Murder is illegal, but is it also immoral or unethical?

[Delta4Embassy]

If God exists, along with heaven and hell, good faithful people who're murdered or otherwise die face their judgement, do well, and get their eternal reward. Or conversely, bad people get their eternal punishment. So is someone who murders others doing those people a favor?

We can't commit suicide (or murder for that matter) without incuring a sin ourselves. So while a murderer breaks the 6th commandment, if their victims are either rewarded or condemned, is the act of murder beyond being illegal and a sin in its own right, also immoral or unethical? Can say murder is very moral and ethical indeed because good people will be in heaven, bad ones in hell.

Extending this logic to its conclusion, abortion is moral and ethical because how guilty can a fetus be? Unless Catholic of course which says unbaptized babies go to hell albeit a 'mild' sort.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Hell

"the limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment;"

 

[hobelim]

So while a murderer breaks the 6th commandment, if their victims are either rewarded or condemned, is the act of murder beyond being illegal and a sin in its own right, also immoral or unethical? Can say murder is very moral and ethical indeed because good people will be in heaven, bad ones in hell.

the promise for obedience to the divine commands is life, the consequences for noncompliance is death.

When Jesus said of Satan, "he was a murderer from the beginning.", he was not referring to homicide as we currently understand the legal and technical definition of murder. He was referring to the story of Adam and Eve, ( the beginning), where they died a death that was not biological in nature in the very day they ate of the forbidden fruit after the serpent deceived them into defying the command of God not to.

It follows then that a murderer, in the eyes of God, is a person who misleads others into defying the divine commands which also sheds light on the hidden subject and true nature of the ressurection.

"Anyone who sets aside even the least of the laws demands, and teaches others to do the same, will have the lowest place in the kingdom of Heaven." Matthew 5:19

To understand what Jesus meant by saying, "the lowest place", see genesis 3


The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than all the wild beasts of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life;

 

[BreezeWood]

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Murder is illegal, but is it also immoral or unethical?

unless you are altering the definition of Murder to suit your whim there is nothing to be gained by your added quiry ... other than it is also immoral and unethical.

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[BluePhantom]

If God exists, along with heaven and hell, good faithful people who're murdered or otherwise die face their judgement, do well, and get their eternal reward. Or conversely, bad people get their eternal punishment. So is someone who murders others doing those people a favor?

We can't commit suicide (or murder for that matter) without incuring a sin ourselves. So while a murderer breaks the 6th commandment, if their victims are either rewarded or condemned, is the act of murder beyond being illegal and a sin in its own right, also immoral or unethical? Can say murder is very moral and ethical indeed because good people will be in heaven, bad ones in hell.

Extending this logic to its conclusion, abortion is moral and ethical because how guilty can a fetus be? Unless Catholic of course which says unbaptized babies go to hell albeit a 'mild' sort.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Hell

"the limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment;"

Delta, the main problem I see you having with any thread you start on religion is that you attempt to take large, complicated, mystical, abstract issues and force them into the context of the mortal experience.You try to stuff an elephant into a sandwich bag and that's why you come off as....well....silly. In a mystical sense, yes, it's very possible that murder causes no spiritual harm, in fact it probably doesn't. But that only applies to the mystical realm of the afterlife. It does not apply to the human experience. Depending upon what one believes is the purpose of life, murdering another interferes with their path and their purpose. Thus, it is not 'doing them a favor by hastening their reward'. That is the kind of thinking that lunatics who kill their children to protect them from Satan embrace. Rather, it is directly intruding upon their purpose for being here. Therefore, it is immoral and unethical from both a spiritual sense and how it applies to the human experience.

 

[zaangalewa]

If God exists, along with heaven and hell, good faithful people who're murdered or otherwise die face their judgement, do well, and get their eternal reward. Or conversely, bad people get their eternal punishment. So is someone who murders others doing those people a favor?

We can't commit suicide (or murder for that matter) without incuring a sin ourselves. So while a murderer breaks the 6th commandment, if their victims are either rewarded or condemned, is the act of murder beyond being illegal and a sin in its own right, also immoral or unethical? Can say murder is very moral and ethical indeed because good people will be in heaven, bad ones in hell.

Extending this logic to its conclusion, abortion is moral and ethical because how guilty can a fetus be? Unless Catholic of course which says unbaptized babies go to hell albeit a 'mild' sort.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Hell

"the limbo of infants (limbus parvulorum), where those who die in original sin alone, and without personal mortal sin, are confined and undergo some kind of punishment;"

The teaching of the holy catholic church is this:

Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception.

From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.

Source: Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

 

[BreezeWood]

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"murder" is mortal as in sin, it is an irretrievable crime a Spirit has no means to recompensate for or from.

what is bloodshed and confusion is something else.

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