Law abiding people can't get a gun in New York, but a 12 year old criminal can. NYC gun control?

[2aguy]

Yep...this playful youngster had gun...was carrying it illegally......and used it in an attempted robbery of chicken mcnuggets.....

So, anti gunners, tell us how good New York City gun laws are, in particular their concealed carry laws that keep people like John Stossel from getting a concealed carry permit...but this 12 year old walks around packing a gun......

Armed 12-Year-Old in Harlem Busted After Attempted McNugget Heist

So...does anyone think that this kid will one day cross that line and murder innocent people?

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

 

[Conservative65]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

 

[Conservative65]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

Tell that to the families of the victims in Chicago despite their laws?

 

[The Great Goose]

That kid should have asked for the til.

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

Tell that to the families of the victims in Chicago despite their laws?

Families of the victims? Most of those victims had guns.

 

[2aguy]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

And yet a 12 year old is walking around with a gun.....and John Stossel, a law abiding citizen, can't get a permit to carry a gun, despite death threats.......

 

[Conservative65]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

Tell that to the families of the victims in Chicago despite their laws?

Families of the victims? Most of those victims had guns.

Despite the strict gun laws. Tells me they don't work. Thanks for proving that.

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

And yet a 12 year old is walking around with a gun.....and John Stossel, a law abiding citizen, can't get a permit to carry a gun, despite death threats.......

Shit happens.

Police have not found a gun yet btw.

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

Tell that to the families of the victims in Chicago despite their laws?

Families of the victims? Most of those victims had guns.

Despite the strict gun laws. Tells me they don't work. Thanks for proving that.

Then why are you bitching? 400 million guns in this country. Easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world. That's the best argument against gun control we have.

 

[boedicca]

Yep...this playful youngster had gun...was carrying it illegally......and used it in an attempted robbery of chicken mcnuggets.....

So, anti gunners, tell us how good New York City gun laws are, in particular their concealed carry laws that keep people like John Stossel from getting a concealed carry permit...but this 12 year old walks around packing a gun......

Armed 12-Year-Old in Harlem Busted After Attempted McNugget Heist

So...does anyone think that this kid will one day cross that line and murder innocent people?

Haven't you figured it out yet? Gun Control isn't really about controlling guns...it's about controlling Deplorable People who do not support the Prog Agenda.

 

[2aguy]

What's the murder rate in New Y..... actually meh, nvm

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

And yet a 12 year old is walking around with a gun.....and John Stossel, a law abiding citizen, can't get a permit to carry a gun, despite death threats.......

Shit happens.

Police have not found a gun yet btw.

Hey moron....I already posted about New York...they are doing what we have been saying...they are going after actual criminals who use guns...and their gun murder rate is going down....where as you morons care more about John Stossel not getting a gun.......like Chicago.....so their gun murder rate increased....

New York does what 2nd Amendment supporters say, they arrest actual gun criminals, murder rate drops

 

[2aguy]

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

Tell that to the families of the victims in Chicago despite their laws?

Families of the victims? Most of those victims had guns.

Despite the strict gun laws. Tells me they don't work. Thanks for proving that.

Then why are you bitching? 400 million guns in this country. Easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world. That's the best argument against gun control we have.

It isn't guns...it is arresting criminals and keeping them locked up....


New York City Busts Gangs, Reduces "Gun Violence." Who Knew? - The Truth About Guns


Scores of gang takedowns this year, resulting in about 900 arrests, took violent people off the streets and made it more costly to engage in gang-related crimes, police officials said.

“Precision policing targets those people who are responsible for the violence, which in a significant amount of cases are gangs,” said Stephen P. Davis, the department’s chief spokesman. “By going after the gang members, arresting them, we recognize the resultant reduction in violence.”

Perhaps a word or two about New York City’s incarceration rate would be valuable here? Arresting gang bangers is one thing. Allowing them to return to the streets quite another. No? Oh well. How about some irrelevant data, then?

Murders and shootings on the street, in public housing and in commercial locations all dropped last year through Dec. 28. Murders on playgrounds climbed to 12, from three the year before, and also rose in dwellings and in vehicles. More broadly, murders indoors ticked up by 19, while outdoor murders fell by 49 . . .

The biggest share of murders were motivated by what the police call a “dispute.” Of those, the largest share had to do with words that were exchanged, followed by disputes over a man or woman, over money, and over a previous history. Five murders in 2016 were deemed to be motivated by a stare or a disrespectful act, two by gambling and two by road rage.

Just under a third of the shooting cases last year were closed with an arrest, and 22 percent of the cases were closed because the police had exhausted all leads. Forty percent of the murder cases were closed with an arrest, and eight others were termed an exceptional clearance, a category that would include cases in which the person suspected of being the killer was murdered before an arrest was made.

Exceptional clearance indeed. Now, if the media and politicians would just clear up any misconceptions about “easy access to guns” being responsible for the vast majority of The Big Apple’s firearms-related murders — as opposed to the existence of free range gang bangers — our work here would be done. And the judicial system’s just beginning. Again.

 

[Conservative65]

So you can't explain how the laws you support get the job done? That's because they don't.

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

Tell that to the families of the victims in Chicago despite their laws?

Families of the victims? Most of those victims had guns.

Despite the strict gun laws. Tells me they don't work. Thanks for proving that.

Then why are you bitching? 400 million guns in this country. Easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world. That's the best argument against gun control we have.

And you think the laws you support will stop criminals from getting guns. I had one stolen from my car about 3 years ago. It was stored in a locked vehicle, on private property, and the POS stealing it took something that didn't belong to him/her. I was abiding by the laws in place. The POS that stole it wasn't doing so. What law put in place would have stopped them from stealing it?

 

[Conservative65]

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

Tell that to the families of the victims in Chicago despite their laws?

Families of the victims? Most of those victims had guns.

Despite the strict gun laws. Tells me they don't work. Thanks for proving that.

Then why are you bitching? 400 million guns in this country. Easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world. That's the best argument against gun control we have.

It isn't guns...it is arresting criminals and keeping them locked up....


New York City Busts Gangs, Reduces "Gun Violence." Who Knew? - The Truth About Guns


Scores of gang takedowns this year, resulting in about 900 arrests, took violent people off the streets and made it more costly to engage in gang-related crimes, police officials said.

“Precision policing targets those people who are responsible for the violence, which in a significant amount of cases are gangs,” said Stephen P. Davis, the department’s chief spokesman. “By going after the gang members, arresting them, we recognize the resultant reduction in violence.”

Perhaps a word or two about New York City’s incarceration rate would be valuable here? Arresting gang bangers is one thing. Allowing them to return to the streets quite another. No? Oh well. How about some irrelevant data, then?

Murders and shootings on the street, in public housing and in commercial locations all dropped last year through Dec. 28. Murders on playgrounds climbed to 12, from three the year before, and also rose in dwellings and in vehicles. More broadly, murders indoors ticked up by 19, while outdoor murders fell by 49 . . .

The biggest share of murders were motivated by what the police call a “dispute.” Of those, the largest share had to do with words that were exchanged, followed by disputes over a man or woman, over money, and over a previous history. Five murders in 2016 were deemed to be motivated by a stare or a disrespectful act, two by gambling and two by road rage.

Just under a third of the shooting cases last year were closed with an arrest, and 22 percent of the cases were closed because the police had exhausted all leads. Forty percent of the murder cases were closed with an arrest, and eight others were termed an exceptional clearance, a category that would include cases in which the person suspected of being the killer was murdered before an arrest was made.

Exceptional clearance indeed. Now, if the media and politicians would just clear up any misconceptions about “easy access to guns” being responsible for the vast majority of The Big Apple’s firearms-related murders — as opposed to the existence of free range gang bangers — our work here would be done. And the judicial system’s just beginning. Again.

OldSchool is one of those dumbasses that thinks the gun is at fault and can shoot itself. Seems it didn't get an "education" but was indoctrinated.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Get what job done? A historically low murder rate? That job?

Tell that to the families of the victims in Chicago despite their laws?

Families of the victims? Most of those victims had guns.

Despite the strict gun laws. Tells me they don't work. Thanks for proving that.

Then why are you bitching? 400 million guns in this country. Easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world. That's the best argument against gun control we have.

And you think the laws you support will stop criminals from getting guns. I had one stolen from my car about 3 years ago. It was stored in a locked vehicle, on private property, and the POS stealing it took something that didn't belong to him/her. I was abiding by the laws in place. The POS that stole it wasn't doing so. What law put in place would have stopped them from stealing it?

Oh you let a criminal get their hands on your gun? Good job bro.

 

[Conservative65]

Tell that to the families of the victims in Chicago despite their laws?

Families of the victims? Most of those victims had guns.

Despite the strict gun laws. Tells me they don't work. Thanks for proving that.

Then why are you bitching? 400 million guns in this country. Easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world. That's the best argument against gun control we have.

And you think the laws you support will stop criminals from getting guns. I had one stolen from my car about 3 years ago. It was stored in a locked vehicle, on private property, and the POS stealing it took something that didn't belong to him/her. I was abiding by the laws in place. The POS that stole it wasn't doing so. What law put in place would have stopped them from stealing it?

Oh you let a criminal get their hands on your gun? Good job bro.

I abided by the laws. The criminal didn't. It's easy to tell I didn't let him.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Families of the victims? Most of those victims had guns.

Despite the strict gun laws. Tells me they don't work. Thanks for proving that.

Then why are you bitching? 400 million guns in this country. Easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world. That's the best argument against gun control we have.

And you think the laws you support will stop criminals from getting guns. I had one stolen from my car about 3 years ago. It was stored in a locked vehicle, on private property, and the POS stealing it took something that didn't belong to him/her. I was abiding by the laws in place. The POS that stole it wasn't doing so. What law put in place would have stopped them from stealing it?

Oh you let a criminal get their hands on your gun? Good job bro.

I abided by the laws. The criminal didn't. It's easy to tell I didn't let him.

Guns TheOldSchool has allowed to fall into criminal hands: 0
Guns Conservative65 has allowed to fall into criminal hands: 1

I wonder how many people have been murdered thanks to your gun. Tell us, do you still keep your guns in your car?

 

[Conservative65]

Despite the strict gun laws. Tells me they don't work. Thanks for proving that.

Then why are you bitching? 400 million guns in this country. Easier for a criminal to get a gun here than anywhere in the world. That's the best argument against gun control we have.

And you think the laws you support will stop criminals from getting guns. I had one stolen from my car about 3 years ago. It was stored in a locked vehicle, on private property, and the POS stealing it took something that didn't belong to him/her. I was abiding by the laws in place. The POS that stole it wasn't doing so. What law put in place would have stopped them from stealing it?

Oh you let a criminal get their hands on your gun? Good job bro.

I abided by the laws. The criminal didn't. It's easy to tell I didn't let him.

Guns TheOldSchool has allowed to fall into criminal hands: 0
Guns Conservative65 has allowed to fall into criminal hands: 1

I wonder how many people have been murdered thanks to your gun. Tell us, do you still keep your guns in your car?

For it to have fallen, I would have had to have done something wrong. I didn't. That makes your claim invalid.

I still keep one in my car. The law allows me to do so. The law still doesn't allow the crime you justify and blame the law abider while ignoring the law breaker. Typical Liberal POS. Blame the one following the laws and justify the actions of the ones that don't.

I can also prove to you that it wasn't anything I did wrong.