Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

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I'm sure you're not a threat to the public. However, in order to restrict firearms from being in the hands of someone who is a threat (and I'm not just talking mass murder, but DV killings, gang killings, etc.) the rights of all need reasonable restriction.
We already have reasonable restriction.

Convicted felons can't buy guns, the adjudicated mentally ill can't buy guns.

People with no criminal record need not be restricted.

So people like the shooter?

You can't restrict a person's right before he has committed a crime.

Should we just let North Korea and Iran have all the weapons they want then?

They already have all the weapons they want

So we shouldn't do anything then right?
 
Just read he had 10 rifles, not hand guns, rifles. Lawyers will be going after some of that $1 billion of that bottom line. Excuse me while I buy some leap puts on MGM Resorts.

It's too bad we can't sue the gun industry as easily.

Why, what did they do? Maybe you’d support suing the manufacturer of the truck used in killing the 84 people in France. Liberal (lack of) logic never ceases to amaze me.

Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel named as truck driver
 
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Because we tend to lock up a lot of nonviolent offenders.

I've repeated this to you many times. We need to employ alternate sentencing for nonviolent crimes and reserve prison space for violent offenders

Sooo, what kind of "alternate sentence" would you give a crack dealer? How about somebody making and distributing cocaine?

If somebody embezzled you and your family out of your life savings what kind of alternate sentence would you give him?

If somebody embezzled you and your family out of your life savings what kind of alternate sentence would you give him?

You cons would make him president
 
We already have reasonable restriction.

Convicted felons can't buy guns, the adjudicated mentally ill can't buy guns.

People with no criminal record need not be restricted.

So people like the shooter?

You can't restrict a person's right before he has committed a crime.

Should we just let North Korea and Iran have all the weapons they want then?

They already have all the weapons they want

So we shouldn't do anything then right?

I already told you what we should do you just don't listen
 
For all this hysteria about Gun Control from the Left after last night (which I agree was horrible)....

I heard on the radio coming home a while ago that there have been only 3 guns used in US massacres since 1937....

ONLY 3 !!

If that's true....you gun nuts are sicker than it might seem at first...and definitely more gullible
 
Just read he had 10 rifles, not hand guns, rifles. Lawyers will be going after some of that $1 billion of that bottom line. Excuse me while I buy some leap puts on MGM Resorts.

It's too bad we can't sue the gun industry as easily.


IF that were allowed, I assure you the Auto Industry and hammer industry and knife industry would be next

Such a stupid argument. Cars are replete with safety features, many mandated by law. Roads have rules for safety and are patrolled by police. If guns were regulated as well there would be fewer problems.

Hey Hutch, why don’t you explain to the families of the 84 killed in France all the safety features of the truck that killed their loved ones....brain dead.
 
For all this hysteria about Gun Control from the Left after last night (which I agree was horrible)....

I heard on the radio coming home a while ago that there have been only 3 guns used in US massacres since 1937....

ONLY 3 !!

If that's true....you gun nuts are sicker than it might seem at first...and definitely more gullible
are you sure they didn't specify fully automatic guns???
 
A modern semi auto with high capacity mags is a mass killer.
I've never seen a rifle semi or not chase anyone down the street and kill anybody… Have you?
People with rifles kill innocent American people.
Did you know that more people are killed by fists and feet than by all types of rifles combines, even the scary black ones?

More people are killed with knives than by all rifles combined

More people are killed with hammers and other blunt objects than by all rifles combined

Didn't know that did ya?
Try killing almost 60 people and injuring over 400 from a 32 floor window using your fists and feet. Or a knife. No American civilian needs automatic or semiautomatic rifles. They couldn't effectively wage a war on our government with them, and they do nothing but allow killing machines to float through our society, to be grabbed up any time someone gets murder in his heart.

Wrong. My cousin has a class III license and a Tommy Gun. (Thompson full-auto submachine gun). Absolutely he has the right to own that. He stormed Normandy on D-Day, he cannot find a crated M1 Garand, which is the weapon he used on that campaign, there's some kind of regulation preventing that. That's not right. Did the shooter obtain the weapons used legally? Is the 64 year-old man even the real shooter?


When he was storming Normandy, he surely did have the right to operate that gun. IMO, as a civilian he does not have the right to own it.
Besides, he's gotta be 80's or 90; should he be using that damned thing?
I know how my 90 year old neighbor used to drive and it was absolutely terrifying.
 
I've never seen a rifle semi or not chase anyone down the street and kill anybody… Have you?
People with rifles kill innocent American people.
Did you know that more people are killed by fists and feet than by all types of rifles combines, even the scary black ones?

More people are killed with knives than by all rifles combined

More people are killed with hammers and other blunt objects than by all rifles combined

Didn't know that did ya?
Try killing almost 60 people and injuring over 400 from a 32 floor window using your fists and feet. Or a knife. No American civilian needs automatic or semiautomatic rifles. They couldn't effectively wage a war on our government with them, and they do nothing but allow killing machines to float through our society, to be grabbed up any time someone gets murder in his heart.

Wrong. My cousin has a class III license and a Tommy Gun. (Thompson full-auto submachine gun). Absolutely he has the right to own that. He stormed Normandy on D-Day, he cannot find a crated M1 Garand, which is the weapon he used on that campaign, there's some kind of regulation preventing that. That's not right. Did the shooter obtain the weapons used legally? Is the 64 year-old man even the real shooter?


When he was storming Normandy, he surely did have the right to operate that gun. IMO, as a civilian he does not have the right to own it.
Besides, he's gotta be 80's or 90; should he be using that damned thing?
I know how my 90 year old neighbor used to drive and it was absolutely terrifying.


well you know what I say about opinions......
 
Drug Legalization, Criminalization, and Harm Reduction
tell me did alcohol prohibition reduce or increase crime?
why do you think the prohibition on drugs doesn't increase crime just like the prohibition on alcohol did?

I don't know skull......seems to me you'd just have millions more drugged up morons behind the wheel etc.

All these "studies" seem to omit one very important thing....human nature.

If (and it's impossible), but IF....these people could all use their drugs responsibly (lol) and in ways that wouldn't cause anyone else harm (lol LOL)...then maybe

But we can count on everyone being responsible in America, can't we?
 
It doesn’t matter if the guy was a Republican or a Democrat. What he was was crazy and 50 of more people are dead regardless of which political party he may have belonged to. What needs to be done is something to try and prevent nut cases like him from getting their hands on military grade weapons.


Like laws keeping gun out of mentally unstable people? Laws which the NRA opposes.


Back a year or two ago the Republicans introduced a bill to greatly improve the reporting of the mentally ill and to incorporate that data into the NICS system but the Democrats voted it down with Cloture.

So that pretty well means that the Democrats are against keeping guns out of mentally unstable people, doesn't it?


Senate rejects gun control background check measures

Senate rejects gun control background check measures

But Democrats resoundingly rejected the GOP background check measure, arguing it would do little to make sure potential criminals or terrorists couldn’t buy a gun.


So you post an article that doesn't prove your point?


The point is that Democrats opposed an improvement in the mental health accountability to the NICS system so don't blame the NRA.


Your article stated the Democratic lawmakers opposed a bill that would have doing nothing and supported a bill with teeth in it.

Your answer to that is what?


You have to remember that Democrats lie. When those bastards tell you that a bill "will do nothing" then they are lying.

Surely you are not one on of these stupid delusional Moon Bats that think Democrats are honest, are you? I bet you voted for Crooked Hillary, didn't you?
 
Drug Legalization, Criminalization, and Harm Reduction
tell me did alcohol prohibition reduce or increase crime?
why do you think the prohibition on drugs doesn't increase crime just like the prohibition on alcohol did?

I don't know skull......seems to me you'd just have millions more drugged up morons behind the wheel etc.

All these "studies" seem to omit one very important thing....human nature.

If (and it's impossible), but IF....these people could all use their drugs responsibly (lol) and in ways that wouldn't cause anyone else harm (lol LOL)...then maybe

But we can count on everyone being responsible in American can't we?

No more than we already have.

The so called war on drugs has not reduced the rate of use or the availability of drugs. it is an utter failure.
 
Judy? LOL. But Hutch is literate. That's foolish.

Looks like Paddock could be a pink pussy hat wearing anti Trump asshole





Nahh, Pink hat-wearer's nose is too wide. Facial structure is same, nose is too wide.

Ol' Flash is full of shit today. Never did give me a link on his claim that ANTIFA was taking responsibility.



You are confused Moon Bat.

I posted the message from the Melbourne ANTIFA. You didn't pay attention. We know the asshole lived in Florida so that establishes some degree of credibility. I don't know if it is true or the reports from ISIS are true. We will find out soon. If he is a Left Wing asshole like that hateful Negro that shot up the church last week or the anti Trump piece of shit that shot up the Congressmen then expect it to be covered up by the Liberal media.


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I'm guessing that guy was as ANTIFA as I am the Queen of Sheba. Isn't Melbourne in Australia? What in hell has Florida got to do with anything?



The guy lived in Melbourne Florida. His brother lives in Orlando not too far away. Australia is not the only country in the world with a city named Melbourne.

I don't know if he was ANTIFA or not. However, shooting people is the kind of hate we would expect to see from those Left Wing assholes and somebody in the place where the shooter lived says that he was ANTIFA.

Sometimes these early reports are accurate and sometimes they are not. We will see. We do know that ANTIFA is a terrorist organization so I wouldn't put anything beyond them.

I have never heard of an ANTIFA person shooting anyone in this country in protest. Also, YOU have deemed ANTIFA a terrorist organization, but I don't believe the authorities have. Not that I approve of their tactics, but let's stay accurate here.
 
People with rifles kill innocent American people.
Did you know that more people are killed by fists and feet than by all types of rifles combines, even the scary black ones?

More people are killed with knives than by all rifles combined

More people are killed with hammers and other blunt objects than by all rifles combined

Didn't know that did ya?
Try killing almost 60 people and injuring over 400 from a 32 floor window using your fists and feet. Or a knife. No American civilian needs automatic or semiautomatic rifles. They couldn't effectively wage a war on our government with them, and they do nothing but allow killing machines to float through our society, to be grabbed up any time someone gets murder in his heart.

Wrong. My cousin has a class III license and a Tommy Gun. (Thompson full-auto submachine gun). Absolutely he has the right to own that. He stormed Normandy on D-Day, he cannot find a crated M1 Garand, which is the weapon he used on that campaign, there's some kind of regulation preventing that. That's not right. Did the shooter obtain the weapons used legally? Is the 64 year-old man even the real shooter?


When he was storming Normandy, he surely did have the right to operate that gun. IMO, as a civilian he does not have the right to own it.
Besides, he's gotta be 80's or 90; should he be using that damned thing?
I know how my 90 year old neighbor used to drive and it was absolutely terrifying.


well you know what I say about opinions......

I wasn't talking to you.
And my opinion is as good as yours.
 
Last time I checked I didn't have to have my fingerprints on file with the state cops in order to get my drivers license as I had to for my carry permit.

I bet you don't need a title or registration for that weapon either.





Nope, but you don't need to have your fingerprints on file with the authorities either. You do for a CCW.

As it should be. Are you suggesting background checks for car registration?

The thing is you don't have a right to drive a car on public property where you do have the right to own firearms

there is a difference

The point is there is room for more regulation without a loss of the right.
there are more 'regulations' on firearms than any other piece of merchandise.

What is needed, is for those regulations to be enforced
 
There are saying on the media they he broke one window but we see two broken Windows

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58 people are dead and more than 515 are injured after a mass shooting in Las Vegas
The two windows thing is very interesting and allows lots of conspiracy theories.
 
I bet you don't need a title or registration for that weapon either.





Nope, but you don't need to have your fingerprints on file with the authorities either. You do for a CCW.

As it should be. Are you suggesting background checks for car registration?

The thing is you don't have a right to drive a car on public property where you do have the right to own firearms

there is a difference

The point is there is room for more regulation without a loss of the right.
there are more 'regulations' on firearms than any other piece of merchandise.

What is needed, is for those regulations to be enforced

Which ones would have helped with this event?
 
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