Legit. Qst. regarding gun ownership.....

[Grizz]

A few days ago, Trump suggested his "strategy" to curb gun violence in Chicago; that is, to institute a "stop and frisk" policy throughout the crime-ridden city.

My question, however, is one of simple"logic": How can the same person be in favor of "open-carry" or "conceal-and-carry" of weapons, AND then also be in favor of "stop-n-frisk"?

If there is "logic" in that double-standard, the only logic would be all-out "profiling".....

One must have an open carry permit.....if one doesn't one is in violation.
In Chicago methinks that on the South Side TRump's "stop and frisk makes sense".

 

[Onyx]

So tell us what you think should be done in Chicago. That the left won't consider racist profiling.

My opinion is that the state should be abolished.

It is the cause of all the ire in Chicago.

 

[JBond]

Look how quickly republicans succumb to the idea of illegal search and seizure. Embarrassing.

Damn you are stupid. You make up random shit in your head and pretend it is real. Go read Terry vs Ohio you stupid turd.

 

[Onyx]

I believe everyone should follow the law even if they disagree with it.

So you believe everyone should stay subservient no matter how abusive the state becomes?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Look how quickly republicans succumb to the idea of illegal search and seizure. Embarrassing.

Stop and frisk has worked before. You don't like it, what are your ideas to stop the violence in Chicago?

Lots of horrific things have worked before. What other unconstitutional things would you like to do besides stop and frisk? Are there certain groups you want to strip some freedoms from?

So you admit it works but you don't give a fuck about all the live being lost. Thanks for being honest.

Lol so you align yourself with the most horrific massacres and genocides in history, but it's okay to you because "it works."

You should lose your citizenship for that. You hold the complete opposite beliefs to what this nation was founded upon. Go fuck yourself.

 

[Auld Phart]

depends on the state law

The question still applies.

Do you believe a state should be able to strip someone of their right to bear arms if they do not possess a government issued permit?

Have they broken a law, that would prevent them from having the right to bear arms?

Where I live, there is both open carry, and concealed carry.

Open carry, if your shirt tail, or jacket covers the weapon, and you don't have a CCW, you can be arrested.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Look how quickly republicans succumb to the idea of illegal search and seizure. Embarrassing.

Damn you are stupid. You make up random shit in your head and pretend it is real. Go read Terry vs Ohio you stupid turd.

Go read Floyd vs. City of New York you idiot

 

[Grizz]

Look how quickly republicans succumb to the idea of illegal search and seizure. Embarrassing.

Stop and frisk has worked before. You don't like it, what are your ideas to stop the violence in Chicago?

Lots of horrific things have worked before. What other unconstitutional things would you like to do besides stop and frisk? Are there certain groups you want to strip some freedoms from?

So you admit it works but you don't give a fuck about all the live being lost. Thanks for being honest.

Lol so you align yourself with the most horrific massacres and genocides in history, but it's okay to you because "it works."

You should lose your citizenship for that. You hold the complete opposite beliefs to what this nation was founded upon. Go fuck yourself.

Come take our "citizenship" bitch

 

[JBond]

depends on the state law

The question still applies.

Do you believe a state should be able to strip someone of their right to bear arms if they do not possess a government issued permit?

I believe everyone should follow the law even if they disagree with it.

I dont need the government's permission to exercise my Constitution right. We have Constitutional Carry. You must live in one of those backasswards nanny states.

 

[Onyx]

Have they broken a law, that would prevent them from having the right to bear arms?

It depends.

Is the government the proper moral authority on who should and should not have the tools to defend themselves?

 

[JBond]

Look how quickly republicans succumb to the idea of illegal search and seizure. Embarrassing.

Damn you are stupid. You make up random shit in your head and pretend it is real. Go read Terry vs Ohio you stupid turd.

Go read Floyd vs. City of New York you idiot

It has absolutely nothing to do with Terry vs Ohio. Try again loser.

 

[Rocko]

I believe everyone should follow the law even if they disagree with it.

So you believe everyone should stay subservient no matter how abusive the state becomes?

This country doesn't have anarchy. If you think the law is unjust then you should work to change it.

 

[Auld Phart]

Have they broken a law, that would prevent them from having the right to bear arms?

It depends.

Is the government the proper moral authority on who should and should not have the tools to defend themselves?

You've already stated you want to do away with the state, what 'moral authority' would you follow?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Look how quickly republicans succumb to the idea of illegal search and seizure. Embarrassing.

Stop and frisk has worked before. You don't like it, what are your ideas to stop the violence in Chicago?

Lots of horrific things have worked before. What other unconstitutional things would you like to do besides stop and frisk? Are there certain groups you want to strip some freedoms from?

So you admit it works but you don't give a fuck about all the live being lost. Thanks for being honest.

Lol so you align yourself with the most horrific massacres and genocides in history, but it's okay to you because "it works."

You should lose your citizenship for that. You hold the complete opposite beliefs to what this nation was founded upon. Go fuck yourself.

Come take our "citizenship" bitch

That would be "unconstitutional." Congratulations.

 

[Grizz]

Stop and frisk has worked before. You don't like it, what are your ideas to stop the violence in Chicago?

Lots of horrific things have worked before. What other unconstitutional things would you like to do besides stop and frisk? Are there certain groups you want to strip some freedoms from?

So you admit it works but you don't give a fuck about all the live being lost. Thanks for being honest.

Lol so you align yourself with the most horrific massacres and genocides in history, but it's okay to you because "it works."

You should lose your citizenship for that. You hold the complete opposite beliefs to what this nation was founded upon. Go fuck yourself.

Come take our "citizenship" bitch

That would be "unconstitutional." Congratulations.

Tell it to "Slick Willy" sport.

 

[Onyx]

This country doesn't have anarchy.

It has something far worse.

State slavery.

If you think the law is unjust then you should work to change it.

I do not have the money or power to hijack the system.

The common man is an irrelevant statistic to the machine.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Look how quickly republicans succumb to the idea of illegal search and seizure. Embarrassing.

Damn you are stupid. You make up random shit in your head and pretend it is real. Go read Terry vs Ohio you stupid turd.

Go read Floyd vs. City of New York you idiot

It has absolutely nothing to do with Terry vs Ohio. Try again loser.

Neither does our conversation. Terry vs. Ohio has nothing to do with random stop and frisk.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

So tell us what you think should be done in Chicago. That the left won't consider racist profiling.

My opinion is that the state should be abolished.

It is the cause of all the ire in Chicago.

How does that work ?.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A few days ago, Trump suggested his "strategy" to curb gun violence in Chicago; that is, to institute a "stop and frisk" policy throughout the crime-ridden city.

My question, however, is one of simple"logic": How can the same person be in favor of "open-carry" or "conceal-and-carry" of weapons, AND then also be in favor of "stop-n-frisk"?

If there is "logic" in that double-standard, the only logic would be all-out "profiling".....

Not at all. Open Carry is for citizens legal to posses firearms. Stop and Frisk is a way to deter those not legal to carry a firearm from doing so. I don't see the hypocrisy at all.

 

[Grizz]

"On July 14, 1994, President Clinton's Deputy Attorney General and later 9/11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee that “The Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports, that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes … and that the president may, as has been done, delegate this authority to the Attorney General.” This “inherent authority” was used to search the home of CIA spy Aldrich Ames without a warrant. "It is important to understand", Gorelick continued, "that the rules and methodology for criminal searches are inconsistent with the collection of foreign intelligence and would unduly frustrate the president in carrying out his foreign intelligence responsibilities"

Dumbass