Never Collusion, Now Its Off to Paying a Hooker

[jc456]

so starksky, you aren't for finding russian collusion then?

 

[WEATHER53]

Americans have a weird position regarding sex, it reverts back to our Puritan times and Puritan ideology was a prime motivator of the Salem Witch Hunts

 

[Hellokitty]

Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.

The first matter that should have arose is why the FBI started the Russia investigation into the TRUMP campaign.

The FBI started a counterintelligence investigation into the Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Part of that investigation was to determine if any US persons aided Russia in their efforts.

When was it started and what was it based on?

In july of 2016.
Based on?
The FBI started a counterintelligence investigation into the Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.

What date and what was the direct FBI acquired evidence to start the investigation? I'll give you a hint Papadopoulos is the wrong answer.

 

[The Original Tree]

Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.

Yes, yes, yes...we know.

The Directors of the CIA, NIA, and FBI colluded and conspired together to assist the Russians conduct a Counter-Intelligence Operation in the United States by falsely / illegally pushing / presenting an unverified Russian-Authored document as 'Legitimate Intel' in order to successfully get Congress to appoint a Special Counsel, despite there being no legitimate evidence of a crime warranting an investigation and certainly no evidence of one Trump was involved in.

Once Congress agreed Rosenstein helped Mueller be appointed the lead 'political assassin' who then hand-picked his obvious Trump-hating partisan team to finish Trump off. Mueller was given complete authority not to just investigate a crime (again, especially since there was no crime Trump and his team were involved in in regards to illegally colluding with Russians) - Mueller was given the authority to investigate every detain at any point in their lives to find a crime - ANY CRIME they could use against Trump.

This was never an investigation of a CRIME and was completely an investigation of a PERSON to find a crime.

Webster's dictionary has been updated as a result of this investigation. Beside 'Witch Hunt' - it now reads 'See 'Robert Mueller'...

You left out the fact that it was "Salacious" and "Unverified" yet Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein and Yates, chose to use a document they knew was false and knew was paid for by Clinton and OBAMA TO ILLEGALLY SPY AGAINST TRUMP!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.

The first matter that should have arose is why the FBI started the Russia investigation into the TRUMP campaign.

The FBI started a counterintelligence investigation into the Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Part of that investigation was to determine if any US persons aided Russia in their efforts.

When was it started and what was it based on?

In july of 2016.
Based on?
The FBI started a counterintelligence investigation into the Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.

What date and what was the direct FBI acquired evidence to start the investigation? I'll give you a hint Papadopoulos is the wrong answer.

Then stop asking stupid questions and post what you have.

 

[Flopper]

The multiple scandals of the Trump crime syndicate are being investigated….

The investigations continue.

PS: It’s no longer collusion; its now conspiracy.

If there is no collusion then what is the conspiracy?

If the purpose of paying off a hooker (porn star) is to avoid bad publicity in a campaign and the funds are not accounted for it is a violation of federal election law. Whether it is a felony or misdemeanor depends on intent.
Conspiring with a foreign government to win an election. Conspiring with an attorney to violate campaign finance laws.

Even if Trump got Putin to post on Facebook that doesn't rise to "conspiring with a foreign government to win an election" (which I don't think is even a crime)

Getting your lawyer to pay off a hooker isn't a crime or "conspiring with an attorney to violate campaign finance laws"

As Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz has pointed out even if Trump "colluded" with Russia and paid off a hooker neither are crimes.

The only person who needs to go to be prosecuted is Mueller and his team.

Conspiring with a foreign government to win an election. Conspiring with an attorney to violate campaign finance laws.

Even if Trump got Putin to post on Facebook that doesn't rise to "conspiring with a foreign government to win an election" (which I don't think is even a crime)

Getting your lawyer to pay off a hooker isn't a crime or "conspiring with an attorney to violate campaign finance laws"

As Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz has pointed out even if Trump "colluded" with Russia and paid off a hooker neither are crimes.

The only person who needs to go to be prosecuted is Mueller and his team.

Paying someone to hack your opponent is a crime. Not reporting it as a campaign expense is a crime.

If Russia hacked Hillary's and the DNC server then everyone hacked the servers. So good luck trying to prove who actually released the emails.

Makes no sense but whatever.

It makes perfect sense. Russia isn't the only ones who hack or get involved in US politics. Russia most likely hacked the servers. What is also most likely is that North Korea, China, along with every other country capable, and the people on 4Chan all hacked the servers as well.

If Trump didn't report the the donations or the payments it came so late in the campaign that it wouldn't have been reported til after the election and it is the equivalent to jaywalking.

If? So now even if it is a felony…you are trying to minimize it. As predicted…the next step in Trump supporter-syndrome;

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As Alan Dershowitz said "This is going to be a very difficult case for the prosecution to make, precisely because the laws on election are so convoluted".

Man, you guys sure do love OJ’s lawyer…I guess felons of the feather flock together.

It is difficult to prove. Could be why Captain Mueller’s investigation in the private shin-splints is taking so long.

You do wan the truth to come out; right?

I don't care if he did or not. The crimes aren't severe enough to warrant a special counsel. In the case of "collusion" that isn't even a crime.[/QUOTE]
Collusion in the context it is being used is not a crime but collusion would almost surely lead to violations of federal law. Interestingly, the word collusion may have been first been used by Donald Trump himself in one of his tweets in early 2017.

It would be almost impossible to try the president in federal court because the president has authority over the court and can delay actions indefinitely.
If Trump ever faces a trial it will be an impeachment trial in the US Senate. This is a political process governed by the constitution and senate rules. There's a lots of differences between a criminal trial and impeachment trial.
First of all, a super majority is required to convict. Conviction carries no punishment other than removal from office. The Senate acts as a jury but unlike a jury, Senators determine whether the charges are an impeachable offense; that is, the charges are high crimes and misdemeanors. Senators are allowed to speak in the trial for or against the president, give evidence or say just about anything they choose. In reality, the decision of the Senate is a political decision and there is no appeal process.