia = bad for America.

Russia, Trump, and his supporters = bad for America.

Jake, you got rightfully lambasted in your "Trump is not a Christian" badlands OP yesterday.
But instead of defending it with any retorts you just move on like nothing happened and start up with the same stupid rhetoric again.
(If you cannot defend your own OP thread, don't expect others to pay you any mind here.)
Not at all. Those who opposed me came out looking stupid as always, particularly you. Russia is not good for America. Period.

You and SW and others are criminal minds: you support hacking.
 
Jake, you are insane. By the way, Russia is cooler than Israel. They actually make stuff.
 

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