Let's Be Honest, The Dem Establishment Cannot Win by Ganging Up Against Sanders

[Lewdog]

It appears that the moderates are dropping out trying to consolidate votes under Biden to combine their power to stop Sanders. Let's be very honest here, this might mean Biden is able to win a contested convention, but Sanders' supporters who see the Democratic establishment cares more about what politicians want than the people do, will never support or vote for Biden against Trump. When you have such a large percentage of voters who support Sanders sees that the Democratic party will do whatever it takes to keep him from winning, there is no way Biden will be able to beat Trump... so despite the rhetoric being perpetuated by the media, and most specifically MSNBC, Sanders is really the only person who has a shot at beating Trump. It's much easier for Sanders to take his 35% base and add 15% other voters to win, than to see Biden try to get enough of Sanders' 35% base to devote their votes to him.

We know that a person with a 30%-35% base along with enough voters that will vote whomever their party puts in the race, can win... it is how Trump was elected.

Pretty much of all of America will be turning against him. Which part of "LAND OF THE FREE" does he not understand? He can take his snakes oil to where there are buyers.

The democratic party... a other not only American but anti-democratic construct... now eaten by all the people they indoctrinated to socialism.

Educated voters know that Presidents will never bring everything they campaign on to fruition... because Congress are the ones who write and pass the laws. With that said, the majority of the country is heavily invested in getting as many people as possible covered with health insurance and that preexisting conditions continue to be covered. The majority of voters believe the top 1% along with the largest companies in the U.S. be taxed more and pay their employees more... there is NO REASON why a person that works for a company like Amazon is forced to also get social welfare benefits just to be able to get by. So not only are large companies not contributing to the government, they are forcing the government to make up for things they should already provide. The majority of Americans also believe that more should be invested in Pre-K, better schools, and more opportunities for secondary education.

We already live in a socialist society, the only difference is the one we live in now is socialism for the rich.

Are you trying to win an election? No need to talk like a politician here, you can say something that actually means something rather than this bullshit.

No bullshit at all. The only politics on this forum is the ones from Trump supporters who would rather complain about a family getting $200 in food stamps, rather than being angry that a company like Amazon in 2018...:

"In 2018, Amazon paid $0 in U.S. federal income tax on more than $11 billion in profits before taxes. It also received a $129 million tax rebate from the federal government."

So not only did Amazon NOT pay any federal taxes... the government GAVE them $129 million, all while many of their employees also lived on federal social welfare programs like food stamps. I know why you pick on poor people instead of large corporations... it's easier to do.

"Big companies have long relied on strategies to reduce their tax bills. But the new tax law is making it even easier, with a new analysis finding that 60 profitable Fortune 500 companies paid no taxes on a total of $79 billion of profits earned in 2018.

The companies, which include tech giants such as Amazon and Netflix, should have paid a collective $16.4 billion in federal income taxes based on the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act's 21 percent corporate tax rate, according to the left-leaning Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. Instead, these corporations received a net tax rebate of $4.3 billion. The analysis is based on the corporations' annual financial reports, which were filed earlier this year to report their 2018 results."

60 of America's biggest companies paid no federal income tax in 2018

 

[Mac-7]

It appears that the moderates are dropping out trying to consolidate votes under Biden to combine their power to stop Sanders. Let's be very honest here, this might mean Biden is able to win a contested convention, but Sanders' supporters who see the Democratic establishment cares more about what politicians want than the people do, will never support or vote for Biden against Trump. When you have such a large percentage of voters who support Sanders sees that the Democratic party will do whatever it takes to keep him from winning, there is no way Biden will be able to beat Trump... so despite the rhetoric being perpetuated by the media, and most specifically MSNBC, Sanders is really the only person who has a shot at beating Trump. It's much easier for Sanders to take his 35% base and add 15% other voters to win, than to see Biden try to get enough of Sanders' 35% base to devote their votes to him.

We know that a person with a 30%-35% base along with enough voters that will vote whomever their party puts in the race, can win... it is how Trump was elected.

Pretty much of all of America will be turning against him. Which part of "LAND OF THE FREE" does he not understand? He can take his snakes oil to where there are buyers.

The democratic party... a other not only American but anti-democratic construct... now eaten by all the people they indoctrinated to socialism.

Educated voters know that Presidents will never bring everything they campaign on to fruition... because Congress are the ones who write and pass the laws. With that said, the majority of the country is heavily invested in getting as many people as possible covered with health insurance and that preexisting conditions continue to be covered. The majority of voters believe the top 1% along with the largest companies in the U.S. be taxed more and pay their employees more... there is NO REASON why a person that works for a company like Amazon is forced to also get social welfare benefits just to be able to get by. So not only are large companies not contributing to the government, they are forcing the government to make up for things they should already provide. The majority of Americans also believe that more should be invested in Pre-K, better schools, and more opportunities for secondary education.

We already live in a socialist society, the only difference is the one we live in now is socialism for the rich.

Are you trying to win an election? No need to talk like a politician here, you can say something that actually means something rather than this bullshit.

No bullshit at all. The only politics on this forum is the ones from Trump supporters who would rather complain about a family getting $200 in food stamps, rather than being angry that a company like Amazon in 2018...:

"In 2018, Amazon paid $0 in U.S. federal income tax on more than $11 billion in profits before taxes. It also received a $129 million tax rebate from the federal government."

So not only did Amazon NOT pay any federal taxes... the government GAVE them $129 million, all while many of their employees also lived on federal social welfare programs like food stamps. I know why you pick on poor people instead of large corporations... it's easier to do.

"Big companies have long relied on strategies to reduce their tax bills. But the new tax law is making it even easier, with a new analysis finding that 60 profitable Fortune 500 companies paid no taxes on a total of $79 billion of profits earned in 2018.

The companies, which include tech giants such as Amazon and Netflix, should have paid a collective $16.4 billion in federal income taxes based on the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act's 21 percent corporate tax rate, according to the left-leaning Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. Instead, these corporations received a net tax rebate of $4.3 billion. The analysis is based on the corporations' annual financial reports, which were filed earlier this year to report their 2018 results."

60 of America's biggest companies paid no federal income tax in 2018

Corporations should pay zero income tax since they just add the tax to consumers bill

But agree that the tax code is confusing and often unfair

a better system would be a flat tax with no exemptions to any individual or company for anything

 

[Osiris-ODS]

You know, the one person I'm watching closely in this race is Bloomberg. Why? Because he promised to support the Dem candidate, even if it wasn't him. And, he said that even if he did drop out of the race, he would continue to financially support the campaign so that Trump could be beat.

Gonna be interesting to see what he does if he doesn't get the nomination, and it kinda looks like he won't. It will be interesting to see if he keeps his word in supporting the Dem nominee.

Bloomberg has already spent half-a-billion in advertising to date, and it hasn't done much of anything to change overall public opinion on things like Trump's job approval (according to polling averages). Money can only do so much in presidential campaigns, and throwing more money at political ads doesn't necessarily make it more effective. If anything, flooding people with political ads can cause them to get annoyed or just tune it out altogether.

 

[gipper]

Sanders will, in the end, get more democratic voters.


. . . and they will have to strip it of him, and that will cost them the election, b/c NO ONE will come out and vote for Biden, not even the majority of their own party.

If Bernie wins and the powers that be take it away from him, this just might kill the D Party. That certainly would be beneficial.

 

[easyt65]

It appears that the moderates are dropping out trying to consolidate votes under Biden to combine their power to stop Sanders. Let's be very honest here, this might mean Biden is able to win a contested convention, but Sanders' supporters who see the Democratic establishment cares more about what politicians want than the people do, will never support or vote for Biden against Trump. When you have such a large percentage of voters who support Sanders sees that the Democratic party will do whatever it takes to keep him from winning, there is no way Biden will be able to beat Trump... so despite the rhetoric being perpetuated by the media, and most specifically MSNBC, Sanders is really the only person who has a shot at beating Trump. It's much easier for Sanders to take his 35% base and add 15% other voters to win, than to see Biden try to get enough of Sanders' 35% base to devote their votes to him.

We know that a person with a 30%-35% base along with enough voters that will vote whomever their party puts in the race, can win... it is how Trump was elected.

Ummmmm.....the DNC / Democrats 'ganged up' on Bernie in 2016 & screwed him out of a nomination...

What makes you think they aren't going to again in 2020?


.....and did you seriously attempt to compare anyone left in the Democratic Party race to Trump?

The Democrats have no one who can beat Trump.

 

[Lewdog]

It appears that the moderates are dropping out trying to consolidate votes under Biden to combine their power to stop Sanders. Let's be very honest here, this might mean Biden is able to win a contested convention, but Sanders' supporters who see the Democratic establishment cares more about what politicians want than the people do, will never support or vote for Biden against Trump. When you have such a large percentage of voters who support Sanders sees that the Democratic party will do whatever it takes to keep him from winning, there is no way Biden will be able to beat Trump... so despite the rhetoric being perpetuated by the media, and most specifically MSNBC, Sanders is really the only person who has a shot at beating Trump. It's much easier for Sanders to take his 35% base and add 15% other voters to win, than to see Biden try to get enough of Sanders' 35% base to devote their votes to him.

We know that a person with a 30%-35% base along with enough voters that will vote whomever their party puts in the race, can win... it is how Trump was elected.

Ummmmm.....the DNC / Democrats 'ganged up' on Bernie in 2016 & screwed him out of a nomination...

What makes you think they aren't going to again in 2020?


.....and did you seriously attempt to compare anyone left in the Democratic Party race to Trump?

The Democrats have no one who can beat Trump.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Everyone else that has responded to this thread understands my post except you.

...and yes I can compare Bernie's situation to Trumps pretty easily, because it's true. To win tight elections you have to focus on the margins. It was a tactic that was used a long time ago by the Prohibitionists' movement and later in the Southern strategy by the Nixon campaign. When you have a very dedicated base that will support you no matter what, you don't spend time and money campaigning to them, you go after the small undecided or fringe voters of the opponent and try to woo them to your side.

 

[easyt65]

It appears that the moderates are dropping out trying to consolidate votes under Biden to combine their power to stop Sanders. Let's be very honest here, this might mean Biden is able to win a contested convention, but Sanders' supporters who see the Democratic establishment cares more about what politicians want than the people do, will never support or vote for Biden against Trump. When you have such a large percentage of voters who support Sanders sees that the Democratic party will do whatever it takes to keep him from winning, there is no way Biden will be able to beat Trump... so despite the rhetoric being perpetuated by the media, and most specifically MSNBC, Sanders is really the only person who has a shot at beating Trump. It's much easier for Sanders to take his 35% base and add 15% other voters to win, than to see Biden try to get enough of Sanders' 35% base to devote their votes to him.

We know that a person with a 30%-35% base along with enough voters that will vote whomever their party puts in the race, can win... it is how Trump was elected.

Ummmmm.....the DNC / Democrats 'ganged up' on Bernie in 2016 & screwed him out of a nomination...

What makes you think they aren't going to again in 2020?


.....and did you seriously attempt to compare anyone left in the Democratic Party race to Trump?

The Democrats have no one who can beat Trump.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Everyone else that has responded to this thread understands my post except you.

...and yes I can compare Bernie's situation to Trumps pretty easily, because it's true. To win tight elections you have to focus on the margins. It was a tactic that was used a long time ago by the Prohibitionists' movement and later in the Southern strategy by the Nixon campaign. When you have a very dedicated base that will support you no matter what, you don't spend time and money campaigning to them, you go after the small undecided or fringe voters of the opponent and try to woo them to your side.

A Trump vs Sanders election will not be close...which is why the Democrat Establishment is desperate to screw Bernie again

 

[Lewdog]

It appears that the moderates are dropping out trying to consolidate votes under Biden to combine their power to stop Sanders. Let's be very honest here, this might mean Biden is able to win a contested convention, but Sanders' supporters who see the Democratic establishment cares more about what politicians want than the people do, will never support or vote for Biden against Trump. When you have such a large percentage of voters who support Sanders sees that the Democratic party will do whatever it takes to keep him from winning, there is no way Biden will be able to beat Trump... so despite the rhetoric being perpetuated by the media, and most specifically MSNBC, Sanders is really the only person who has a shot at beating Trump. It's much easier for Sanders to take his 35% base and add 15% other voters to win, than to see Biden try to get enough of Sanders' 35% base to devote their votes to him.

We know that a person with a 30%-35% base along with enough voters that will vote whomever their party puts in the race, can win... it is how Trump was elected.

Ummmmm.....the DNC / Democrats 'ganged up' on Bernie in 2016 & screwed him out of a nomination...

What makes you think they aren't going to again in 2020?


.....and did you seriously attempt to compare anyone left in the Democratic Party race to Trump?

The Democrats have no one who can beat Trump.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. Everyone else that has responded to this thread understands my post except you.

...and yes I can compare Bernie's situation to Trumps pretty easily, because it's true. To win tight elections you have to focus on the margins. It was a tactic that was used a long time ago by the Prohibitionists' movement and later in the Southern strategy by the Nixon campaign. When you have a very dedicated base that will support you no matter what, you don't spend time and money campaigning to them, you go after the small undecided or fringe voters of the opponent and try to woo them to your side.

A Trump vs Sanders election will not be close...which is why the Democrat Establishment is desperate to screw Bernie again

Part of why Trump won is because of the Sanders' supporters who voted for Trump to stick it to Hillary and the Democratic establishment.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Bloomberg will pick Mayor Pete as his VP but Pete is not allowed to say "I'm 100% behind Mike"

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Garth Brooks sends out a subliminal message.

Yes, his message is that Barry Sanders was a hell of a football player.

 

[theHawk]

Neither the DNC establishment, nor Bernie Sanders cares about who gets the most popular votes. All any of them care about is power and they will do anything to get it.

 

[easyt65]

Part of why Trump won is because of the Sanders' supporters who voted for Trump to stick it to Hillary and the Democratic establishment.

So you are saying that is why Trump is going to win again...after the DNC screws Bernie again.....?!

 

[konradv]

Garth Brooks sends out a subliminal message.

Yes, his message is that Barry Sanders was a hell of a football player.

I guess you don't understand the word 'subliminal':
existing or operating below the threshold of consciousness; being or employing stimuli insufficiently intense to produce a discrete sensation but often being or designed to be intense enough to influence the mental processes or the behavior of the individual

Definition of subliminal | Dictionary.com