Liberal Democrats Want ICE to Waste Time Getting Warrants

[postman]

I have linked at least 3 articles for you that outline the numerous resolutions and such passed

You unwilling to learn is not my fault

But you haven't shown Iraq was in violation of any of those resolutions.

They had no undeclared WMD's. They had no nuclear programs. They had no biological weapons programs.

As Hans Blix said, he could not declare Iraq in violation of any of the UNSC resolutions.

 

[struth]

The resolution was to enforce UN security counsel resolutions.

News Flash! There were no violations of UN security counsel resolutions.

Of course there was. Saddam had violated at least 17 resolutions

Why the War Wasn't Illegal

Opinion by Michael E. O'Hanlon, Washington Times (9/26/04)

www.brookings.edu

 

[Dekster]

I accept your concession of the point.

LOL claim whatever victory you want in your mind. In the meantime, if ICE shows up at your house with an Administrative warrant, you can tell them to pound sand until they get one issued by an actual judge. Only then are you obligated to do anything.

 

[struth]

But you haven't shown Iraq was in violation of any of those resolutions.

They had no undeclared WMD's. They had no nuclear programs. They had no biological weapons programs.

As Hans Blix said, he could not declare Iraq in violation of any of the resolutions.

Of course they were the UN said they were by unanimous vote

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[M14 Shooter]

LOL claim whatever victory you want in your mind.

The victory is clear -- you avoided the point made because you know you cannot address it.
The judge committed felony obstruction, and you don't care.

 

[pknopp]

The victory is clear -- you avoided the point made because you know you cannot address it.
The judge committed felony obstruction, and you don't care.

Here is what is going to happen. The judge is going to argue she rules her court (and she does). That she didn't want to turn her court into a spectacle (which it would have).

Now the Federal government could have argued she could have done that without releasing the individual and perhaps she could have.

Being this would be a long drawn out affair, the charges get dropped.

What she should have done was instructed her court officials to arrest anyone who caused a scene in her courtroom.

 

[postman]

Not at all, she was helping enslaved people escape the dems

No, she was helping fugitives from justice.
It's in the constitution.
Article 9

 

[postman]

Of course there was. Saddam had violated at least 17 resolutions

Why the War Wasn't Illegal

Opinion by Michael E. O'Hanlon, Washington Times (9/26/04)

www.brookings.edu

That's an opinion piece.

And everybody has an opinion.

Hans Blix said he couldn't declare Iraq in violation of a single UN SC resolution.

You know who Hans Blix was?

 

[struth]

No, she was helping fugitives from justice.
It's in the constitution.
Article 9

Again are you comparing slavery to illegal aliens being deported home?

 

[postman]

Of course they were the UN said they were by unanimous vote

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

From your citation:

After the invasion, the Bush administration commissioned the Iraq Survey Group to determine whether in fact any WMD existed in Iraq. After a year and half of meticulously searching the country, the inspectors reported:[18]

While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter, a policy ISG attributes to Baghdad's desire to see sanctions lifted, or rendered ineffectual, or its fear of force against it should WMD be discovered.

The review was conducted by Charles A. Duelfer and the Iraq Survey Group. In October 2004, Bush said of Duelfer's analysis: "The chief weapons inspector, Charles Duelfer, has now issued a comprehensive report that confirms the earlier conclusion of David Kay that Iraq did not have the weapons that our intelligence believed were there.


Bottom line: NO WMD'S, so Iraq was no in violation.

 

[struth]

That's an opinion piece.

And everybody has an opinion.

Hans Blix said he couldn't declare Iraq in violation of a single UN SC resolution.

You know who Hans Blix was?

Well the entire UN found Iraq in violation.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

blix opinion isn’t relevant, because the UN voted and said Iraq was in violation.

 

[postman]

Again are you comparing slavery to illegal aliens being deported home?

Slavery was in the US Constitution
Illegal Aliens are not.

The constitution (article 9) specifically made escaped slaves fugitives from justice.

 

[postman]

Well the entire UN found Iraq in violation.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

blix opinion isn’t relevant, because the UN voted and said Iraq was in violation.

And the CIA found they were WRONG.

 

[postman]

Well the entire UN found Iraq in violation.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

blix opinion isn’t relevant, because the UN voted and said Iraq was in violation.

Actually they voted on 1441, they didn't vote on a resolution to use "force" to enforce 1441.

 

[struth]

Slavery was in the US Constitution
Illegal Aliens are not.

The constitution (article 9) specifically made escaped slaves fugitives from justice.

yes slavery was made illegal in the constitution

And yes Art 1 gives Congress the authority to regulate the naturalization process…ie making what is legal for illegal

 

[struth]

And the CIA found they were WRONG.

You lie the CIA never said Saddam wasn’t in violation of UN resolutions

 

[struth]

Actually they voted on 1441, they didn't vote on a resolution to use "force" to enforce 1441.

No the United States did

Not sure your point

 

[postman]

yes slavery was made illegal in the constitution

And yes Art 1 gives Congress the authority to regulate the naturalization process…ie making what is legal for illegal

Slavery was never illegal in the constitution. (pre 14th)
In fact the constitution supported and protected slavery (article 9), and made escaped slaves fugitives from justice.(Article IV, Section 2, Clause 3)

And any act or law inhibiting it, would be unconstitutional.

Let that sink in.

 

[postman]

No the United States did

Not sure your point

The US did so, without a UNSC mandate, and based on false information they presented to the UN and, later definitively disproved by the CIA

 

[struth]

The US did so, without a UNSC mandate, and based on false information they presented to the UN and, later definitively disproved by the CIA

We don't need a UNSC mandate to go to war. The UN voted unamiously that Saddam was in REPEAT violation of their resolutions and had been for years