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Going and voting, while carrying a weapon, and leaving, shouldn’t be an issue. Assuming the person isn’t standing around, verbally engaging people, etc.Michigan has a rino legislature but is ruled by an unholy trinity of Democrat women working to steal the election for the far left.
Michigan has never had a problem with voter intimidation, particularly with guns.
But out of the blue, recently, again without the legislature, the SOS issued an UNCONSTITUTIONAL EDICT that no one may open carry within 100 feet of a polling place.
She did this without consulting anyone, including law enforcement.
Now why do you suppose a Democrat, who has been slapped down so many times before, would put out another unconstitutional decree? The answer should be obvious
Hint: she is daring "gun nuts" to defy her order
Michigan police chiefs' leader: Open carry ban at polling places not based in law
The director of the Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police says order by Secretary of State is unenforceablewww.google.com
Given THIS, breaking into the Michigan statehouse....
and the fact that people would even think of bringing guns to the polls in these heated times...she is 100% right.
Guns don't belong at polls. If you consider THIS to be "voter intimidation"
then what do you think armed 2nd Amenders are?
Standing around the polls with a weapon, talking shit to people, is outrageous. Whether it’s done by the guy with an American flag T-shirt or the shit bird black panthers shown above.
Again, I believe it’s the actions that are at issue, not the weapon you carry.
Now don’t misunderstand my position.
I don’t believe someone should open carry to the polls. It can be visibly intimidating to people. Yes, I do think that is their personal problem, and I think shitting ones pants at the sight of a person armed is a sign of either poor psychological development or some kind of lost traumatic stress problem (the person was raped, assaulted, robbed, etc). But while I believe I do have the right to carry a weapon, I don’t visibly do so because I don’t want to cause people distress. I think it’s part of ones personal responsibility when they choose to exercise their constitutional rights, to do so responsibly and with consideration.
In this instance, Stretchin Gretchen is exceeding her authority to “order” people not to carry weapons at the polls. If she was a thoughtful, respectful leader, she should have politely asked people not to OPENLY carry weapons at the poll for the sakes of those who could be scared/frightened/intimidated etc, despite their right to do so.
So to sum it up...
I believe people have the right to carry weapons, whether concealed or openly, as spelled out clearly in our founding documents and elaborated on one the federalist papers. I also believe that being a citizen who is respectful of ones fellow citizens is important, and I personally would not OPENLY carry one of my weapons at a poll out of consideration for my fellow citizens who may be scared by this (even if I think their fear is misplaced).
Does that sound reasonable enough? I believe it’s a rather well thought out and reasoned position.
It does. And it's brilliant - thank you for posting that. Wish more people held that view.
My personal feeling - just mine, is that there are a few places guns don't belong - polls, where even political messaging on shirts is a no-no, places like state houses etc - but that is my opinion on what is appropriate.
Another concern is - the times we are in right now. People yelling about upcoming civil war, get your guns, etc etc. Increasingly violent demonstrations, where all sides now appear to be well armed. A lot of roiling emotion, conspiracy theory etc. fueling political anger. Perhaps, this year, polling places are not the place for weapons. They're supposed to be a civil way of settling political disputes. JMO.