Misinformation: Florida public school slavery history issue

[Zincwarrior]

Even when he lies and attacks fellow Black man Allen? Hurd, like Democrats, can’t comprehend a thing they read. They just spew division.

Yes, former CIA officer, fellow at University of Chicago, he has to be a complete idiot.

 

[Arlette]

Wow you are still not able to comprehend that Dr Allen was not praising slavery, he was praising the ingenuity and determination of the Slaves.
The Dem Press and Politicians thrive on hate and ignorance.

I never heard of Dr. Allen. He's on his own. I hope he did it to fuck the Meatball over.

 

[Dadoalex]

First of all I wonder, had anyone here actually seen any of this curriculum? do we know how many chapters? how many paragraphs of text are dedicated to saying that Slaves developed skills?
Right now, I see a lot of people making bold statements with really very little information about what
they are actually teaching In Florida. And as well, a lot of judgement is being made against Desantis based on a few Comments. Some Democrats wanting to go so far as to say , if you say your pro slavery if you
dare mention anything that can be seen as positive during slavery. I totally disagree with that.... and I also wish that slavery never existed in the U.S.. The fact is though, when it comes to history, people need to leave their emotions at the door and be objective.
I saw the same emotions when schools wanted to ban Mark Twain's HuckleBerry Finn... even though he was VERY anti slavery and his book taught the reader quite the opposite. Problem was he used the N word in his story, because he wrote his book true to life... it didnt mean he endorsed calling black people the N word.

How about the positive aspects of the Holocaust?
Free showers
Free rent
Free clothes

Such a deal!

 

[Cougarbear]

How about the positive aspects of the Holocaust?
Free showers
Free rent
Free clothes

Such a deal!

You are a complete idiot. In the Holocaust, Jews found that if they developed certain skills, they would stay alive. I bet you didn't know this because you respond with emotion and not facts or logic.
I bet you didn't now that if there was no slavery, African Americans would still be throwing spears at wild bores for food in Africa. That doesn't mean slavery is a good thing. But, the outcome is if you are Black, you have a computer and phone to respond and give your opinion in this forum. What do you say about this? Oh, I was born Jewish and had family die in the Holocaust and the Ukraine by the hands of Stalin.

 

[Cougarbear]

Yes, former CIA officer, fellow at University of Chicago, he has to be a complete idiot.

Yes he is. Just a divisive person like Democrats do because they only now how to think with emotion and not their brains.

 

[Cougarbear]

Wow you are still not able to comprehend that Dr Allen was not praising slavery, he was praising the ingenuity and determination of the Slaves.
The Dem Press and Politicians thrive on hate and ignorance.

It's truly amazing about Democrats. How do they get out of bed, get dressed and eat breakfast by themselves.

 

[Yarddog]

You don't seem to know anything about this. The Florida Slavery curriculum you are foaming over was spearheaded by two Africa Americans at DeSantis request. There are 191 lessons in this curriculum with 190 of them teaching Middle Schoolers through High Schoolers that slavery was very bad. I bet you did not know this, did you? The 1 and only point about something positive that came out of the slavery time period for Blacks is that they learned skills that made their lives better than say the pickers of cotton. And, that after slavery was over, they had skills that helped them get jobs or start their own businesses. There is no getting around this as a fact. This doesn't encourage slavery or make slavery a good thing. Only a racist would say that and I guess Mr. Jones, you must be one.

I heard a liberal on Fox News, on the Five, try to say that this sort of thing is questionable to discuss at a young age as 6th through 12th. However, she has no problem with CRT being taught to Kindergarteners. Idiots!!! All you are trying to do is cause separation of Americans and start a war. The stupidest Vice President this country has ever had, Camal Breath Harris, was spewing lies like you are about this curriculum, especially the one about Blacks were smart enough to learn skills that helped them in their condition and after slavery. One out of 191 topics in the curriculum. Half of one percent of the entire curriculum that made this point which you should see now is a good one. None of the Democrat talking heads in the media too read the entire 191 topics. They just got their talking points to make this political to attempt to stop DeSantis run for Presidency.

The same liberal idiot on Fox News also tried to equate this to Jews in concentration camps. Fortunately, Guttfeld slammed her again by stating Jews who learned skills also found ways to stay alive as well. Learning skills was a good thing. And, Guttfeld is Jewish.

Thanks! do you have a link to any of that curiculum? This was my exact thought, I was wondering if the mention of "benefits of slavery" was just a gloss over and is being blown out of proportion.

 

[Arlette]

It's truly amazing about Democrats. How do they get out of bed, get dressed and eat breakfast by themselves.

Maybe his intentions were good but it totally misfired. That's a fact and it shows real poor judgement by the Meatball. Shows he's outa touch and a fucking weirdo.

 

[Dadoalex]

You are a complete idiot. In the Holocaust, Jews found that if they developed certain skills, they would stay alive. I bet you didn't know this because you respond with emotion and not facts or logic.
I bet you didn't now that if there was no slavery, African Americans would still be throwing spears at wild bores for food in Africa. That doesn't mean slavery is a good thing. But, the outcome is if you are Black, you have a computer and phone to respond and give your opinion in this forum. What do you say about this? Oh, I was born Jewish and had family die in the Holocaust and the Ukraine by the hands of Stalin.

If there were no slavery they'd be Africans, DUH!
and
If there were no slavery these African Americans would just be Americans.
AND
Here you are praising both the holocaust AND slavery.

 

[Yarddog]

If I teach middle schoolers about Nazism and describe the horrors they inflicted on the world, and in my textbook it mentioned that the NAZIS invented recreational cruise's I would consider that piece of information as highly inappropriate. It might be true (it is), it might be interesting (it is), it also sends the message that some of it was admirable.

An adult who has the interest and maturity to place that program in context might benefit from knowing this. A middle schooler should not be taught that Nazism was anything but abhorrent. Slavery was equally abhorrent, and this fact should not be diminished in any way.

That in my view is why this curriculum, even with the little I know of it is disgraceful.

Well if 99% of what they are learning about slavery is the abhorent part... I would like to see what context that 1 - 3% is exactly before jumping to judgement about it. Simply because I dont trust reactions coming from politicians and news media in this highly politicized world. Everything is talked about to make a point! especially with an election coming up. Does it matter that two Black American scholars helped put this together?

really? middle schoolers cant handle this? yet many progressive Libs think middle schoolers are just fine to hide from their parents the fact that they want to change their gender identity. And where did they get these ideas from? teachers in school, thats where. I think they can handle a little adverse information. When it comes to history anyways... it doesnt need to be editorialized for them. all they really need are the facts, and then if they have open discussion in class about these topics.... how is it that kids are going to walk away feeling that slavery was good in any way?

 

[Yarddog]

Maybe his intentions were good but it totally misfired. That's a fact and it shows real poor judgement by the Meatball. Shows he's outa touch and a fucking weirdo.

yeah, I agree it was poor judgement. In his position he needs to know the powers that be are waiting for any mispeak to jump on. It works the same way for both sides.

 

[Yarddog]

How about the positive aspects of the Holocaust?
Free showers
Free rent
Free clothes

Such a deal!

I could actually make the judgment you just made when I see what the text has to say.

 

[Dadoalex]

I could actually make the judgment you just made when I see what the text has to say.

Don't forget the free tats

 

[Cougarbear]

Thanks! do you have a link to any of that curiculum? This was my exact thought, I was wondering if the mention of "benefits of slavery" was just a gloss over and is being blown out of proportion.

Never said "benefits" to slavery. The leftwing media is saying that. Camel Breath Harris is saying that. But, Allen is not. Allen, the African American who wrote the curriculum is a descendent of slaves, said it very clearly that learning skills made life in slavery better and then after slavery they were able to get jobs and start their own businesses. It doesn't say there is a benefit to be a slave. The 190 other areas speak to no benefit to be a slave. It's just stupid. Yet, they think CRT is okay to divide races and be racist towards white people.

Academic calls out Kamala Harris for mischaracterizing Florida's slavery curriculum | Fox News Video

Saturday's ABC World News Tonight did not air this portion of their interview with Florida's Black history curriculum co-creator William Allen.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Cougarbear]

Maybe his intentions were good but it totally misfired. That's a fact and it shows real poor judgement by the Meatball. Shows he's outa touch and a fucking weirdo.

Academic calls out Kamala Harris for mischaracterizing Florida's slavery curriculum | Fox News Video

Saturday's ABC World News Tonight did not air this portion of their interview with Florida's Black history curriculum co-creator William Allen.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Cougarbear]

If there were no slavery they'd be Africans, DUH!
and
If there were no slavery these African Americans would just be Americans.
AND
Here you are praising both the holocaust AND slavery.

You are a fruitcake. Stop doing the Democrat word twisting. You are right that there would be people who are Black in the U.S. right now. But not nearly as many as there are today. Not even close. Not 13% of the population. More like 1.3% of the population if that many.

 

[Arlette]

You are a fruitcake. Stop doing the Democrat word twisting. You are right that there would be people who are Black in the U.S. right now. But not nearly as many as there are today. Not even close. Not 13% of the population. More like 1.3% of the population if that many.

Wow

 

[Cougarbear]

Wow

Why do you think there would be more?

 

[Arlette]

Why do you think there would be more?

"Wow" is just my usual response when I encounter a real racist in the wild.

 

[Cougarbear]

"Wow" is just my usual response when I encounter a real racist in the wild.

Go to hell!