May evil be done that good might come of it?

[Mr. P]

Okay, here is what prompted my question.

The Holy Father clearly emphasizes the evil of intentionally causing death to the donor in disposing of his organs. Therefore, to sacrifice the life of a donor in order to obtain an organ for someone else violates the fifth commandment: "Thou shalt not kill."

On the other hand, do we stop organ transplants?
http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=6335

 

[007]

Except that's not quite right.

"Do not Murder" is more an appropriate translation.

I didn't think "thou shalt not kill" needed a translation. Don't kill means don't kill.

But I do agree there's instances when killing is all but neccessary. i.e., in defense of ones life, or family, or country.

 

[dilloduck]

No. I think you are blurring the lines a bit.

I just think this is the argument that some use to say that both religions are violent. Islam says to murder infidels. Chrsitianity apparently approves of killing as long as it's done in self defense.

 

[dmp]

I didn't think "thou shalt not kill" needed a translation. Don't kill means don't kill.

But I do agree there's instances when killing is all but neccessary. i.e., in defense of ones life, or family, or country.

But "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is NOT what was written by God on those tablets. The Correct, or MORE correct translation was God ordering the Israelis to not murder.

 

[007]

Okay, here is what prompted my question.


On the other hand, do we stop organ transplants?
http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=6335

I personally wouldn't want another persons organ inside of me.

Whatever happened to that idea that "replacement organs" could grown for you with your own DNA?

 

[007]

But "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is NOT what was written by God on those tablets. The Correct, or MORE correct translation was God ordering the Israelis to not murder.

Oh... well, all I have to go on is what I've been taught.

 

[dilloduck]

Okay, here is what prompted my question.


On the other hand, do we stop organ transplants?
http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=6335

The pope is apparently against the harvesting of organs from someone who has been declared "brain dead" even if it will save the life of another.

 

[dmp]

I personally wouldn't want another persons organ inside of me.

Damn - you sound like my wife.

:-/

I've been tryin to...uh...nevermind.

 

[Mr. P]

The pope is apparently against the harvesting of organs from someone who has been declared "brain dead" even if it will save the life of another.

After reading the artical I know I'll never donate.

 

[dilloduck]

After reading the artical I know I'll never donate.

Why not ?

 

[007]

Damn - you sound like my wife.

:-/

I've been tryin to...uh...nevermind.

Perhaps I should rephrase that... :duh3:

 

[007]

After reading the artical I know I'll never donate.

I've heard disturbing stories to the same effect. "When the fight for life is dubious, let them die because they're an organ donor".

Not me. Don't want any, don't take any.

 

[5stringJeff]

Okay, here is what prompted my question.


On the other hand, do we stop organ transplants?
http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=6335

I agree with him.

 

[Mr. P]

Why not ?

Did you read it, dillo?

 

[Mr. P]

I agree with him.

So then should we stop transplants?

 

[dilloduck]

Did you read it, dillo?

Yes, I did. Just wanna know why you PERSONALLY are against it. I mean--what was it that convinced you?

 

[Mr. P]

Yes, I did. Just wanna know why you PERSONALLY are against it. I mean--what was it that convinced you?

I wanta leave with what I can with. I feel about the same as pale.

 

[dilloduck]

I wanta leave with what I can with. I feel about the same as pale.

I think that's your right and can legally make it so in your will. Should others be able to donate if they don't feel the way you do?

 

[dmp]

I want my death to mean something. If somebody can use and wants any part of me after I'm gone, they're welcome to it. The older I get the less likely my parts will be any good to anyone, but if I died tomorrow my family knows to offer any part of what's left of my body to whomever needs it.

I'm a giver, I suppose.

 

[Nienna]

Okay, here is what prompted my question.

"The Holy Father clearly emphasizes the evil of intentionally causing death to the donor in disposing of his organs. Therefore, to sacrifice the life of a donor in order to obtain an organ for someone else violates the fifth commandment: "Thou shalt not kill."



On the other hand, do we stop organ transplants?
http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=6335

I thought organ donations were given from people who had ALREADY died?