Zone1 Luther was the Father of Liberalism

[forkintheroad7]

Luther and Liberalism - James R. Rogers

The roots of Western liberalism both precede, and go far deeper, than Martin Luther and his influence.

lawliberty.org

I have thought this for a long time.. then found this site. The first article is by an author who doesn't agree w/ me (us)

But there are those who do say he is the father of liberalism. I'll investigate those others.

 

[forkintheroad7]

No one wants to respond

LOL

I hewt peopos fewins

Well, it's time to ditch feelings... when they interfere with your spiritual growth or education

 

[forkintheroad7]

It seems obvious to me that Luther was indeed the father of liberalism. He rebelled against Christ's Church.. how liberal can you get?

And then of course people rebelled against Luther.. Zwingli and Calvin and so down through the centuries, Christians have been divided into thousands of sects, all believe different things. And then people decry our lack of unity! ha ha.. it's a totally natural consequence of all this religious division and hatred of the Original Church.. "you reap what you sow"

"By their fruits you will know them"

We've had 500 long years of rotten fruit.. and people keep shaking their heads and wondering why we are not more united.

I don't.. it's obvious to some of us why there is all this division and hatred..

 

[my2¢]

From what little I've read of Pope Leo X, his extravagant spending and need for revenues is what seems rather liberal to me.

 

[ding]

No one wants to respond

Maybe they are tired of the division you create.
Maybe they think it's dumb to argue with an intellectual midget.
Maybe you are boring AF.

Or maybe it's all three.

 

[BreezeWood]

Maybe they are tired of the division you create.
Maybe they think it's dumb to argue with an intellectual midget.
Maybe you are boring AF.

Or maybe it's all three.

certainly more liberal than their idol -

hitler ...

 

[NotfooledbyW]

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Maybe they think it's dumb to argue with an intellectual midget.

iii. Luther was the Father of Liberalism. 240827 {post•7}

NotfooledbyW Aug’24 Vlwtfo: Christians from the beginning were heavily persecuted proselytizing monotheists. They were not annoying because they were monotheist. They were annoying because they were so prone to that goddamned, ambitious and militant proselytizing.

But the proselytizing far outweighed the persecution since we know that within about a little more than three centuries after Jesus of Nazereth walked the Earth. the Emperor Constantine had a vision and decided to fight a crucial battle under the symbol of the cross. Within 100 years of that victory under the cross, Christianity became the dominant and main religion of the world’s largest empire at the time.

Would you agree Saint_Ding that the success of Christianity is largely due to the power of military might which would make Christianity a militant religion?

Since you are so well-known Saint_Ding for prosecuting, a case against what you refer to as “militant atheism“ would it be fair, because of your deep relationship with the God of Abraham, to refer to you as a militant Abrahamist. Or do you have a preferred way we should refer to your religious militancy?

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[forkintheroad7]

Modern history aka liberalism began in the 16th century and things have gotten progressively worse as the centuries rolled on.

That's what one rebel, Luther, can do.. He started the old snowball's descent down the hill and at the bottom of the hill we get a HUGE boulder of snow and rocks and debris, formerly called licentiousness, now called Liberalism.. fags gyrating in front of our innocent children.. human trafficking.. border laws obliterated, at least in the minds of our sick leaders.. the murder of millions (60 million under Roe) of helpless children.. the hatred for God's Truth, elections stolen.. and I could go on and on

 

[BreezeWood]

Modern history aka liberalism began in the 16th century and things have gotten progressively worse as the centuries rolled on.

jesus and their repudiation of judaism was the beginning of modern liberalism -

liberation theology, self determination as taught by jesus and their followers the reemergence of the religion of antiquity as the new hope for humanity -

nothing of resemblance to christianity, the 4th century christian bible that was a step backwards and a rekindling of judaism.

 

[ding]

Militant atheists are like short people... no reason to live.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Militant atheists are like short people... no reason to live.

Can you name any militant atheists who lived during the American Revolution.

Can you name any militant atheists who are alive today and bothering you?

 

[ding]

Can you name any militant atheists who lived during the American Revolution.

Can you name any militant atheists who are alive today and bothering you?

None bother me. There's lot's of other threats to liberty and freedom besides them.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

i. Luther was the Father of Liberalism. 240827 {post•7}. NotfooledbyW Aug’24 saidlwtfo: Can you name any militant atheists who lived during the American Revolution •¥•. Can you name any militant atheists who are alive today and bothering you? nfbw 240827 Vlwtfo00011

ii. Luther was the Father of Liberalism. 240827 {post•12}. ding Aug’24 lwtfo: None bother me. There's lot's of other threats to liberty and freedom besides them. dvng 240827 Slwtfo00012


iii. Luther was the Father of Liberalism. 240828 {post•13}.

NotfooledbyW Aug’24 Vlwtfo: Why are atheists a threat to liberty and freedom while living under a secular constitution with you Saint_Ding?

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[BreezeWood]

None bother me. There's lot's of other threats to liberty and freedom besides them.

not when religious fanatics have their solutions ready and available ...

for immediate retribution ... for those they claim are - seiners.

and in texas every saturday morning, someone - guilty or not just for fun.

 

[initforme]

So is the premise that Lutherans aren't true Christians?

 

[Woodznutz]

Modern history aka liberalism began in the 16th century and things have gotten progressively worse as the centuries rolled on.

That's what one rebel, Luther, can do.. He started the old snowball's descent down the hill and at the bottom of the hill we get a HUGE boulder of snow and rocks and debris, formerly called licentiousness, now called Liberalism.. fags gyrating in front of our innocent children.. human trafficking.. border laws obliterated, at least in the minds of our sick leaders.. the murder of millions (60 million under Roe) of helpless children.. the hatred for God's Truth, elections stolen.. and I could go on and on

I dated a Catholic girl who said "No one sins like a Catholic, because we have this thing called...confession." Growing up it was the Catholic kids that were the troublemakers.

 

[hadit]

It seems obvious to me that Luther was indeed the father of liberalism. He rebelled against Christ's Church.. how liberal can you get?

And then of course people rebelled against Luther.. Zwingli and Calvin and so down through the centuries, Christians have been divided into thousands of sects, all believe different things. And then people decry our lack of unity! ha ha.. it's a totally natural consequence of all this religious division and hatred of the Original Church.. "you reap what you sow"

"By their fruits you will know them"

We've had 500 long years of rotten fruit.. and people keep shaking their heads and wondering why we are not more united.

I don't.. it's obvious to some of us why there is all this division and hatred..

Stop trying to sow discord and division in the body of Christ.

 

[hadit]

It seems obvious to me that Luther was indeed the father of liberalism. He rebelled against Christ's Church.. how liberal can you get?

And then of course people rebelled against Luther.. Zwingli and Calvin and so down through the centuries, Christians have been divided into thousands of sects, all believe different things. And then people decry our lack of unity! ha ha.. it's a totally natural consequence of all this religious division and hatred of the Original Church.. "you reap what you sow"

"By their fruits you will know them"

We've had 500 long years of rotten fruit.. and people keep shaking their heads and wondering why we are not more united.

I don't.. it's obvious to some of us why there is all this division and hatred..

Why are you rebelling against the Orthodox Church? If you insist we have to honor the original, you need to honor and respect them, that have been around since the Apostles evangelized Africa and Asia. Sorry, but Rome didn't get into the act until hundreds of years later.

 

[Woodznutz]

Luther and Liberalism - James R. Rogers

The roots of Western liberalism both precede, and go far deeper, than Martin Luther and his influence.

lawliberty.org

I have thought this for a long time.. then found this site. The first article is by an author who doesn't agree w/ me (us)

But there are those who do say he is the father of liberalism. I'll investigate those others.

Define "liberalism" in regard to the subject.

 

[Woodznutz]

It seems obvious to me that Luther was indeed the father of liberalism. He rebelled against Christ's Church.. how liberal can you get?

And then of course people rebelled against Luther.. Zwingli and Calvin and so down through the centuries, Christians have been divided into thousands of sects, all believe different things. And then people decry our lack of unity! ha ha.. it's a totally natural consequence of all this religious division and hatred of the Original Church.. "you reap what you sow"

"By their fruits you will know them"

We've had 500 long years of rotten fruit.. and people keep shaking their heads and wondering why we are not more united.

I don't.. it's obvious to some of us why there is all this division and hatred..

Most Protestant churches are united in their opinion of the Catholic church, that it is the great false church.

Notable that Latin America is moving away from the Catholic church, perhaps because of its heavy-handed excesses down there?

Many believe that Revelation 12 describes the persecution of the true church by the Holy Roman Empire.