Just In From Occupied Gaza

[P F Tinmore]

What do you think happens if the PA dissolves?

Do you mean the illegal "PA" in the west bank?

Perhaps the legal government will take over.

Would that be Hamas?

The last legally constituted government is the March 2007 unity government.

 

[georgephillip]

"Timeline

"Hamas won the 2006 Palestinian elections. As a result, Israel, the United States, the European Union, several Western states, and the Arab states imposed sanctions suspending all foreign aid, upon which Palestinians depend.

"On 8 February 2007, negotiations in Mecca produced agreement on a Palestinian national unity government signed by Mahmoud Abbas on behalf of Fatah and Khaled Mashal on behalf of Hamas. The new government was called on to achieve Palestinian national goals as approved by the Palestine National Council, the clauses of the Basic Law and the National Reconciliation Document (the 'Prisoners Document') as well as the decisions of the Arab summit.'"

Palestinian March 2007 National Unity Government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ForeverYoung436]

What do you think happens if the PA dissolves?

Do you mean the illegal "PA" in the west bank?

Perhaps the legal government will take over.

Would that be Hamas?

Hamas is a bunch of murderers. As for the PA, I'm not a big fan, but even if they're not democratically elected, how is that different from every other Arab government?

 

[georgephillip]

Do you mean the illegal "PA" in the west bank?

Perhaps the legal government will take over.

Would that be Hamas?

Hamas is a bunch of murderers. As for the PA, I'm not a big fan, but even if they're not democratically elected, how is that different from every other Arab government?

If or when the PA officially dissolves that could create a security vacuum in the OTs.
Who do you think would fill it?

 

[Hossfly]

Would that be Hamas?

Hamas is a bunch of murderers. As for the PA, I'm not a big fan, but even if they're not democratically elected, how is that different from every other Arab government?

If or when the PA officially dissolves that could create a security vacuum in the OTs.
Who do you think would fill it?

I would fill it with a division of U.S. Marines.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

I do not think the Popular Resistance Movement are big fans of either Fatah or Hamas, but I do not know what that practically speaking means. At the same time, changes are happening in the WB, changes are also happening with Hamas. They got rid of a hardliner, and what I am reading is they are moving more towards popular resistance and away from armed resistance, even fighting with Salafast groups who will not stop launching rockets.. Hamas has always maintained support from the people by seeming to cater to the needs and desires of the general population. They have long been involved with meeting social welfare needs of the people, for example. That blind Shiek who was their founder used to personally hand out money to people in need, that was before he was assassinated by Israel in an unlawful targeted assassination.

Sherri

 

[Hossfly]

Do you mean the illegal "PA" in the west bank?

Perhaps the legal government will take over.

Would that be Hamas?

The last legally constituted government is the March 2007 unity government.

I wonder if Tinnie (on that magic computer of his that really isn't there) can tell his bosses in Hamas to please cooperate.

Human Rights Watch slams Hamas for failing to investigate the slaying of seven Palestinians who were dragged through the streets of Gaza - NY Daily News

 

[georgephillip]

Hamas is a bunch of murderers. As for the PA, I'm not a big fan, but even if they're not democratically elected, how is that different from every other Arab government?

If or when the PA officially dissolves that could create a security vacuum in the OTs.
Who do you think would fill it?

I would fill it with a division of U.S. Marines.

The Fate of All Empires, Hoss:

"An Associated Press photograph brought the horror of little children lying dead outside of their home to an American Audience. At least 10 Afghan children and some of their mothers were struck down by an airstrike on their extended family household by order of President Barack Obama.

"He probably decided on what his aides describe as the routine weekly 'Terror Tuesday' at the White House. On that day, Mr. Obama typically receives the advice about which 'militants' should live or die thousands of miles away from drones or aircraft.

"Even if households far from war zones are often destroyed in clear violation of the laws of war, the president is not deterred."

Two Obamas, Two Classes of Children » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

What's your take on "Terror Tuesday" and what it implies for children from Palestine to Afghanistan?

 

[CMike]

Hooray! BUT the man was not working for the US in Gaza, he was working for the US in the Occupied West Bank! NOW, COMES THE OPPORTUNITY for a reconciliation between Fatah and Hamas!

It's occupied by the jordanian settelers.

 

[georgephillip]

"If Israel is a criminal venture, then it has no more right to exist than any other criminal organization. However, it is to be noted that Rozenberg, being a good Zionist, conflates two different things: the country of Israel and the Zionist state philosophy and apparatus that runs that country. Must we see them as the same thing?

"If it turns out that they can be separated, then can we apply the charge of criminality to one of these and not the other?

"Zionists will fiercely insist that the country of Israel was born of the Zionist vision and therefore is inseparable from that ideology. But this is not the way history works. South Africa was born of a European racist vision and for a long time was identified as a manifestation of apartheid.

"However, that turned out to be an impermanent situation, and since 1994, the country of South Africa has run on a very different model. The country of Russia was founded as the expression of one ideology in the 15th century, transformed into quite a different state in 1917, and then something else again in 1991.

"If the history of nation-states proves anything at all, it is that state ideologies are much less permanent than the countries they are initially identified with."

In Defense of Amira Hass » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

 

[member]

"Interesting. Fayyad has never been the prime minister of Palestine."

"Who is the PM? Who is the President? Did Obama meet with the wrong people?"

"It is said that Abbas fired PM Ismail Haniyeh and appointed Fayyad. However there is a procedure for that in the Palestinian constitution. The president is to select a candidate and place him before parliament for approval. After this approval, and only after this approval, can the new PM take office. Neither Fayyad nor any of his cabinet have received parliamentary approval. It is illegal for them to take office. The existing PM, Ismail Haniyeh, is to remain in office until a new PM is approved and sworn into office. Abbas left the government in June of 2007. The constitutional procedure to replace a president is for the speaker of parliament, Dr. Aziz Dweik, to temporarily assume the office of the president and call an election within 60 days."

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"Dr. Aziz Dweik, to temporarily assume the office of the president and call an election within 60 days."


yeah but...aren't these people really the president of everything and everyone ? (regardless of any 'election') ??

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[member]

"Do you mean the illegal "PA" in the west bank?"

"Perhaps the legal government will take over."

"Would that be Hamas?"

"The last legally constituted government is the March 2007 unity government."

so far, (TWICE) you can't bring yourself to say the name of the "legal gov't. the PA, you have no problem with typing....... what a sniveling coward.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Would that be Hamas?"

"The last legally constituted government is the March 2007 unity government."

so far, (TWICE) you can't bring yourself to say the name of the "legal gov't. the PA, you have no problem with typing....... what a sniveling coward.

You are confused. What the liars call the PA in the West Bank is not.

 

[member]

"The last legally constituted government is the March 2007 unity government."

yah, name...???

 

[Hossfly]

"The last legally constituted government is the March 2007 unity government."

so far, (TWICE) you can't bring yourself to say the name of the "legal gov't. the PA, you have no problem with typing....... what a sniveling coward.

You are confused. What the liars call the PA in the West Bank is not.

According to Tinnie, the President is not the real President, the PM is not the PM.The West Bank and Gaza are enemies and all kinds of weird statements. Tell us Tinnie, just who is running that insane asylum? Concerned people want to know.

 

[toastman]

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so far, (TWICE) you can't bring yourself to say the name of the "legal gov't. the PA, you have no problem with typing....... what a sniveling coward.

You are confused. What the liars call the PA in the West Bank is not.

According to Tinnie, the President is not the real President, the PM is not the PM.The West Bank and Gaza are enemies and all kinds of weird statements. Tell us Tinnie, just who is running that insane asylum? Concerned people want to know.

Sherri and Jos run it

 

[Hossfly]

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You are confused. What the liars call the PA in the West Bank is not.

According to Tinnie, the President is not the real President, the PM is not the PM.The West Bank and Gaza are enemies and all kinds of weird statements. Tell us Tinnie, just who is running that insane asylum? Concerned people want to know.

Sherri and Jos run it

Marg suggested Sherria Law. It's not working.

 

[P F Tinmore]

so far, (TWICE) you can't bring yourself to say the name of the "legal gov't. the PA, you have no problem with typing....... what a sniveling coward.

You are confused. What the liars call the PA in the West Bank is not.

According to Tinnie, the President is not the real President, the PM is not the PM.The West Bank and Gaza are enemies and all kinds of weird statements. Tell us Tinnie, just who is running that insane asylum? Concerned people want to know.

Sure, Gaza run by the PA and the West Bank is run by the US/Israel.

 

[Hossfly]

You are confused. What the liars call the PA in the West Bank is not.

According to Tinnie, the President is not the real President, the PM is not the PM.The West Bank and Gaza are enemies and all kinds of weird statements. Tell us Tinnie, just who is running that insane asylum? Concerned people want to know.

Sure, Gaza run by the PA and the West Bank is run by the US/Israel.

Have you contacted the leaders of the Palestine Authority who are situated in Ramallah in the West Bank to tell them your thoughts of them being led by the U.S. and Israel? Get back to us with their answer. By the way, Tinnie, when you lived in Gaza, who was the leader then?

 

[MJB12741]

For Israel's sake let us hope the PA gets dissolved completely. What right has the PA to govern any Palestinians when the Palestinian people elected Hamas to govern them? Abbas has been a thorn in Israsel's side. Had it not been for the election of Hamas, Israel was doomed to provide a Palestinian State. LONG LIVE HAMAS!