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Justice Department to Open Broad, New Antitrust Review of Big Tech Companies

Finally the DOJ doing their job.

The job of the DOJ is to punish success and involve the government in the operations of private entities?

Only if it's to punish the political enemies of the current regime.
well it's a good god damn thing obama never punished people who didn't like him!

We're not talking about Obama - we're talking about Trumpsters clamoring for a government crackdown on the media. At least now we can put to bed the fantasy that Republicans give one shit about free markets or limited government. Or freedom of speech.
 
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It is retarded to think that millions of people would change their vote based on facebook memes or google search returns. Not as retarded as the democrats blaming Russia for Precious losing the Presidency, but still retarded.
Sadly, the fact that far to many people are retarded means they they will change their vote based on memes or shared fake news. Look at some of the folks here who seem like otherwise functional adults but none the less slavishly follow tRump no matter what.
 
It is retarded to think that millions of people would change their vote based on facebook memes or google search returns. Not as retarded as the democrats blaming Russia for Precious losing the Presidency, but still retarded.

Is it really? Political campaigns spend literally billions of dollars on ads for TV and radio. They do so because they think those ads sway votes. Is that any different than FB memes?
 
Finally the DOJ doing their job.

The job of the DOJ is to punish success and involve the government in the operations of private entities?

Only if it's to punish the political enemies of the current regime.
well it's a good god damn thing obama never punished people who didn't like him!

Of course Obama did...and the people cheering now were whining then and vice versa.
 
Finally the DOJ doing their job.

The job of the DOJ is to punish success and involve the government in the operations of private entities?

Only if it's to punish the political enemies of the current regime.
well it's a good god damn thing obama never punished people who didn't like him!

Of course Obama did...and the people cheering now were whining then and vice versa.
deny your own actions, highlight the others.
 
Finally the DOJ doing their job.

The job of the DOJ is to punish success and involve the government in the operations of private entities?

Only if it's to punish the political enemies of the current regime.
well it's a good god damn thing obama never punished people who didn't like him!

Of course Obama did...and the people cheering now were whining then and vice versa.

Phony phucking hypocrites all of them.
 
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It is retarded to think that millions of people would change their vote based on facebook memes or google search returns. Not as retarded as the democrats blaming Russia for Precious losing the Presidency, but still retarded.

Is it really? Political campaigns spend literally billions of dollars on ads for TV and radio. They do so because they think those ads sway votes. Is that any different than FB memes?
Yes it is. Given the alleged "billions of dollars" spent on ads, how can you argue that it was a facebook meme instead of a TV ad, particularly when nobody has yet to produce that unicorn who changed its vote based on a meme shared by its 4-legged facebook friends in their secret furries FB group.
 
It is retarded to think that millions of people would change their vote based on facebook memes or google search returns. Not as retarded as the democrats blaming Russia for Precious losing the Presidency, but still retarded.
Sadly, the fact that far to many people are retarded means they they will change their vote based on memes or shared fake news. Look at some of the folks here who seem like otherwise functional adults but none the less slavishly follow tRump no matter what.

If they follow Trump no matter what then facebook memes wouldn't change their vote because they supported him no matter what
 
Three cheers for more government, more regulations, and, more free market intrusion!

I love watching people wipe their asses with their principles the second it becomes convenient to do so.
 
It is retarded to think that millions of people would change their vote based on facebook memes or google search returns. Not as retarded as the democrats blaming Russia for Precious losing the Presidency, but still retarded.

Is it really? Political campaigns spend literally billions of dollars on ads for TV and radio. They do so because they think those ads sway votes. Is that any different than FB memes?
Yes it is. Given the alleged "billions of dollars" spent on ads, how can you argue that it was a facebook meme instead of a TV ad, particularly when nobody has yet to produce that unicorn who changed its vote based on a meme shared by its 4-legged facebook friends in their secret furries FB group.

Have you ever met anyone that admitted they changed their vote based upon a TV or radio ad?
 
It is retarded to think that millions of people would change their vote based on facebook memes or google search returns. Not as retarded as the democrats blaming Russia for Precious losing the Presidency, but still retarded.

Is it really? Political campaigns spend literally billions of dollars on ads for TV and radio. They do so because they think those ads sway votes. Is that any different than FB memes?
Yes it is. Given the alleged "billions of dollars" spent on ads, how can you argue that it was a facebook meme instead of a TV ad, particularly when nobody has yet to produce that unicorn who changed its vote based on a meme shared by its 4-legged facebook friends in their secret furries FB group.

Have you ever met anyone that admitted they changed their vote based upon a TV or radio ad?

Trying to avoid addressing the question asked of you because the answer is inconvenient for your position are you?
 
It is retarded to think that millions of people would change their vote based on facebook memes or google search returns. Not as retarded as the democrats blaming Russia for Precious losing the Presidency, but still retarded.

Is it really? Political campaigns spend literally billions of dollars on ads for TV and radio. They do so because they think those ads sway votes. Is that any different than FB memes?
Yes it is. Given the alleged "billions of dollars" spent on ads, how can you argue that it was a facebook meme instead of a TV ad, particularly when nobody has yet to produce that unicorn who changed its vote based on a meme shared by its 4-legged facebook friends in their secret furries FB group.

Have you ever met anyone that admitted they changed their vote based upon a TV or radio ad?

Trying to avoid addressing the question asked of you because the answer is inconvenient for your position are you?

The position I am in is that everyone claims these things never effect them, yet companies are willing to pay 5 million dollars for a 30 second ad in the Super Bowl and in the US more than 120 billion dollars a year is spent on ads.

Clearly, the people paying for these ads think they have an impact. There might be a reason for that.
 
It is retarded to think that millions of people would change their vote based on facebook memes or google search returns. Not as retarded as the democrats blaming Russia for Precious losing the Presidency, but still retarded.

Is it really? Political campaigns spend literally billions of dollars on ads for TV and radio. They do so because they think those ads sway votes. Is that any different than FB memes?
Yes it is. Given the alleged "billions of dollars" spent on ads, how can you argue that it was a facebook meme instead of a TV ad, particularly when nobody has yet to produce that unicorn who changed its vote based on a meme shared by its 4-legged facebook friends in their secret furries FB group.

Have you ever met anyone that admitted they changed their vote based upon a TV or radio ad?

Trying to avoid addressing the question asked of you because the answer is inconvenient for your position are you?

The position I am in is that everyone claims these things never effect them, yet companies are willing to pay 5 million dollars for a 30 second ad in the Super Bowl and in the US more than 120 billion dollars a year is spent on ads.

Clearly, the people paying for these ads think they have an impact. There might be a reason for that.

If you are singling out specific companies, then you would need to be able to show those ads specific to those companies had the effect as opposed to generalized politicking and campaigning IMO. If not, you are cherry picking.
 
Is it really? Political campaigns spend literally billions of dollars on ads for TV and radio. They do so because they think those ads sway votes. Is that any different than FB memes?
Yes it is. Given the alleged "billions of dollars" spent on ads, how can you argue that it was a facebook meme instead of a TV ad, particularly when nobody has yet to produce that unicorn who changed its vote based on a meme shared by its 4-legged facebook friends in their secret furries FB group.

Have you ever met anyone that admitted they changed their vote based upon a TV or radio ad?

Trying to avoid addressing the question asked of you because the answer is inconvenient for your position are you?

The position I am in is that everyone claims these things never effect them, yet companies are willing to pay 5 million dollars for a 30 second ad in the Super Bowl and in the US more than 120 billion dollars a year is spent on ads.

Clearly, the people paying for these ads think they have an impact. There might be a reason for that.

If you are singling out specific companies, then you would need to be able to show those ads specific to those companies had the effect as opposed to generalized politicking and campaigning IMO. If not, you are cherry picking.

I am saying that companies think that ads and digital advertising have an impact on consumers. That is why we spent 120 billion dollars a year on such things, that is why a company is willing to pay 5 million dollars for 30 seconds in a football game.

And yet, nobody I have ever met has said "wow, that ad really swayed me to that product". Using your standard that means that those 120 billion dollars a year are wasted...yet I tend to think that most companies are smarter than that and they know these ads are having an impact.
 
Yes it is. Given the alleged "billions of dollars" spent on ads, how can you argue that it was a facebook meme instead of a TV ad, particularly when nobody has yet to produce that unicorn who changed its vote based on a meme shared by its 4-legged facebook friends in their secret furries FB group.

Have you ever met anyone that admitted they changed their vote based upon a TV or radio ad?

Trying to avoid addressing the question asked of you because the answer is inconvenient for your position are you?

The position I am in is that everyone claims these things never effect them, yet companies are willing to pay 5 million dollars for a 30 second ad in the Super Bowl and in the US more than 120 billion dollars a year is spent on ads.

Clearly, the people paying for these ads think they have an impact. There might be a reason for that.

If you are singling out specific companies, then you would need to be able to show those ads specific to those companies had the effect as opposed to generalized politicking and campaigning IMO. If not, you are cherry picking.

I am saying that companies think that ads and digital advertising have an impact on consumers. That is why we spent 120 billion dollars a year on such things, that is why a company is willing to pay 5 million dollars for 30 seconds in a football game.

And yet, nobody I have ever met has said "wow, that ad really swayed me to that product". Using your standard that means that those 120 billion dollars a year are wasted...yet I tend to think that most companies are smarter than that and they know these ads are having an impact.

You are still ignoring that if you call out any platform be it Facebook or MSNBC, you would need to show that ad was exclusive to Facebook or MSNBC and that ad had a direct impact. Since I have seen no such information presented, this controversy strikes me as butthurt on both sides, particularly the DNC side. The allegation has turned into almost the perfect lie at this point as far as I can tell because there is no direct particularized evidence.
 
Have you ever met anyone that admitted they changed their vote based upon a TV or radio ad?

Trying to avoid addressing the question asked of you because the answer is inconvenient for your position are you?

The position I am in is that everyone claims these things never effect them, yet companies are willing to pay 5 million dollars for a 30 second ad in the Super Bowl and in the US more than 120 billion dollars a year is spent on ads.

Clearly, the people paying for these ads think they have an impact. There might be a reason for that.

If you are singling out specific companies, then you would need to be able to show those ads specific to those companies had the effect as opposed to generalized politicking and campaigning IMO. If not, you are cherry picking.

I am saying that companies think that ads and digital advertising have an impact on consumers. That is why we spent 120 billion dollars a year on such things, that is why a company is willing to pay 5 million dollars for 30 seconds in a football game.

And yet, nobody I have ever met has said "wow, that ad really swayed me to that product". Using your standard that means that those 120 billion dollars a year are wasted...yet I tend to think that most companies are smarter than that and they know these ads are having an impact.

You are still ignoring that if you call out any platform be it Facebook or MSNBC, you would need to show that ad was exclusive to Facebook or MSNBC and that ad had a direct impact. Since I have seen no such information presented, this controversy strikes me as butthurt on both sides, particularly the DNC side. The allegation has turned into almost the perfect lie at this point as far as I can tell because there is no direct particularized evidence.

I agree that calling out a specific platform is silly and reeks of partisanship.

But I would say also that it is no less silly than claiming that since nobody ever said "I changed my vote because of ...." that means that thing did not have an impact.
 
Trying to avoid addressing the question asked of you because the answer is inconvenient for your position are you?

The position I am in is that everyone claims these things never effect them, yet companies are willing to pay 5 million dollars for a 30 second ad in the Super Bowl and in the US more than 120 billion dollars a year is spent on ads.

Clearly, the people paying for these ads think they have an impact. There might be a reason for that.

If you are singling out specific companies, then you would need to be able to show those ads specific to those companies had the effect as opposed to generalized politicking and campaigning IMO. If not, you are cherry picking.

I am saying that companies think that ads and digital advertising have an impact on consumers. That is why we spent 120 billion dollars a year on such things, that is why a company is willing to pay 5 million dollars for 30 seconds in a football game.

And yet, nobody I have ever met has said "wow, that ad really swayed me to that product". Using your standard that means that those 120 billion dollars a year are wasted...yet I tend to think that most companies are smarter than that and they know these ads are having an impact.

You are still ignoring that if you call out any platform be it Facebook or MSNBC, you would need to show that ad was exclusive to Facebook or MSNBC and that ad had a direct impact. Since I have seen no such information presented, this controversy strikes me as butthurt on both sides, particularly the DNC side. The allegation has turned into almost the perfect lie at this point as far as I can tell because there is no direct particularized evidence.

I agree that calling out a specific platform is silly and reeks of partisanship.

But I would say also that it is no less silly than claiming that since nobody ever said "I changed my vote because of ...." that means that thing did not have an impact.

I didn't say that ads generally do not have an impact. My position is more broadly that unless you can show me a voter who said a meme changed their mind then there is no there there as to facebook/google/russia. I despise google and facebook for many reasons, but this isn't one of them.
 
Justice Department to Open Broad, New Antitrust Review of Big Tech Companies

here we go. like i've said; from my experiences at microsoft, there comes a time it just doesn't matter if you're simply taking advantage of your own growth, the gov will come on in and do some leveling THEY feel needs to be done.

when you use that "power" to shove your will on others, the gov can and will get in the way. what i see today is a hell of a lot more of shoving of wills so i expect the gov to come down just as hard as they did on MS. at a bare minimum the living in the gray area will end and each platform must take a choice, not take the best of all.

i'd love to see an open competition for this but that right now isn't even possible. when google can throw votes to a presidential candidates way, (‘Google has power to control elections, can shift millions of votes to Clinton’ – Robert Epstein) then you're abusing that power and it will be stopped.

doesn't matter how you may personally feel, big tech is about to get big brother'd and they brought it upon themselves in a very human nature fashion.

You sound like a crazy, deluded moron. Google is not throwing anything anyone's way. There is no abuse.

I predict that the government will come up with a few face-saving measures to justify their investigation. They can't prevent people from buying Apple or using Google as the search engine.
 
It's not about Memes on Facebook. It is about the selective control of the flow of information by a very few LARGE companies. It would be like AT&T (before the break up) breaking in on your phone conversation and telling you not to say something, or completely just cutting off your conversation. Is that OK?

The idea that you can restrict the flow of information on the internet is ridiculous. You are a delusional fascist.
 
It is retarded to think that millions of people would change their vote based on facebook memes or google search returns. Not as retarded as the democrats blaming Russia for Precious losing the Presidency, but still retarded.

Is it really? Political campaigns spend literally billions of dollars on ads for TV and radio. They do so because they think those ads sway votes. Is that any different than FB memes?
Yes it is. Given the alleged "billions of dollars" spent on ads, how can you argue that it was a facebook meme instead of a TV ad, particularly when nobody has yet to produce that unicorn who changed its vote based on a meme shared by its 4-legged facebook friends in their secret furries FB group.

Have you ever met anyone that admitted they changed their vote based upon a TV or radio ad?

Trying to avoid addressing the question asked of you because the answer is inconvenient for your position are you?
just because you don't understand his answer, doesn't make it incorrect.
 

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