Labor Day...Should We All Celebrate?

DGS49

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"Observed the first Monday in September, Labor Day is an annual celebration of the social and economic achievements of American workers. The holiday is rooted in the late nineteenth century, when labor activists pushed for a federal holiday to recognize the many contributions workers have made to America’s strength, prosperity, and well-being." (U.S. Dept of Labor website, on the origins of Labor Day).

I have no quarrel with that. In philosophical discussions of the dramatic rise in our American standard of living, Economists generally credit Capitalists, entrepreneurs, and inventors, but one cannot discount the efforts of the MoFo's who actually do the work that brings about the capitalists' and inventors' dreams.

I never actually did any "work" in my long and spotted career, but I respected (and respect) the guys (mainly) in the mills, factories, labs, and fields, and I concur with the concept of setting aside a day each year to commemorate their collective value to the society that we enjoy.

But it seems to me that ORGANIZED (Union) labor has taken over the holiday, and want to convert it from a celebration of good, hard, productive work, to a celebration of socialism in the workplace. Most "hard working Americans" (that the Democrats constantly reference) choose NOT to belong to a Union, but rather to peg their compensation to their actual worth in the workplace. They don't want to work in a place where the laziest and least productive people make the same compensation as the best and most productive, and where much of Management's efforts is directed at innovations that make it difficult or impossible to slack off or sabotage the work.

Last time I checked, less than ten percent of the private sector U,S, workforce belonged to a Union. Many of them would, I suppose if given a chance to join, but it would be ludicrous to suppose that more than half would.

And latter-day unions have proven themselves to be largely corrupt organizations where the officers grant themselves lavish salaries and benefits, and often dip into the till of pension funds. They unanimously support Democrat political candidates (and send them money), while the majority of their members do the opposite.

I have these thoughts as I consider whether to fly my American flag this weekend to celebrate Labor Day.

I think not.
 
"Observed the first Monday in September, Labor Day is an annual celebration of the social and economic achievements of American workers. The holiday is rooted in the late nineteenth century, when labor activists pushed for a federal holiday to recognize the many contributions workers have made to America’s strength, prosperity, and well-being." (U.S. Dept of Labor website, on the origins of Labor Day).

I have no quarrel with that. In philosophical discussions of the dramatic rise in our American standard of living, Economists generally credit Capitalists, entrepreneurs, and inventors, but one cannot discount the efforts of the MoFo's who actually do the work that brings about the capitalists' and inventors' dreams.

I never actually did any "work" in my long and spotted career, but I respected (and respect) the guys (mainly) in the mills, factories, labs, and fields, and I concur with the concept of setting aside a day each year to commemorate their collective value to the society that we enjoy.

But it seems to me that ORGANIZED (Union) labor has taken over the holiday, and want to convert it from a celebration of good, hard, productive work, to a celebration of socialism in the workplace. Most "hard working Americans" (that the Democrats constantly reference) choose NOT to belong to a Union, but rather to peg their compensation to their actual worth in the workplace. They don't want to work in a place where the laziest and least productive people make the same compensation as the best and most productive, and where much of Management's efforts is directed at innovations that make it difficult or impossible to slack off or sabotage the work.

That's odd. It would be cool if you could explain this to all the Trump loving union linemen I work with.

Surely they would have some constructive feedback for you.

Last time I checked, less than ten percent of the private sector U,S, workforce belonged to a Union. Many of them would, I suppose if given a chance to join, but it would be ludicrous to suppose that more than half would.

And latter-day unions have proven themselves to be largely corrupt organizations where the officers grant themselves lavish salaries and benefits, and often dip into the till of pension funds. They unanimously support Democrat political candidates (and send them money), while the majority of their members do the opposite.

I have these thoughts as I consider whether to fly my American flag this weekend to celebrate Labor Day.

I think not.
I will certainly be celebrating labor day this year. Beer, BBQ, 4 day weekend.

Good luck to you in whatever your decide.
 
"Observed the first Monday in September, Labor Day is an annual celebration of the social and economic achievements of American workers. The holiday is rooted in the late nineteenth century, when labor activists pushed for a federal holiday to recognize the many contributions workers have made to America’s strength, prosperity, and well-being." (U.S. Dept of Labor website, on the origins of Labor Day).

I have no quarrel with that. In philosophical discussions of the dramatic rise in our American standard of living, Economists generally credit Capitalists, entrepreneurs, and inventors, but one cannot discount the efforts of the MoFo's who actually do the work that brings about the capitalists' and inventors' dreams.

I never actually did any "work" in my long and spotted career, but I respected (and respect) the guys (mainly) in the mills, factories, labs, and fields, and I concur with the concept of setting aside a day each year to commemorate their collective value to the society that we enjoy.

But it seems to me that ORGANIZED (Union) labor has taken over the holiday, and want to convert it from a celebration of good, hard, productive work, to a celebration of socialism in the workplace. Most "hard working Americans" (that the Democrats constantly reference) choose NOT to belong to a Union, but rather to peg their compensation to their actual worth in the workplace. They don't want to work in a place where the laziest and least productive people make the same compensation as the best and most productive, and where much of Management's efforts is directed at innovations that make it difficult or impossible to slack off or sabotage the work.

Last time I checked, less than ten percent of the private sector U,S, workforce belonged to a Union. Many of them would, I suppose if given a chance to join, but it would be ludicrous to suppose that more than half would.

And latter-day unions have proven themselves to be largely corrupt organizations where the officers grant themselves lavish salaries and benefits, and often dip into the till of pension funds. They unanimously support Democrat political candidates (and send them money), while the majority of their members do the opposite.

I have these thoughts as I consider whether to fly my American flag this weekend to celebrate Labor Day.

I think not.
I’m going to celebrate my labor this year….
 
Nope, I'll be working.

Working? I remember when come Sundays for example, everything was closed. If you needed something, you were outta luck. Maybe a restaurant was open but forget hardware stores and stuff. Sundays were for the Lord and to spend with your families. Holidays too were for people to be off--- that is what a holiday means. Oh the irony of not only making people work holidays, but to make them work on Labor Day the very holiday for celebrating being off. Now a holiday means a chance to work and make extra money, at least time and a half if not double time and a half.

No politician ever works a holiday. They never work Sundays. They probably never put in an 8 hour day nor a 5 day 40 hour week. And forget about punching a timeclock. Can you imagine a politician putting in a 6 day 60 hour week?

Meanwhile, in Europe, employers give you 4 weeks off your first year of employment! And they have liberal lunch periods and other benefits not afforded Americana. Americans are the most overworked, over-taxed, over-regulated and over-incarcerated people on the planet.
 
"Observed the first Monday in September, Labor Day is an annual celebration of the social and economic achievements of American workers. The holiday is rooted in the late nineteenth century, when labor activists pushed for a federal holiday to recognize the many contributions workers have made to America’s strength, prosperity, and well-being." (U.S. Dept of Labor website, on the origins of Labor Day).

I have no quarrel with that. In philosophical discussions of the dramatic rise in our American standard of living, Economists generally credit Capitalists, entrepreneurs, and inventors, but one cannot discount the efforts of the MoFo's who actually do the work that brings about the capitalists' and inventors' dreams.

I never actually did any "work" in my long and spotted career, but I respected (and respect) the guys (mainly) in the mills, factories, labs, and fields, and I concur with the concept of setting aside a day each year to commemorate their collective value to the society that we enjoy.

But it seems to me that ORGANIZED (Union) labor has taken over the holiday, and want to convert it from a celebration of good, hard, productive work, to a celebration of socialism in the workplace. Most "hard working Americans" (that the Democrats constantly reference) choose NOT to belong to a Union, but rather to peg their compensation to their actual worth in the workplace. They don't want to work in a place where the laziest and least productive people make the same compensation as the best and most productive, and where much of Management's efforts is directed at innovations that make it difficult or impossible to slack off or sabotage the work.

Last time I checked, less than ten percent of the private sector U,S, workforce belonged to a Union. Many of them would, I suppose if given a chance to join, but it would be ludicrous to suppose that more than half would.

And latter-day unions have proven themselves to be largely corrupt organizations where the officers grant themselves lavish salaries and benefits, and often dip into the till of pension funds. They unanimously support Democrat political candidates (and send them money), while the majority of their members do the opposite.

I have these thoughts as I consider whether to fly my American flag this weekend to celebrate Labor Day.

I think not.
Our local school system garnishes teachers’ wages for union dues and then that union contributes to the DNC. That means tax money gets funneled to the democrats regardless of political affiliation.
Democrats are creepy.
 

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