McDonald's May Drop Health Plan

[saveliberty]

Well that combined with the low payouts ?

Math skills elude you once again. $14 a week for coverage. That means an $11.20 per week pay to hit 80%. So, if administrative costs run $2.85 per week, you can't hit the percentages.

what I said before reduce administrative costs.
And lower payouts reduce administrative costs as well.


How big is this plan? How many participate?

So your advocating overseas job transfers, longer claims settelments and increasing benefit qualification periods?

 

[boedicca]

You are making the mistake of assuming that MANY who work at McDonald's are under 26.

MANY are over 26, and do rely on these mini-med plans.

About half the employees in the fast-food industry are between 16 and 25 years old. The number of jobs in the industry is expected to increase about 17 percent in the next decade, while the number of workers in that key age group is expected to increase 0.3 percent.

http://www.workforce.com/section/00/article/25/01/75.html


Given the dismal state of the economy, more and more adults are competing for these fast food jobs - the elimination of the mini-med plans will harm them quite a bit.

 

[uscitizen]

Math skills elude you once again. $14 a week for coverage. That means an $11.20 per week pay to hit 80%. So, if administrative costs run $2.85 per week, you can't hit the percentages.

what I said before reduce administrative costs.
And lower payouts reduce administrative costs as well.


How big is this plan? How many participate?

So your advocating overseas job transfers, longer claims settelments and increasing benefit qualification periods?

It appears this is mostly a non issue since kids will be covered up to 26 by parents under the healthcare reform. What is the average age of McDonalds workers? Outside of headquarters that is which I figure is an entirely different set of benefits.

Are we talking coverage here for POS workers or corporate ones?

also does McDonalds contribute to the workers insurance costs? Or is this entirely employee borne premiums?

 

[boedicca]

what I said before reduce administrative costs.
And lower payouts reduce administrative costs as well.


How big is this plan? How many participate?

So your advocating overseas job transfers, longer claims settelments and increasing benefit qualification periods?

It appears this is mostly a non issue since kids will be covered up to 26 by parents under the healthcare reform. What is the average age of McDonalds workers? Outside of headquarters that is which I figure is an entirely different set of benefits.

Are we talking coverage here for POS workers or corporate ones?

I just posted info that in 2007, half of the workers in fast food were 25 or younger - meaning half were 26 or over. Given the deterioration of the economy since then, the ratio has likely skewed more towards older workers.

 

[Meister]

what I said before reduce administrative costs.
And lower payouts reduce administrative costs as well.


How big is this plan? How many participate?

So your advocating overseas job transfers, longer claims settelments and increasing benefit qualification periods?

It appears this is mostly a non issue since kids will be covered up to 26 by parents under the healthcare reform. What is the average age of McDonalds workers? Outside of headquarters that is which I figure is an entirely different set of benefits.

Are we talking coverage here for POS workers or corporate ones?

Have you seen who is working during school hours? It's a bunch of middle aged and gray hairs.

 

[uscitizen]

So your advocating overseas job transfers, longer claims settelments and increasing benefit qualification periods?

It appears this is mostly a non issue since kids will be covered up to 26 by parents under the healthcare reform. What is the average age of McDonalds workers? Outside of headquarters that is which I figure is an entirely different set of benefits.

Are we talking coverage here for POS workers or corporate ones?

Have you seen who is working during school hours? It's a bunch of middle aged and gray hairs.

Yes that is true now except in college areas.
This trend had started long before the recession hit. No doubt a sign of a strong economy.

 

[saveliberty]

what I said before reduce administrative costs.
And lower payouts reduce administrative costs as well.


How big is this plan? How many participate?

So your advocating overseas job transfers, longer claims settelments and increasing benefit qualification periods?

It appears this is mostly a non issue since kids will be covered up to 26 by parents under the healthcare reform. What is the average age of McDonalds workers? Outside of headquarters that is which I figure is an entirely different set of benefits.

Are we talking coverage here for POS workers or corporate ones?

also does McDonalds contribute to the workers insurance costs? Or is this entirely employee borne premiums?

Educate yourself before making blanket statements please. We are discussing hourly workers with limited medical benefits who often don't stay long. Hence, part of the payout problem. My comments were addressing your adminstrative costs reduction comment. I listed three ways you can do that. You didn't respond to any of them, but deflected.

 

[uscitizen]

So your advocating overseas job transfers, longer claims settelments and increasing benefit qualification periods?

It appears this is mostly a non issue since kids will be covered up to 26 by parents under the healthcare reform. What is the average age of McDonalds workers? Outside of headquarters that is which I figure is an entirely different set of benefits.

Are we talking coverage here for POS workers or corporate ones?

also does McDonalds contribute to the workers insurance costs? Or is this entirely employee borne premiums?

Educate yourself before making blanket statements please. We are discussing hourly workers with limited medical benefits who often don't stay long. Hence, part of the payout problem. My comments were addressing your adminstrative costs reduction comment. I listed three ways you can do that. You didn't respond to any of them, but deflected.

I posted earlier about making the administrative portion more efficient so it draws less of a percentage.

You deflected as well from my line of thought to fearisms like outsourcing, inconvenience, etc without knowing how the admin system is structured or top heavy, etc.

 

[AllieBaba]

This is exactly what we said would happen. Obamacare is herding the masses into state managed, CRAPPY health insurance, and eliminating the quality private health insurance. It's bullshit and it will be repealed, hopefully.

Mini-med plans are your definition of "the quality private health insurance"?

McDonald’s doesn’t plan to drop health-care coverage for employees, said Danya Proud, a spokeswoman for the Oak Brook, Illinois-based company, in an interview yesterday. She declined to provide a memo sent to U.S. Health and Human Services in which McDonald’s requested the waiver, saying the correspondence is proprietary

McDonald's Seeks Waiver Over New Health-Care Law, Official Says - Bloomberg

People seem to be missing this point.

They're infinitely superior to what the state dishes out. I work with people who have government health care EVERY DAY. People who can't get their teeth fixed, who wait weeks to be seen, who are treated like crap by their providers, who fight continually with the pharmacies.

I know what government health insurance is like, and what private health insurance is like. It's criminal that we are being forced out of private health insurance into mismanaged, BAD state run insurance.

Meanwhile, while you're sitting on your private insurance and preaching about how much better all the poor people will be now, government coverage is also being reduced by huge chops and sweeps. Flu shots aren't covered. Physicals for school aren't covered. Dentures aren't covered. Eyeglasses aren't covered. And while I can now enroll my grown children on my medical and dental, guess what? My dental only pays for cleanings now, and my co-pays have increased. That's GREAT!

Way to go Obama! You're fixing everyone right up, you loser.

 

[saveliberty]

It appears this is mostly a non issue since kids will be covered up to 26 by parents under the healthcare reform. What is the average age of McDonalds workers? Outside of headquarters that is which I figure is an entirely different set of benefits.

Are we talking coverage here for POS workers or corporate ones?

also does McDonalds contribute to the workers insurance costs? Or is this entirely employee borne premiums?

Educate yourself before making blanket statements please. We are discussing hourly workers with limited medical benefits who often don't stay long. Hence, part of the payout problem. My comments were addressing your adminstrative costs reduction comment. I listed three ways you can do that. You didn't respond to any of them, but deflected.

I posted earlier about making the administrative portion more efficient so it draws less of a percentage.

You deflected as well from my line of thought to fearisms like outsourcing, inconvenience, etc without knowing how the admin system is structured or top heavy, etc.

Oh, more things you can't answer. What methods are you suggesting will reduce adminstrative costs, since mine apparently are not legitimate according to you.

 

[Meister]

It appears this is mostly a non issue since kids will be covered up to 26 by parents under the healthcare reform. What is the average age of McDonalds workers? Outside of headquarters that is which I figure is an entirely different set of benefits.

Are we talking coverage here for POS workers or corporate ones?

Have you seen who is working during school hours? It's a bunch of middle aged and gray hairs.

Yes that is true now except in college areas.
This trend had started long before the recession hit. No doubt a sign of a strong economy.

Right....a strong economy.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Ok that settles it. Pale Rider has spoken and told us what is correct based upon his obvious wealth of knowledge and experience. We can all move on now. Nothing left to see here.

sucks when he is right though doesn't it?

Sucks for who? Certainly not for me. I'm not the one who thinks Obama hates America. I think it sucks for him and you if you believe that nonsense. Must be crappy to walk around all day in a country run by someone who hates you.

Yeah it does suck, but then we knew it when we heard his first lie, remember? Quote "I am not going to run for President in 2008"? Ever since then it has been one big lie after another!!!!

 

[AmericanFirst]

no, the cost of administering the program is higher than normal due to employee turnover, and most employees don't make that many claims against it. this health care law is about the most poorly crafted piece of legislation in the nation's history. a bunch of grandstanding asshats pushed it through, and they had, and have, no idea what they were doing.

I'm not so sure on that Del, isn't this what Obama's end game wasuppose to produce? Pushing out the private sector where employees will end up on the government's list? This is just the tip of the iceberg....give it another 15 years and we are going to see something very differnt from today.

We can only hope!

Yep, socialists do hope for something different than capitalism. If you do not like what this country was founded on move, please. Just leave and live in a socialist country like the ones in europe obama and his fellow socialists love so much and see how much you like it. But stop trying to change my country.

 

[RDD_1210]

sucks when he is right though doesn't it?

Sucks for who? Certainly not for me. I'm not the one who thinks Obama hates America. I think it sucks for him and you if you believe that nonsense. Must be crappy to walk around all day in a country run by someone who hates you.

Yeah it does suck, but then we knew it when we heard his first lie, remember? Quote "I am not going to run for President in 2008"? Ever since then it has been one big lie after another!!!!

I know! That combined with him lying about where was born and being a communist, socialist, marxist, muslim. All the man does is lie!!!

 

[007]

Ok that settles it. Pale Rider has spoken and told us what is correct based upon his obvious wealth of knowledge and experience. We can all move on now. Nothing left to see here.

sucks when he is right though doesn't it?

Sucks for who? Certainly not for me. I'm not the one who thinks Obama hates America. I think it sucks for him and you if you believe that nonsense. Must be crappy to walk around all day in a country run by someone who hates you.

Yeah, I do think obama hates this country. I think he hates what this country is, how it operates, it's history, it's traditions, and on and on. That's why the little shyster radical stood up there and declared he was going to "fundamentally transform America." Problem is the vast majority, and even many of those who the lying little prick duped, don't want what he wants to turn America into. Nope, we don't want a third world, shit hole, socialist, commie, big government, tyrannical state that pisses on the constitution, and in November, the shitty little moron libs and the mutton heads that still worship the fraud in chief are going to get their asses handed to them. Maybe then you'll understand just how small of a minority you stupid liberals are, and you can kiss this train wreck of a government health care debacle good bye. It's going to be repealed, and done over, the right way. Get that? The "RIGHT" way, and it will be done out in the open, not behind locked doors, and everyone will get a chance to READ it. The whole process will be a complete opposite of what the lying, filthy, scum sucking democrats did. Fuck them, fuck you, and fuck liberalism.

 

[007]

Sucks for who? Certainly not for me. I'm not the one who thinks Obama hates America. I think it sucks for him and you if you believe that nonsense. Must be crappy to walk around all day in a country run by someone who hates you.

Yeah it does suck, but then we knew it when we heard his first lie, remember? Quote "I am not going to run for President in 2008"? Ever since then it has been one big lie after another!!!!

I know! That combined with him lying about where was born and being a communist, socialist, marxist, muslim. All the man does is lie!!!

I guess there's a part of you that can be truthful after all...

 

[RDD_1210]

Yeah it does suck, but then we knew it when we heard his first lie, remember? Quote "I am not going to run for President in 2008"? Ever since then it has been one big lie after another!!!!

I know! That combined with him lying about where was born and being a communist, socialist, marxist, muslim. All the man does is lie!!!

I guess there's a part of you that can be truthful after all...

Damn, I forgot Nazi. Forgive my obvious oversight.

 

[Charles_Main]

Sucks for who? Certainly not for me. I'm not the one who thinks Obama hates America. I think it sucks for him and you if you believe that nonsense. Must be crappy to walk around all day in a country run by someone who hates you.

Yeah it does suck, but then we knew it when we heard his first lie, remember? Quote "I am not going to run for President in 2008"? Ever since then it has been one big lie after another!!!!

I know! That combined with him lying about where was born and being a communist, socialist, marxist, muslim. All the man does is lie!!!

Nah just little things like. Health care will reduce costs, Health care wont add to the deficit, My administration will be the most transparent ever, Ill wont talk to lobbyists.

You do a good job of attempting to deflect with your talking points, but the American people see right through it.

 

[007]

I know! That combined with him lying about where was born and being a communist, socialist, marxist, muslim. All the man does is lie!!!

I guess there's a part of you that can be truthful after all...

Damn, I forgot Nazi. Forgive my obvious oversight.

No, he's not a Nazi. You had it right the first time. But you did leave out racist.

 

[RDD_1210]

Yeah it does suck, but then we knew it when we heard his first lie, remember? Quote "I am not going to run for President in 2008"? Ever since then it has been one big lie after another!!!!

I know! That combined with him lying about where was born and being a communist, socialist, marxist, muslim. All the man does is lie!!!

Nah just little things like. Health care will reduce costs, Health care wont add to the deficit, My administration will be the most transparent ever, Ill wont talk to lobbyists.

You do a good job of attempting to deflect with your talking points, but the American people see right through it.

He's a politician, not God, of course everything he says isn't going to be true. That doesn't mean though just because he is shown to be dishonest about some things, that makes everything he says a lie.