Knee-deep in blood: We are all being held hostage by Wayne LaPierre’s children

[Derideo_Te]

I'll admit that closing down the mental hospitals was a really stupid move. What did we expect? We allow our truly fucked in the head to run around without any help.

that isn't the problem. it's not keeping guns away from crazies, loons, and criminals.

it's harder to get a drivers license in some places than a gun license.

but we can pretend it's about mental institutions.

While I know that a DL is not a right but a privilege it is interesting that we require anyone wanting a DL to prove competency before allowing them to drive a 2 ton vehicle on public roads.

But no competency is required to carry around a lethal weapon capable of killing someone from a distance.

That alone says that there is something wrong with not enforcing reasonable competency testing for everyone who wants to carry a gun.

But the NRA screeches that this amounts to "grabbing our guns" which is total BS. It just means you can't walk around in public without proving that you know when NOT to pull the trigger.

How about we apply competency testing to voting, marriage licenses, or running for office?

As soon as you can prove the danger to others that comes from voting , marriage licenses or running for office you will have a justification for requiring competency testing.

You only need look at commiecrat shit holes like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, South St. Louis and many others to see voting can be very hazardous to people, 50% of marriages fail, many end in a death, nuff said there. And according to all sides of politics, politicians are corrupt thieves who ignore the people who put them in office and are destroying the country. Is that enough damage and danger for ya?

Did you injure your sole remaining working synapse stretching that hard for your beloved Wayne LaPoodle and the blood sucking NRA?

 

[Ame®icano]

must all liberals lie to attempt to advance their cause ?

Modern liberalism is mental disorder.

Look at the countries that embraced liberalism, like Sweden... where socialists wants to tax population to pay for returning ISIS terrorists to get jobs and reintegrate into society. Again, they want to tax citizens to pay for reintegration of violent nutcases who behead people, throw gays of building, and stone women to death. Remember, this is the country whose taxpayer funded expert on islamophobia went on to join ISIS. This is the country where soldier don't even get offered a job when return home from Iraq. Things like this are being treated as legitimate debate.

Or England, where they're debating how to prevent ISIS wannabees to leave country and fight in Iraq and Syria. For all I care, let them go and blow themselves up. And those hundreds of jihadists that are returning to England are being given counseling and employment at taxpayer expense and that is not even up for debate. Well, at least, last election in UK, "conservatives" won.

And liberal nutcases here wants to mimic liberal nutcases there, on everything...

 

[Ame®icano]

I'll admit that closing down the mental hospitals was a really stupid move. What did we expect? We allow our truly fucked in the head to run around without any help.

that isn't the problem. it's not keeping guns away from crazies, loons, and criminals.
it's harder to get a drivers license in some places than a gun license.
but we can pretend it's about mental institutions.

Why do I need gun license anyways?

Wait...
You question why you should have to let the state know when, where and how you will exercise your rights before said state will allow you to do so?
What are you - some kind of thinking, reasoned, freedom-loving non-statist?

You read it right. Now, how about you try to answer?

 

[M14 Shooter]

I'll admit that closing down the mental hospitals was a really stupid move. What did we expect? We allow our truly fucked in the head to run around without any help.

that isn't the problem. it's not keeping guns away from crazies, loons, and criminals.
it's harder to get a drivers license in some places than a gun license.
but we can pretend it's about mental institutions.

Why do I need gun license anyways?

Wait...
You question why you should have to let the state know when, where and how you will exercise your rights before said state will allow you to do so?
What are you - some kind of thinking, reasoned, freedom-loving non-statist?

You read it right. Now, how about you try to answer?

Lighten up, Francis.
Sarcasm - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[OKTexas]

that isn't the problem. it's not keeping guns away from crazies, loons, and criminals.

it's harder to get a drivers license in some places than a gun license.

but we can pretend it's about mental institutions.

While I know that a DL is not a right but a privilege it is interesting that we require anyone wanting a DL to prove competency before allowing them to drive a 2 ton vehicle on public roads.

But no competency is required to carry around a lethal weapon capable of killing someone from a distance.

That alone says that there is something wrong with not enforcing reasonable competency testing for everyone who wants to carry a gun.

But the NRA screeches that this amounts to "grabbing our guns" which is total BS. It just means you can't walk around in public without proving that you know when NOT to pull the trigger.

How about we apply competency testing to voting, marriage licenses, or running for office?

As soon as you can prove the danger to others that comes from voting , marriage licenses or running for office you will have a justification for requiring competency testing.

You only need look at commiecrat shit holes like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, South St. Louis and many others to see voting can be very hazardous to people, 50% of marriages fail, many end in a death, nuff said there. And according to all sides of politics, politicians are corrupt thieves who ignore the people who put them in office and are destroying the country. Is that enough damage and danger for ya?

Did you injure your sole remaining working synapse stretching that hard for your beloved Wayne LaPoodle and the blood sucking NRA?

Never been a member of the NRA, don't plan to be. Just pointing out other rights can be dangerous for others but the ignorant left can't see facts that are slapping them in the face.
I have a right to vote, to get married, run for office and own a gun, when you attack one right, you attack all of them.

 

[Ame®icano]

The NRA has become a cover group for terrorism. These racial terrorists are EXACTLY the same as al Qaeda, Taliban, ISIL.

EXACTLY.

Are you saying that Charleston shooting was an act of terrorism?

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

Lifetime member of the NRA. If that pisses you off, too damn bad.

Guns like speech, can be abused. Amazing how in the 1950's you could buy a gun through the mail for $20.00, but nobody walked into a church then and killed a bunch of people. Oh my how we have progressed!

The problem is society and how meaningless it is anymore to kill something. Killing babies is a right, and that is just absurd. 45 people shot in Chicago on a weekend, black on black crime, and of course, no one is screeching about that. The more screwed up you liberals make this country, the more I want to retreat to my ranch and put up the barricades.

Take this little turd out of jail, get a rope and let him swing for his crimes.

 

[2aguy]

Explaining the difference would require that you be able to understand the truth, and reality and that you have a functioning moral compass....since you lack all of those things you posted that photo........oh....and you would also have to have a basic understanding of good and evil...which you obviously also lack....moron....

 

[Derideo_Te]

While I know that a DL is not a right but a privilege it is interesting that we require anyone wanting a DL to prove competency before allowing them to drive a 2 ton vehicle on public roads.

But no competency is required to carry around a lethal weapon capable of killing someone from a distance.

That alone says that there is something wrong with not enforcing reasonable competency testing for everyone who wants to carry a gun.

But the NRA screeches that this amounts to "grabbing our guns" which is total BS. It just means you can't walk around in public without proving that you know when NOT to pull the trigger.

How about we apply competency testing to voting, marriage licenses, or running for office?

As soon as you can prove the danger to others that comes from voting , marriage licenses or running for office you will have a justification for requiring competency testing.

You only need look at commiecrat shit holes like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, South St. Louis and many others to see voting can be very hazardous to people, 50% of marriages fail, many end in a death, nuff said there. And according to all sides of politics, politicians are corrupt thieves who ignore the people who put them in office and are destroying the country. Is that enough damage and danger for ya?

Did you injure your sole remaining working synapse stretching that hard for your beloved Wayne LaPoodle and the blood sucking NRA?

Never been a member of the NRA, don't plan to be. Just pointing out other rights can be dangerous for others but the ignorant left can't see facts that are slapping them in the face.
I have a right to vote, to get married, run for office and own a gun, when you attack one right, you attack all of them.

Expecting you to pass a competency test in order to be in possession of a gun is not an "attack" on your rights.

The state has a right to regulate where and when you can vote, how old you must be before you can get married and how old you must be in order to hold office. None of those regulations are an "attack" on your rights.

So neither is a competency test for lethal weapons ownership.

Unfortunately your beloved blood soaked NRA supports domestic terrorism over and above sane and sensible regulations.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

ROFLMNAO...

Moonbats and their silly excuses.

Now friends and readers... Of the two competing sets of ideas; we have the Ideological Left and the Philosophical Right... Which do you suppose it is that demands that there is no God and as a result claims a right to take human life where such represents an Inconvenience?

Take your time and let that sink in... .

Wrong again, the pragmatic v. the emotional best describes the issue of this thread, which has nothing to do with the issue of abortion. Please do try to color within the lines.

Again Readers, OF the two competing sets of ideas; wherein we have the Ideological Left and the Philosophical Right... .

Which do you suppose it is that demands that "There is no God", thus no objective accountability conducive TO God; and which as a result, claims a "right to take human life, with no justification beyond such represents an Inconvenience to them"?

This is NOT a complex equation...

Two competing sets of ideas, one separates mankind from objective accountability... and authorizes murder of the innocent on the most trifling of potential justifications... of those two, which one would be conducive to walking into a church, sitting down and listening to a bible study, then retrieving one's firearm and murdering those people worshipping God, inside their house of worship?

 

[Derideo_Te]

Lifetime member of the NRA. If that pisses you off, too damn bad.

Letter of Resignation Sent By Bush to Rifle Association - NYTimes.com

Letter of Resignation Sent By Bush to Rifle Association

National Rifle Association: May 3, 1995

Dear Mr. Washington,

I was outraged when, even in the wake of the Oklahoma City tragedy, Mr. Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of N.R.A., defended his attack on federal agents as "jack-booted thugs." To attack Secret Service agents or A.T.F. people or any government law enforcement people as "wearing Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms" wanting to "attack law abiding citizens" is a vicious slander on good people.

Al Whicher, who served on my [ United States Secret Service ] detail when I was Vice President and President, was killed in Oklahoma City. He was no Nazi. He was a kind man, a loving parent, a man dedicated to serving his country -- and serve it well he did.

In 1993, I attended the wake for A.T.F. agent Steve Willis, another dedicated officer who did his duty. I can assure you that this honorable man, killed by weird cultists, was no Nazi.

John Magaw, who used to head the U.S.S.S. and now heads A.T.F., is one of the most principled, decent men I have ever known. He would be the last to condone the kind of illegal behavior your ugly letter charges. The same is true for the F.B.I.'s able Director Louis Freeh. I appointed Mr. Freeh to the Federal Bench. His integrity and honor are beyond question.

Both John Magaw and Judge Freeh were in office when I was President. They both now serve in the current administration. They both have badges. Neither of them would ever give the government's "go ahead to harass, intimidate, even murder law abiding citizens." (Your words)

I am a gun owner and an avid hunter. Over the years I have agreed with most of N.R.A.'s objectives, particularly your educational and training efforts, and your fundamental stance in favor of owning guns.

However, your broadside against Federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor; and it offends my concept of service to country. It indirectly slanders a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us.

You have not repudiated Mr. LaPierre's unwarranted attack. Therefore, I resign as a Life Member of N.R.A., said resignation to be effective upon your receipt of this letter. Please remove my name from your membership list. Sincerely, [ signed ] George Bush

 

[JWBooth]

Knee-deep in blood: We are all being held hostage by Wayne LaPierre’s children

Hyperbole much?

 

[Anathema]

I apologize, when you said "get rid of the mentally ill" I thought you were implying that we needed to snuff them out.

I hate liberals too, but I don't want to purge them. It would just be nice if they moved to Cuba, North Korea or Zimbabwe. Some place that already has the insane socialism they dream of. They'd be happier there.

In the case of this stupid kid, there was no patern of behavior or any indication that he would do something like this. The only thing that could have stopped him was someone else with a gun.

Period.

There are many different ways to get rid of people..... deportation, institutionalization, isolation, and potentially extermination. All are valid options.

Nothing but the willingness to fight back stops anything g bad from happening in life.

 

[Derideo_Te]

There are many different ways to get rid of people..... deportation, institutionalization, isolation, and potentially extermination. All are valid options.

Gee!

Who was using all of those options back in the 1940's?

Are you suggesting those are "valid options" for America today?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Expecting you to pass a competency test in order to be in possession of a gun is not an "attack" on your rights.

It quite literally does.

But I don't get my right to own and effectively use state of the art firearms in defense of my means to freely exercise my God-given rights, from the government, thus I do not seek permission from the government to own and effectively use state of the art firearms in defense of my means to exercise my God-given rights.

Requirements that I must, decidedly would infringe upon that right.

The State can shove their interests, up their collective. My Rights are not a subjective which is relevant to them, at all... > . <

 

[Anathema]

Gee!

Who was using all of those options back in the 1940's?

Are you suggesting those are "valid options" for America today?

I'm suggesting they've been valid options for the entirety of human existence and always will be. Once we get rid of multiculturalism and the rest of the ideas that diversity is somehow better than a solid base of culture and values; Society will be able to right itself and get back on track.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

must all liberals lie to attempt to advance their cause ?

Well it wouldn't be Evil, if it did not manifest itself through Deceit and FRAUD and depend entirely upon Ignorance, to exist.

So... yep. Every one, every time.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Isn't it wonderful, how exquisitely the Left runs from the only actual, relevant issue?

Now... those people in that church, they were doing what?

They were studyin' the scriptures; which is to say God's word.

And a person with a deep seated hatred burnin' inside him, he came into that church, witnessed those people who were in in fellowship with the Father and he was driven to MURDER THOSE PEOPLE.

Now again...

Of the two competing sets of Ideas:

1- The Ideological Left which rejects the objective truth central to God... with their highly limited subjective natures, obsessing over; resenting the accountability which God holds over them.

and

2- The Philosophical Right, which embraces God, his word and the principles in nature he created that govern human behavior... which is central to the aforementioned 'accountability'.

WHICH DO YOU SUPPOSE INSTILLS THE DRIVE TO MURDER CHRISTIAN PEOPLE IN THEIR HOUSE OF WORSHIP, as they study God's word?

.

.

.

Anyone?

.

.

.

Anyone at all?

 

[2aguy]

Lifetime member of the NRA. If that pisses you off, too damn bad.

Letter of Resignation Sent By Bush to Rifle Association - NYTimes.com

Letter of Resignation Sent By Bush to Rifle Association

National Rifle Association: May 3, 1995

Dear Mr. Washington,

I was outraged when, even in the wake of the Oklahoma City tragedy, Mr. Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of N.R.A., defended his attack on federal agents as "jack-booted thugs." To attack Secret Service agents or A.T.F. people or any government law enforcement people as "wearing Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms" wanting to "attack law abiding citizens" is a vicious slander on good people.

Al Whicher, who served on my [ United States Secret Service ] detail when I was Vice President and President, was killed in Oklahoma City. He was no Nazi. He was a kind man, a loving parent, a man dedicated to serving his country -- and serve it well he did.

In 1993, I attended the wake for A.T.F. agent Steve Willis, another dedicated officer who did his duty. I can assure you that this honorable man, killed by weird cultists, was no Nazi.

John Magaw, who used to head the U.S.S.S. and now heads A.T.F., is one of the most principled, decent men I have ever known. He would be the last to condone the kind of illegal behavior your ugly letter charges. The same is true for the F.B.I.'s able Director Louis Freeh. I appointed Mr. Freeh to the Federal Bench. His integrity and honor are beyond question.

Both John Magaw and Judge Freeh were in office when I was President. They both now serve in the current administration. They both have badges. Neither of them would ever give the government's "go ahead to harass, intimidate, even murder law abiding citizens." (Your words)

I am a gun owner and an avid hunter. Over the years I have agreed with most of N.R.A.'s objectives, particularly your educational and training efforts, and your fundamental stance in favor of owning guns.

However, your broadside against Federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor; and it offends my concept of service to country. It indirectly slanders a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us.

You have not repudiated Mr. LaPierre's unwarranted attack. Therefore, I resign as a Life Member of N.R.A., said resignation to be effective upon your receipt of this letter. Please remove my name from your membership list. Sincerely, [ signed ] George Bush

Yeah...he also said..."read my lips, no new taxes...." I don't base my beliefs on politicians...sadly for you anti gun extremists...when the borg queen obama speaks you stand at attention......

 

[2aguy]

There are many different ways to get rid of people..... deportation, institutionalization, isolation, and potentially extermination. All are valid options.

Gee!

Who was using all of those options back in the 1940's?

Are you suggesting those are "valid options" for America today?

No....apparently you lefties think that death camps are the better option.......