List the good thing about Obama care...

What is the impact on senior citizens?

What is the impact on those thrown off of their group coverage and put on Obamacare exchanges? In other words it is much more expensive to buy insurance as a private person then in a group. That is the reason for Medicare.

How much of a profit surge for groups that supported Obamacare will their be? Such as the AARP which I quit over this issue.
 
WELL taken from Obama and the other totally ignorant supporters perspective....

He wants 1,300 insurance companies out of business.
He wants 400,000 more people unemployed their payroll taxes eliminated and $12 billion more in unemployment checks PAID by fewer existing businesses..courtesy of Obama!
He wants the FEDERAL/STATE/LOCAL to lose $100 billion a year in taxes... (By the way property taxes these companies pay will be missed!)

He wants that because when Obama said:"I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program"
Barack Obama on single payer in 2003 | Physicians for a National Health Program

If he wants a single payer then what will happen to the 1,300 other payers???
 
As a healthcare worker of 30 years, the ONLY thing I can think of that is good about obamacare is that when it achieves it's ultimate goal of single-payer socialist healthcare it will be good for the healthcare owrker. Government employee with government benefits and government pay. Less work for more money and no worries about inspections or having to concern myself with bedside manner.

Obamacare: the efficiency of the post office with the compassion of the IRS.
 
there isn't any to list...but the youngsters who voted for Obama are going to get the shock of their lives soon...I could say they deserved it, but it is going to hit my childrens lives too
 
As a healthcare worker of 30 years, the ONLY thing I can think of that is good about obamacare is that when it achieves it's ultimate goal of single-payer socialist healthcare it will be good for the healthcare owrker. Government employee with government benefits and government pay. Less work for more money and no worries about inspections or having to concern myself with bedside manner.

Obamacare: the efficiency of the post office with the compassion of the IRS.

Couldn't agree with you more!

The major question your comment brings up to me frequently is this..
"If we become a nation of government employees who pays the taxes?

I mean governments state,etc. are all non-profit.

We can raise the 1% taxes to 100% as Obama's dad was in favor, but that will take in just enough to cover current expenses?
How will 131 million government employees be paid? In fact wouldn't states be complaining a little with 100% federal tax leaving Zero for them?

See I know that most supporter of 100% tax on the wealthy haven't really thought this through!
 
The best thing about Obamacare that I have seen is that it drives you right wing whack jobs bat shit crazy.

Maybe those crazy rethugs in the House can vote it down........again.
 
The best thing about Obamacare that I have seen is that it drives you right wing whack jobs bat shit crazy.

Maybe those crazy rethugs in the House can vote it down........again.

well how touching and petty
 
The best thing about Obamacare that I have seen is that it drives you right wing whack jobs bat shit crazy.

Maybe those crazy rethugs in the House can vote it down........again.

That's it right there.
The only good thing about Obamacare is it allows Democrats to demonstrate they "care" about the poor and middle class. Never mind this is a disaster for both groups.
 
You can see what's good about it just by looking at things that are already happening.

Quality is on the rise:

Obamacare Shows Hospital Savings as Patients Make Gains
Less than five months before the Affordable Care Act fully kicks in, hospitals are improving care and saving millions of dollars with one of the least touted but potentially most effective provisions of the law.

While much of the focus on Obamacare has been on the government rush to open insurance exchanges by Oct. 1, 252 hospitals and physician groups across the U.S. have signed up to join the administration’s accountable care program, in which they share the financial risk of keeping patients healthy.

Under the program, hospitals and physician practices take responsibility for tracking and maintaining the health of elderly and disabled patients. If costs rise beyond an agreed upon level, hospitals may become responsible for reimbursing the government. If they cut the cost of care while maintaining quality, hospitals share in the savings. The government expects the savings may be as much as $1.9 billion from 2012 to 2015. Early indications suggest they are starting to add up.

In other areas where the ACA's quality improvement provisions have launched, they're starting to show some results. For instance, unnecessary hospital readmissions are dropping and the Medicare Advantage quality bonus program is working (incidentally, contrary to speculation a few years ago that Obamacare would destroy Medicare Advantage, enrollment in that privatized bit of Medicare this year is at an all time high):
This year [2012] we saw significant improvement in measures included in the Medicare Star rating pay-for-performance program for health plans that participate in Medicare Advantage. Although Medicare Advantage plans have reported on quality and results have been reported to consumers for many years, the Affordable Care Act required the Medicare program to make higher payments to health plans with better quality performance, starting in 2012. In addition to this new program, the Department of Health and Human Services established a demonstration program to complement it, making even higher payments to plans with better performance.

Competition is growing:

Health Law Is Fostering Competition, U.S. Says
WASHINGTON — The new health care law is injecting more competition into health insurance markets nationwide, drawing additional insurance companies into states long dominated by a few carriers, Obama administration officials said Thursday.

Such competition offers the prospect of more choices for millions of consumers who will be shopping for insurance this fall. Companies entering the market could also put downward pressure on prices, partly offsetting factors that tend to increase premiums. The competition could pose new challenges to Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans, which dominate the individual insurance markets in many states.
More than 120 insurance companies have filed applications with the federal government, and it appears that most consumers will be able to choose from health plans offered by five or more insurers, the administration said.

One-fourth of insurance companies proposing to offer coverage in these federal exchanges have recently entered the individual market, the administration said.

This, of course, isn't just true of the marketplaces being run by the federal government, but of those being run by states, as well.

Two Oregon insurers rethink 2014 premiums as state posts first-ever rate comparison
This is what competition looks like: One health insurer wants to charge $169 a month next year to cover a 40-year-old Portland-area non-smoker. Another wants $422 a month for the same standard plan.

The new health insurance marketplace envisioned by federal health reforms doesn't formally kick in until fall. But it already is taking shape – and consumers for the first time can compare, premium by premium, identical plans by different insurers.

Soon they'll be able to compare benefit-by-benefit as well.

On Thursday, a comparison of proposed 2014 health premiums became public online, causing two insurers to request do-overs to lower their rates even before the state determines whether they're justified.

The unusual development was sparked by a comparison that used to be impossible because plan benefits varied so widely. But under the federal reforms that take effect Jan. 1, health insurance is mandated and every insurer must offer certain standard plans.

Costs are currently in check--and there are some glimmers of hope that this can persist:

To go with the news that we're enjoying the slowest health care price inflation and the lowest group health insurance premium increases since the late '90s, as well as the slowest health spending growth and the slowest per beneficiary Medicare cost growth ever recorded, next year's exchange premium numbers have been trickling out for the past month or so and the news is generally good.

In some states, costs for a standardized set of benefits is actually going to be lower next year than they cost this year (in comparison to the small group market, where comparable protections and benefits exist today), suggesting that competitive insurance markets can actually work.

States like Washington: Premiums drop, coverage expands in Washington's exchange.
Despite predictions of rate shocks, most consumers in Washington state will actually see lower premiums and enhanced coverage when they buy insurance through the state's health insurance exchange.

Washington Insurance Commissioner Mike Kreidler on Tuesday released rates proposed by insurers, including Premera Blue Cross, Lifewise, Group Health Cooperative, BridgeSpan and Molina Health Care of Washington, for health plans they will sell on the state-run online marketplace, called the Washington Health Plan Finder, reported the Spokesman-Review.

And those prices don't include federal subsidies available to consumers, so the premiums that consumers will pay actually will be less than the rates proposed.

"We're pleasantly surprised with the individual rates we've seen so far," Kreidler said. "In many cases, people will get better benefits and pay less--especially if they qualify for subsidies."

And Montana. Insurance commissioner: Price of policies offered on `Obamacare’ exchange in Montana relatively less expensive
HELENA — The average price of health insurance policies offered on Montana’s new insurance “marketplace’ this fall — a key aspect of the federal health reform law — won’t be a sticker shock for consumers, Montana’s insurance commissioner says.

In fact, state Auditor Monica Lindeen said late Monday that an analysis by her office shows that policies for individuals and businesses will be less expensive than projected rates without the law, often known as “Obamacare.”

“A lot of Montanans have been worried about how Obamacare would affect the cost of health insurance,” Lindeen said in a prepared statement. “These preliminary figures show that rates haven’t skyrocketed.

“Rates are actually lower than projections, which is a relief to a lot of Montanans, including me.”
Lindeen’s office said for an individual buying a policy on Montana’s marketplace, the average monthly cost of the submitted policies is $273 a month.

Without the Affordable Care Act, the same policies would have cost about $290 a month, the actuary estimated.

The “average” individual is a 40-year-old consumer. Policies for younger consumers would be less expensive and those for older consumers more expensive.
Policies purchased by small businesses on the marketplace, to cover their employees, will see an even better relative savings, compared with the market without the Affordable Care Act, the actuarial analysis said.

The average monthly cost for a small-business policy bought on the marketplace will be about $375 per employee per month, the analysis said. The price is higher than the individual policy because business policies tend to cover more costs, Lindeen’s office said.

Without the Affordable Care Act, those policies would have averaged $450 per employee per month, the analysis said.

In fact, premiums for next year have been coming in lower than expected in states across the country. In Oregon. And California. And D.C. And Colorado. And Vermont. Competitive marketplaces are good.


Capacity to meet folks' needs is growing:

We're seeing big investments in construction and renovation of community health centers in underserved areas (even anti-ACA GOP Congressfolks have caught heat recently for taking advantage--rightly, I think!--of Obamacare's investment in new health centers) and indications that retail medical clinic capacity is going to double over the next three years.

Last fall saw more medical school applicants than ever:
A record number of students applied to medical school in 2012 according to new data from the Association of American Medical Colleges. Applications have risen over the past decade, growing more quickly over the past few years than they did in the mid-2000s.

This year will see more folks being trained to become doctors than ever before: the residency match that just took place a few weeks ago saw more matches and a record-high match rate:
The 2013 residency program match hit an all-time high of more than 29,000 positions due to a new "all-in" policy that requires programs to register all their available slots, according to final data from the National Resident Matching Program (NRMP).

The 29,171 positions offered in 2013 marked a 9% increase from the 26,772 offered the year before, and 96.4% were filled -- resulting in the "highest fill rate in NRMP history," with match rates rising for "nearly every applicant group," Mona Signer, executive director of NRMP, said in a statement.

If you want to know what's good about the ACA, recall what's been bad about our system for a long time. Insurance markets have been broken and anticompetitive all around the country. Our public health infrastructure and our workforce have been struggling to keep pace with the demands of the 21st century all around the country. Our health care delivery systems have been underperforming on efficiency, quality, safety, you name it all around the country. People are strapped by medical bills and rising insurance costs all around the country.

These things are finally getting the attention they deserve and the reforms and investments they need to change and thrive. The good stuff above is just the beginning. There's still a very long way to go but for the first time, perhaps ever, this country is putting a foundation in place on which to build a health system that works better, serves all, and does it without unsustainable spending growth. That's very good and if we commit to success it's only going to get better.
 
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You can no longer lose your job and not get medical insurance after you find employment because of an illness that occurred under your previous medical coverage.

You can no longer be denied medical insurance for a childhood illness such as cancer.

See, I would bet you can find something! Does that counter balance the insane breach of freedom, no BUT that does not mean there is not a single good thing thought the entire 2500 pages. The exchanges also are a pretty good idea. Would be nice if they just set up a lot of this as voluntary but alas, that would not convey control.
 
So says the local Obamacare flack.

The truth is that it will destroy health care in this country. No system was ever made better by gov't intrusion in the free market.
 
The best thing about Obamacare that I have seen is that it drives you right wing whack jobs bat shit crazy.

Maybe those crazy rethugs in the House can vote it down........again.

intelligent reply as always Zeke.....now why dont you tell me why so many Democrats have their doubts about this thing working too?.....yea i know its tough to have to actually answer a fucking question...
 
Well, just talking off the top of my head I can list a few good things.

You will not be denied for a pre-existing condition if you get sick and you won't be kicked off your insurance if you become sick no matter what the condition.

You can stay on your parents plan until you are 26.

You can keep the insurance you have or you can pick one of the exchanges and more info. is coming out about them in October.

If you have Medicare the doughnut hole will slowly start closing and eventually be gone.

More preventative services will be covered under Medicare that were not before.

Medicaid coverage will expand for folks that need it.

I'm sure there's more if I went and looked but this is just a few basic points.
 
The best thing about Obamacare that I have seen is that it drives you right wing whack jobs bat shit crazy.

Maybe those crazy rethugs in the House can vote it down........again.

I really don't see how this is a good thing. Trying to repeal it 37 times and wasting 55 million dollars doing so is not a good thing.
 
Well, just talking off the top of my head I can list a few good things.

You will not be denied for a pre-existing condition if you get sick and you won't be kicked off your insurance if you become sick no matter what the condition.

You can stay on your parents plan until you are 26.

You can keep the insurance you have or you can pick one of the exchanges and more info. is coming out about them in October.

If you have Medicare the doughnut hole will slowly start closing and eventually be gone.

More preventative services will be covered under Medicare that were not before.

Medicaid coverage will expand for folks that need it.

I'm sure there's more if I went and looked but this is just a few basic points.

And all of that is free, Free, FREE! Right?
 
ah yes, the paid ObamaCare pusher greenbeard shows up, how funny is that?
 
Well, just talking off the top of my head I can list a few good things.

You will not be denied for a pre-existing condition if you get sick and you won't be kicked off your insurance if you become sick no matter what the condition.

You can stay on your parents plan until you are 26.

You can keep the insurance you have or you can pick one of the exchanges and more info. is coming out about them in October.

If you have Medicare the doughnut hole will slowly start closing and eventually be gone.

More preventative services will be covered under Medicare that were not before.

Medicaid coverage will expand for folks that need it.

I'm sure there's more if I went and looked but this is just a few basic points.

And all of that is free, Free, FREE! Right?

Nope, it isn't free and it isn't perfect. I think it's a good start but more can be done to improve it. I wish they would of included a public option or expanded Medicare availability for everyone to buy into depending on income.

I think that would of helped bring down cost-more options for folks.
 
Well, just talking off the top of my head I can list a few good things.

You will not be denied for a pre-existing condition if you get sick and you won't be kicked off your insurance if you become sick no matter what the condition.

You can stay on your parents plan until you are 26.

You can keep the insurance you have or you can pick one of the exchanges and more info. is coming out about them in October.

If you have Medicare the doughnut hole will slowly start closing and eventually be gone.

More preventative services will be covered under Medicare that were not before.

Medicaid coverage will expand for folks that need it.

I'm sure there's more if I went and looked but this is just a few basic points.

And all of that is free, Free, FREE! Right?

It's mind boggling to watch you idiots absolutely REFUSE to even take one minute to actually learn what the legislation does and does not do.
 

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