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Do arabs have to wear a yellow crescent on their clothing? Are they restricted from certain professions? Are they restricted where they live? Are they packed into camps? Are they gassed?
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Palestinian Israelis,awaiting to get their land back,I would imagine Rocco..steveBillo_Really, et al,
Are you sure.
(COMMENT)It's not wrong at all. It's right on the money. Although you're right about it being the same God, that doesn't do you any good when you are Arab living in the "Jewish State".
I would be interested in knowing what the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry describe themselves as? Not long ago, I was attending a fraternal meeting of retired members of my profession, and was politely corrected when I referred to them as Israel-Palestinians; informed that the correct term is Arab-Israeli. Somewhat embarrassed, I listened more than I spoke.
What do the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry refer to themselves as in Israel??? Do they prefer to live under the same standard of living as Palestine (west Bank & Gaza) or Jordan?
Do the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry prefer living under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority or HAMAS?
Most Respectfully,
R
I'm not comparing Israel today with the Holocaust. I'm comparing it to the years leading up to the Holocaust.Do arabs have to wear a yellow crescent on their clothing? Are they restricted from certain professions? Are they restricted where they live? Are they packed into camps? Are they gassed?
How stupid.......They are restricted where they live......and .Absolutely those that are driven out of their homes and LAND by illegal stealingDo arabs have to wear a yellow crescent on their clothing? Are they restricted from certain professions? Are they restricted where they live? Are they packed into camps? Are they gassed?
Tear gas in an open area is not cyanide gas in a small room.As far as gassings go, many peaceful protests have been met with tear gas from Israeli authorities.
I didn't say it was.Tear gas in an open area is not cyanide gas in a small room.
(COMMENT)I'd like to know why Jews from all over the world can come to Israel, but Palestinian's who were driven out of the area (when Israel declared itself a state), cannot come back?Billo_Really, et al,
Are you sure.
(COMMENT)It's not wrong at all. It's right on the money. Although you're right about it being the same God, that doesn't do you any good when you are Arab living in the "Jewish State".
I would be interested in knowing what the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry describe themselves as? Not long ago, I was attending a fraternal meeting of retired members of my profession, and was politely corrected when I referred to them as Israel-Palestinians; informed that the correct term is Arab-Israeli. Somewhat embarrassed, I listened more than I spoke.
What do the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry refer to themselves as in Israel??? Do they prefer to live under the same standard of living as Palestine (west Bank & Gaza) or Jordan?
Do the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry prefer living under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority or HAMAS?
Most Respectfully,
R
They're not bored and no rocks are being thrown. They're doing it, just to be mean.Do they drop gas just because they are bored? The drop gas because there are rocks being thrown, violence happening.
You didn't make me climb down from anything. You didn't understand what my point was about, so you didn't know what you were responding to. And if you didn't know what you were responding to, then you certainly don't know what you're talking about.You have a remarkably dishonest OP. Equating what the Nazis did with what the Israelis do, and I made you climb down from every assertion.
This isn't immigration. These people were living there when they were driven out by Jewish terrorist groups. They have a right to return to their homes.Billo_Really, et al,
All nations of the world with sovereignty have the right to control immigration and establish border controls. Israel is no exception.
(COMMENT)I'd like to know why Jews from all over the world can come to Israel, but Palestinian's who were driven out of the area (when Israel declared itself a state), cannot come back?Billo_Really, et al,
Are you sure.
(COMMENT)It's not wrong at all. It's right on the money. Although you're right about it being the same God, that doesn't do you any good when you are Arab living in the "Jewish State".
I would be interested in knowing what the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry describe themselves as? Not long ago, I was attending a fraternal meeting of retired members of my profession, and was politely corrected when I referred to them as Israel-Palestinians; informed that the correct term is Arab-Israeli. Somewhat embarrassed, I listened more than I spoke.
What do the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry refer to themselves as in Israel??? Do they prefer to live under the same standard of living as Palestine (west Bank & Gaza) or Jordan?
Do the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry prefer living under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority or HAMAS?
Most Respectfully,
R
Since 1920 (San Remo Convention), there has been a goal and objective to establish a "Jewish National Home." It is a place of refuge and protection from hostile cultures and political systems with extremist ideologies that would present a continuous threat to the Jewish People. Among these hostile cultures are the Arab Palestinians that have taken a solemn declaration before the United Nations, before God and history, that they will never submit or yield to any power going to Palestine to enforce partition. This threat culture and hostile political system consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense. They have expressed the position that there no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
Iran and Syria continue to support the most active Hostile Arab-Palestinian Groups, the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) and the Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ). Iran also sponsors Lebanese Hezbollah.
It is unreasonable to assume that any country, let alone the target country for every Palestinian Terrorist, Insurgent, and Militant would open its borders to the very threat for which the Jewish National Home was created to protect against.
Most Respectfully,
R
Good laugh is a good start, of course.Billo_Really, et al,
This is so wrong, I scarcely know where to begin...
Did you see the first line in the thread?Good laugh is a good start, of course.
Fuzzy-dizzy drivel, fired by our honorable billo_really due electrocution, caused by a faulty GFI, was indeed funny.Where the fuck have you been?I missed you!Drivel.
(COMMENT)This isn't immigration. These people were living there when they were driven out by Jewish terrorist groups. They have a right to return to their homes.
Why is it okay for Jews to return after 2000 years, but Palestinian refugees can't return after 70 years?
Oh, indeed! Something about our honorable billo_really grabbed by a monkey! Shouldn't that be on youtoob?Did you see the first line in the thread?Good laugh is a good start, of course.
What is the "this" you are referring to?Yes, we've seen this used as an excuse to pursue hostile activities. It is the same excuse to use as a justification --- intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; to influence the policy of a government by through the threat or use of force.
I couldn't give a shit what washes with you, the comparison is valid.That comparison in time doesn't wash with me.
That is not true. Arab armies went in to restore law and order after it was evident Jewish terrorists were taking more land that was allocated to them in the Mandate when British troops vacated the area.It was generally understood, as was reported by the UN Palestine Commission in January 1948, that "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein."
The occupation and blockade are the cause of all the hostility in that area. Israel needs to end those, for hostility to cease.The reason is still simple. The Hostile Arab Palestinians still pose a threat and will use any opportunity to strike at noncombatant targets.
States don't have rights, people do.Many Palestinians, especially those followers of HAMAS, have not recognized the right of Israel to exist.
You got that backwards! That's Israel's vision. They call it, "The Greater Israel" plan, I do believe? All the Palestinian's want, are the inalienable rights Israel has been denying them for the last 70 years.They consider Palestine to be the entirety of the territory to which the Mandate applied, pre-termination.
They have every right in the world to resist the belligerent occupation of their land by a foreign force. Get the fuck off land that isn't yours and the armed resistance will go away.And these same Palestinians believe that Jihad and armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine. This is a threat.
The occupation had been going on for 34 years before the first rocket went up. And as long as the occupation and blockade continue, it will never be neutralized.Given the attacks and rocket fire, it is a very credible threat. And such a threat should be carefully neutralized.
The Admissions Committee's Act, is definitely a law passed by the Knesset.CERI is not law; it is an eligibility criteria and instructions for services and benefits.
I can agree with that, but what does it have to do with what I said?The definition of a refugee DOES NOT include persons that have acquired a new nationality, and enjoys the protection of the country of his new nationality.
Spin it any way you want, it doesn't change the fact that people living there in 1948, who were driven out by Jewish terrorist groups, have a right to return to those homes.That would rule out in the West Bank that was once under Jordanian Citizenship and anyone in the Gaza Strip under the umbrella of the All Palestine Government or accepted the protection of the Egyptian Military Governorship.
I have no idea what you're trying to say there?It would not necessarily follow that anyone relocated as a result of the "Civil War" (NIAC) prior to May 1948. It would be interesting to find out. Palestinian refugees are the only refugees that attempt to include descendants. And the UNRWA is a failed refugee program. While the
Billo_Really, et al,
All nations of the world with sovereignty have the right to control immigration and establish border controls. Israel is no exception.
(COMMENT)I'd like to know why Jews from all over the world can come to Israel, but Palestinian's who were driven out of the area (when Israel declared itself a state), cannot come back?Billo_Really, et al,
Are you sure.
(COMMENT)It's not wrong at all. It's right on the money. Although you're right about it being the same God, that doesn't do you any good when you are Arab living in the "Jewish State".
I would be interested in knowing what the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry describe themselves as? Not long ago, I was attending a fraternal meeting of retired members of my profession, and was politely corrected when I referred to them as Israel-Palestinians; informed that the correct term is Arab-Israeli. Somewhat embarrassed, I listened more than I spoke.
What do the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry refer to themselves as in Israel??? Do they prefer to live under the same standard of living as Palestine (west Bank & Gaza) or Jordan?
Do the Israeli's of Arab Ancestry prefer living under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority or HAMAS?
Most Respectfully,
R
Since 1920 (San Remo Convention), there has been a goal and objective to establish a "Jewish National Home." It is a place of refuge and protection from hostile cultures and political systems with extremist ideologies that would present a continuous threat to the Jewish People. Among these hostile cultures are the Arab Palestinians that have taken a solemn declaration before the United Nations, before God and history, that they will never submit or yield to any power going to Palestine to enforce partition. This threat culture and hostile political system consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression which will be resisted in self-defense. They have expressed the position that there no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
Iran and Syria continue to support the most active Hostile Arab-Palestinian Groups, the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) and the Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ). Iran also sponsors Lebanese Hezbollah.
It is unreasonable to assume that any country, let alone the target country for every Palestinian Terrorist, Insurgent, and Militant would open its borders to the very threat for which the Jewish National Home was created to protect against.
Most Respectfully,
R
Billo_Really, et al,
Yes, we've seen this used as an excuse to pursue hostile activities. It is the same excuse to use as a justification --- intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; to influence the policy of a government by through the threat or use of force.
(COMMENT)This isn't immigration. These people were living there when they were driven out by Jewish terrorist groups. They have a right to return to their homes.
Why is it okay for Jews to return after 2000 years, but Palestinian refugees can't return after 70 years?
That comparison in time doesn't wash with me. It was generally understood, as was reported by the UN Palestine Commission in January 1948, that "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein."
The reason is still simple. The Hostile Arab Palestinians still pose a threat and will use any opportunity to strike at noncombatant targets. Many Palestinians, especially those followers of HAMAS, have not recognized the right of Israel to exist. They consider Palestine to be the entirety of the territory to which the Mandate applied, pre-termination. And these same Palestinians believe that Jihad and armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine. This is a threat. Given the attacks and rocket fire, it is a very credible threat. And such a threat should be carefully neutralized.
(SIDE NOTE)
CERI is not law; it is an eligibility criteria and instructions for services and benefits. The definition of a refugee DOES NOT include persons that have acquired a new nationality, and enjoys the protection of the country of his new nationality. That would rule out in the West Bank that was once under Jordanian Citizenship and anyone in the Gaza Strip under the umbrella of the All Palestine Government or accepted the protection of the Egyptian Military Governorship.
It would not necessarily follow that anyone relocated as a result of the "Civil War" (NIAC) prior to May 1948. It would be interesting to find out. Palestinian refugees are the only refugees that attempt to include descendants. And the UNRWA is a failed refugee program. While the
Most Respectfully,
R
Tinny. Rocco has explained this to you, repeatedly, in excruciating detail. You don't get it because your insensate Joooooooo hatreds are more important to you than pretending to be a grownup.Billo_Really, et al,
Yes, we've seen this used as an excuse to pursue hostile activities. It is the same excuse to use as a justification --- intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; to influence the policy of a government by through the threat or use of force.
(COMMENT)This isn't immigration. These people were living there when they were driven out by Jewish terrorist groups. They have a right to return to their homes.
Why is it okay for Jews to return after 2000 years, but Palestinian refugees can't return after 70 years?
That comparison in time doesn't wash with me. It was generally understood, as was reported by the UN Palestine Commission in January 1948, that "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein."
The reason is still simple. The Hostile Arab Palestinians still pose a threat and will use any opportunity to strike at noncombatant targets. Many Palestinians, especially those followers of HAMAS, have not recognized the right of Israel to exist. They consider Palestine to be the entirety of the territory to which the Mandate applied, pre-termination. And these same Palestinians believe that Jihad and armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine. This is a threat. Given the attacks and rocket fire, it is a very credible threat. And such a threat should be carefully neutralized.
(SIDE NOTE)
CERI is not law; it is an eligibility criteria and instructions for services and benefits. The definition of a refugee DOES NOT include persons that have acquired a new nationality, and enjoys the protection of the country of his new nationality. That would rule out in the West Bank that was once under Jordanian Citizenship and anyone in the Gaza Strip under the umbrella of the All Palestine Government or accepted the protection of the Egyptian Military Governorship.
It would not necessarily follow that anyone relocated as a result of the "Civil War" (NIAC) prior to May 1948. It would be interesting to find out. Palestinian refugees are the only refugees that attempt to include descendants. And the UNRWA is a failed refugee program. While the
Most Respectfully,
RMany Palestinians, especially those followers of HAMAS, have not recognized the right of Israel to exist.
Do you have any documentation that says it does?
Your opinion on the right of return is very simplistic and Israel centric.Billo_Really, et al,
Yes, we've seen this used as an excuse to pursue hostile activities. It is the same excuse to use as a justification --- intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; to influence the policy of a government by through the threat or use of force.
(COMMENT)This isn't immigration. These people were living there when they were driven out by Jewish terrorist groups. They have a right to return to their homes.
Why is it okay for Jews to return after 2000 years, but Palestinian refugees can't return after 70 years?
That comparison in time doesn't wash with me. It was generally understood, as was reported by the UN Palestine Commission in January 1948, that "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein."
The reason is still simple. The Hostile Arab Palestinians still pose a threat and will use any opportunity to strike at noncombatant targets. Many Palestinians, especially those followers of HAMAS, have not recognized the right of Israel to exist. They consider Palestine to be the entirety of the territory to which the Mandate applied, pre-termination. And these same Palestinians believe that Jihad and armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine. This is a threat. Given the attacks and rocket fire, it is a very credible threat. And such a threat should be carefully neutralized.
(SIDE NOTE)
CERI is not law; it is an eligibility criteria and instructions for services and benefits. The definition of a refugee DOES NOT include persons that have acquired a new nationality, and enjoys the protection of the country of his new nationality. That would rule out in the West Bank that was once under Jordanian Citizenship and anyone in the Gaza Strip under the umbrella of the All Palestine Government or accepted the protection of the Egyptian Military Governorship.
It would not necessarily follow that anyone relocated as a result of the "Civil War" (NIAC) prior to May 1948. It would be interesting to find out. Palestinian refugees are the only refugees that attempt to include descendants. And the UNRWA is a failed refugee program. While the
Most Respectfully,
R