Lady Liberty they're coming for you.

[Thinker101]

Philip Kennicott, an art and architecture critic who won a Pulitzer Prize in 2013, argues in an essay published Saturday that Lady Liberty stands for "hypocrisy and unfilled promises."

Kennicott’s piece, titled, "Maybe it’s time to admit that the Statue of Liberty has never quite measured up," was accompanied by an illustration of the famous statue resting on someone’s fingertip – as if the statue were only a fraction of an inch tall instead of 151 feet (305 feet including the base).

Haven't we had enough of this BS?

Lady Liberty canceled? Washington Post writer claims statue is ‘meaningless’ symbol of hypocrisy

 

[MarathonMike]

The Woke Mob will not be happy until Lady Liberty has been pulled down and dumped in the harbor. They want do destroy every vestige of America's traditions.

 

[Moonglow]

The tradition of liberty is very confined to those in power that allow anything to facsimile the idea until they shut it down because they change their mind and don't like it. No nation can have a statue of liberty that has a poor past history of not allowing liberty for ALL.

 

[yidnar]

The tradition of liberty is very confined to those in power that allow anything to facsimile the idea until they shut it down because they change their mind and don't like it. No nation can have a statue of liberty that has a poor past history of not allowing liberty for ALL.

so just tear it all down ? is that what you want ?

 

[Moonglow]

The tradition of liberty is very confined to those in power that allow anything to facsimile the idea until they shut it down because they change their mind and don't like it. No nation can have a statue of liberty that has a poor past history of not allowing liberty for ALL.

so just tear it all down ? is that what you want ?

I would like to leave it and let all in the US have liberty to live their lives as they see fit as long as they don't infringe on the rights of other citizens.. That was the idea yet it has never been allowed.

 

[yidnar]

The tradition of liberty is very confined to those in power that allow anything to facsimile the idea until they shut it down because they change their mind and don't like it. No nation can have a statue of liberty that has a poor past history of not allowing liberty for ALL.

so just tear it all down ? is that what you want ?

I would like to leave it and let all in the US have liberty to live their lives as they see fit as long as they don't infringe on the rights of other citizens.. That was the idea yet it has never been allowed.

well pal i hate to tell you the dems aint for live and let live ....anyone that disagrees with them is an evil racist ... while the right thinks the left are useful idiots the left has labeled the right as evil . and labeling someone racist and evil is a lot worse than labeling someone as naive .

 

[BluesLegend]

The Woke Mob will not be happy until Lady Liberty has been pulled down and dumped in the harbor. They want do destroy every vestige of America's traditions.

Hell I'm surprise Dems haven't already done it.

 

[Moonglow]

The tradition of liberty is very confined to those in power that allow anything to facsimile the idea until they shut it down because they change their mind and don't like it. No nation can have a statue of liberty that has a poor past history of not allowing liberty for ALL.

so just tear it all down ? is that what you want ?

I would like to leave it and let all in the US have liberty to live their lives as they see fit as long as they don't infringe on the rights of other citizens.. That was the idea yet it has never been allowed.

well pal i hate to tell you the dems aint for live and let live ....anyone that disagrees with them is an evil racist ... while the right thinks the left are useful idiots the left has labeled the right as evil . and labeling someone racist and evil is a lot worse than labeling someone as naive .

Both sides are misguided by our so called leaders and what's worse is people who go along with it. There is zero shortages of intolerance from both sides along with provocation. That is why I identify with neither.

 

[Ben Thomson]

Think we will ever hear a right wing politician get up in front of a crowd on the border and say..Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.? That's what the article is basically saying..we have become hypocrites when it comes to immigration. Of course we were hypocrites from day one. Our Founding Fathers were slave owners who had the audacity to put the words 'all men are created equal' in their preamble of independence.
.

 

[yidnar]

The tradition of liberty is very confined to those in power that allow anything to facsimile the idea until they shut it down because they change their mind and don't like it. No nation can have a statue of liberty that has a poor past history of not allowing liberty for ALL.

so just tear it all down ? is that what you want ?

I would like to leave it and let all in the US have liberty to live their lives as they see fit as long as they don't infringe on the rights of other citizens.. That was the idea yet it has never been allowed.

well pal i hate to tell you the dems aint for live and let live ....anyone that disagrees with them is an evil racist ... while the right thinks the left are useful idiots the left has labeled the right as evil . and labeling someone racist and evil is a lot worse than labeling someone as naive .

Both sides are misguided by our so called leaders and what's worse is people who go along with it. There is zero shortages of intolerance from both sides along with provocation. That is why I identify with neither.

bull moonglow ... you are leftist to the core .

 

[yidnar]

Think we will ever hear a right wing politician get up in front of a crowd on the border and say..Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.? That's what the article is basically saying..we have become hypocrites when it comes to immigration. Of course we were hypocrites from day one. Our Founding Fathers were slave owners who had the audacity to put the words 'all men are created equal' in their preamble of independence.
.

and those words were laying the foundation for emancipation ...

 

[whoisit]

Ben Thomson History is a good thing to know and a bad thing to guess at/


"you can ignore reality [aka facts],but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality" Ayn Rand.

Your claim is false. We had been left with a nation of war and chaos including many slaves brought to the New World by the Portugal and Spainish slave ships loaded with African slaves ' sold by their black African slave masters all over the world for thousands of years ' in the mid 1600s.
Blacks would've been wise to know their real history before they allowed their race to destroye the best thing that ever happened to all of us. Slavery is not a white thing. We are also the first nation to abolish slavery,then Portugal and Spain later on followed suit.
I have always loved history and studied much of it before it was highjacked and changed by those who want to enslave us all .

 

[pknopp]

We have arguments here that states should be able to limit your Constitutional rights in that state all the time.

We have arguments that we have to allow the police to violate people's civil rights.

I'm missing where the disagreement comes in here.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Wrap it up and put it into storage . it's being used to force us to accept criminal invasion.

 

[whoisit]

Let me introduce you to the lady from France,



Know your subject ,just use google.

 

[Ben Thomson]

Ben Thomson History is a good thing to know and a bad thing to guess at/


"you can ignore reality [aka facts],but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality" Ayn Rand.

Your claim is false. We had been left with a nation of war and chaos including many slaves brought to the New World by the Portugal and Spainish slave ships loaded with African slaves ' sold by their black African slave masters all over the world for thousands of years ' in the mid 1600s.
Blacks would've been wise to know their real history before they allowed their race to destroye the best thing that ever happened to all of us. Slavery is not a white thing. We are also the first nation to abolish slavery,then Portugal and Spain later on followed suit.
I have always loved history and studied much of it before it was highjacked and changed by those who want to enslave us all .

Ben Thomson History is a good thing to know and a bad thing to guess at/


"you can ignore reality [aka facts],but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality" Ayn Rand.

Your claim is false. We had been left with a nation of war and chaos including many slaves brought to the New World by the Portugal and Spainish slave ships loaded with African slaves ' sold by their black African slave masters all over the world for thousands of years ' in the mid 1600s.
Blacks would've been wise to know their real history before they allowed their race to destroye the best thing that ever happened to all of us. Slavery is not a white thing. We are also the first nation to abolish slavery,then Portugal and Spain later on followed suit.
I have always loved history and studied much of it before it was highjacked and changed by those who want to enslave us all .

We were not the first nation to abolish slavery. Spain and Portugal did it around 1817. We didn't do it until 1862 with Lincoln's Proclamation and 1865 with a Constitutional amendment. Actually plenty of other nations/empires abolished the practice..or attempted to going back hundreds of years before we did..

Timeline of abolition of slavery and serfdom - Wikipedia

 

[Decus]

Bartholdi was a salesman and only cared about selling a statue. His original project was for the Suez canal but the deal was never made. So he modified his concept and conned people into believing that the project was destined to celebrate America - pure bullshit but his con worked:

"As the Suez Canal neared completion in 1869, French sculptor Frédéric-Auguste Bartholdi tried to convince Ferdinand de Lesseps and the Egyptian government to let him build a sculpture called “Egypt Bringing Light to Asia” at its Mediterranean entrance. Inspired by the ancient Colossus of Rhodes, Bartholdi envisioned a 90-foot-tall statue of a woman clothed in Egyptian peasant robes and holding a massive torch, which would also serve as a lighthouse to guide ships into the canal. The project never materialized, but Bartholdi continued shopping the idea for his statue, and in 1886 he finally unveiled a completed version in New York Harbor. Officially called “Liberty Enlightening the World,” the monument has since become better known as the Statue of Liberty."

9 Fascinating Facts About the Suez Canal | HISTORY

Facts about the human-built canal that links the Eastern and Western worlds.

www.history.com

The Statue of Liberty is the symbol of one man's efforts to sell a statue to somebody, in fact anybody. It doesn't symbolize anything else.

.

 

[MarathonMike]

No nation can have a statue of liberty that has a poor past history of not allowing liberty for ALL.

Moonglow votes for tearing down the Statue of Liberty.

 

[whoisit]

Details of Brutal First Slave Voyages Discovered | HISTORY

After Charles I of Spain signed an edict allowing slave ships to travel directly from Africa to the Americas, human cargo on transatlantic voyages spiked nearly tenfold.

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Details of Brutal First Slave Voyages Discovered​

After Charles I of Spain signed an edict allowing slave ships to travel directly from Africa to the Americas, human cargo on transatlantic voyages spiked nearly tenfold.
BECKY LITTLE
In August 1518, King Charles I authorized Spain to ship enslaved people directly from Africa to the Americas. The edict marked a new phase in the transatlantic slave trade in which the numbers of enslaved people brought directly to the Americas—without going through a European port first—rose dramatically.
Researchers have uncovered new details about those first direct voyages.

King of Spain Charles as he grants a license to sell Africans as slaves in Spain's American colonies, 1518.
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Historians David Wheat and Marc Eagle have identified about 18 direct voyages from Africa to the Americas in the first several years after Charles I authorized these trips—the earliest such voyages we know about.
The transatlantic slave trade didn’t start in 1518, but it did increase after King Charles authorized direct Africa-to-Caribbean trips that year. In the 1510s and ‘20s, ships sailing from Spain to the Caribbean settlements of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola might contain as few as one or two enslaved people, or as many as 30 or 40.
“By the mid 1520s, we’re seeing 200—sometimes as many as almost 300—captives being brought on the same slave ship [from Africa],” says Wheat, a history professor at Michigan State University. It’s difficult to trace what parts of Africa the captives on board came from, since many were captured on the mainland and shipped to island ports off the coast before Spanish boats took them to the Americas.

“This is also some of our earliest examples of enslaved people throwing themselves overboard, people dying of malnutrition,” Wheat adds. “Some of the same really horrible and violent and brutal aspects of the slave trade that was seen much later on, we’re seeing them already in these voyages from São Tomé in the 1520s.”
São Tomé was a colonial island port off the west coast of Africa that Portugal established in the mid-1400s. Before 1518, Portugal forced enslaved Africans to work on islands in the eastern Atlantic. In addition, Spanish ships brought captive Africans to the Iberian Peninsula, from which they sent some to the Caribbean.

The crowded deck of a slave ship.
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Spain may have increased the number of enslaved Africans it brought to the Caribbean after 1518 because the Native people it had previously enslaved there were dying from European disease and colonial violence. Though it’s not clear how many captive Africans arrived through the 1520s, Wheat estimates the number is in the thousands.
We don’t have many firsthand accounts of Africans in the Americas during this period, but one exception is Rodrigo Lopez, a former enslaved man in Africa’s Cape Verde islands freed in a slaveholder’s will. After he became a free man, he was captured and sent to the Americas, where he was re-enslaved in the late 1520s. Lopez, who could read and write Latin, protested his re-enslavement and won back his freedom in the early ’30s.

“It’s an unusual case because we have not only a person who was of very high status among enslaved people in the Cape Verde islands,” Wheat says, but also because “he sues for his freedom and he writes about it, and that document still survives.” Lopez explained that one of his master’s former employees kidnapped him in the night and sold him into slavery. This was illegal, Lopez argued, because he was free man now.
Most of the enslaved men, women and children in the Caribbean didn’t have the option of suing for their freedom. Still, there were some free people of color in Spanish-American colonies, because race wasn’t yet as closely tied to slave status as it would be during American chattel slavery.

A cocoa plantation in the West Indies.
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“It was considered normal for enslaved people to be black, even though there were enslaved people of other origins,” Wheat says. “But at the same time, it was also normal for there to be small numbers of free people of color in Iberian societies around the Atlantic.”
Wheat and Eagle will publish an essay on their research in a forthcoming book, From the Galleons to the Highlands: Slave Trade Routes in the Spanish Americas in 2019. For the project, they spent a lot of time studying Spanish shipping records and lawsuits from the Caribbean that mentioned slave voyages.
“Most of [the lawsuits] involve either one of two things…corruption or disgruntled investors,” Wheat says. Corruption often involved “officials who had permitted unlicensed slave trading voyages to take place.” Crown officials pursued these types of corruption lawsuits, whereas investors usually sued after losing money on a slave voyage.
Dealing with the “casual brutality” in these records is often difficult, says Eagle, a history professor at Western Kentucky University. Even in a report about a slave revolt, “the whole report is about a captain who’s trying to justify the fact that he’s lost some goods to his investors, and it really is just like he’s talking about merchandise,” he observes.
“When a slaves dies they’ll send somebody to [record] what the brand was on the slave and what they died of and keep a record, and that’s all again for commercial purposes—they can claim that as loss later on,” Eagle continues. “So it is really kind of horrifying to read things like this and realize they’re talking about human beings.”


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[whoisit]

Portugal confronts its role in the transatlantic slave trade

As the world marks the International Day of Remembrance of the Victims of Slavery, more and more Portuguese with African roots are calling or a critical reappraisal of this dark chapter in history.

© picture alliance/CPA Media Co. Ltd Millions of Africans were enslaved during the 15th century transatlantic slave trade
"Portugal has long swept the history of slaves from Africa under the carpet," says Evalina Dias, president of the Lisbon-based association of Afro-descendants, "Djass." A native of Portugal with ancestors from Guinea-Bissau, she is now demanding that Portugal finally face up to its historical responsibilities and thoroughly reappraise the story.


"We know that the structural discrimination of African people today is also the result of the transatlantic slave trade, which was largely introduced by the Portuguese starting in the 15th century," Dias told DW.