New development in the shooting case of the black georgia jogger

[theHawk]

Facts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals

vs.

The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.

The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.

Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.

Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.

Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???

Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democrats

And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?

They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.

Oh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.

you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terrorist

Well they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?

In self defense? You terrorist

It wasn't in self defense. Georgia law does not protect the aggressor in an altercation with self defense. And Travis McMichael was the aggressor by arming himself with no knowledge of Arbery but with the intent to chase him down and stop him.

We clearly see the black kid darting in front of the truck to attack the son.. standing there with a shotgun is not an active and aggression he saying stop stop we want to talk to you

Liar, McMichael couldn't have just been standing there. Scotty didn't beam him from about 4 feet to the left of the truck to being in front of it.

He was asking him to stop so they could talk..

Which brings me back to ... with Travis block the road with a shotgun, why should Arbery have assumed they only wanted to talk?

Because they had been chasing the person for a good time. There is more info on this in the police report. But it is very inconceivable that at this point, he did not know what the deal was.

There was no reason for them to stop Arbery so there was no reason for why Arbery would know why they wanted him to stop.

They suspected him of burglary.

He was reported to 911.

No reason? Please...

How did they know he was suspected of burglary if the call went to 911?

The police report says:

According to the initial police report, the McMichaels told police that they pursued Arbery because he resembled a suspect in a string of local burglaries.

And soon we will almost certainly find out that he WAS the man behind the burglaries. And leftists will moan and cry as usual when their fake news story gets destroyed piece by piece.

Ok on the day of the shooting what did her burglarize?

The dwelling under construction.

Liar. There is no evidence Arbery burglarized that house. The 911 caller did not say anything was taken. The homeowner said nothing was taken. The video of Arbery inside the home does not show him taking anything or looking to take anything.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

Nothing needed to be taken, dumbass.
Merely being in the dwelling without permission is considered burglary in Georgia.

See my previous post, you won’t like it!

No, it's not. Merely being in the building may qualify for trespassing.

What do you think the difference is between trespassing and burglary?

Trespassing can be charged in public places, and other types of property such as vehicles and boats. Usually associated with damaging the property.

However if the property is a dwelling, then first degree burglary it is. Sorry to break it to you.

 

[Marianne]

It has now been revealed the black guy...Ahmaud Arbery has a criminal history....well no surprise there.
Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

The white Georgia man who, along with his son, are charged with murdering unarmed black jogger Ahmaud Arbery had a past connection to the victim.

nypost.com

What’s that got to do with anything? The owner of the house being built said nothing was stolen. The video shows nothing was stolen. The police said Arbery was UNARMED! His past had nothing to it. He did a common thing. He checked out a house being built and got killed for it by two idiots playing cop. If Arbery was a white dude arrests would have been made immediately but because he’s black and the suspects white and have ties to the local cops, no arrest was made. There is zero justification for killing this kid. The McMichaels need to rot in jail.

 

[theHawk]

Facts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals

vs.

The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.

The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.

Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.

Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.

Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???

Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democrats

And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?

They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.

Oh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.

you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terrorist

Well they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?

In self defense? You terrorist

It wasn't in self defense. Georgia law does not protect the aggressor in an altercation with self defense. And Travis McMichael was the aggressor by arming himself with no knowledge of Arbery but with the intent to chase him down and stop him.

We clearly see the black kid darting in front of the truck to attack the son.. standing there with a shotgun is not an active and aggression he saying stop stop we want to talk to you

Liar, McMichael couldn't have just been standing there. Scotty didn't beam him from about 4 feet to the left of the truck to being in front of it.

He was asking him to stop so they could talk..

Which brings me back to ... with Travis block the road with a shotgun, why should Arbery have assumed they only wanted to talk?

Because they had been chasing the person for a good time. There is more info on this in the police report. But it is very inconceivable that at this point, he did not know what the deal was.

There was no reason for them to stop Arbery so there was no reason for why Arbery would know why they wanted him to stop.

They suspected him of burglary.

He was reported to 911.

No reason? Please...

How did they know he was suspected of burglary if the call went to 911?

The police report says:

According to the initial police report, the McMichaels told police that they pursued Arbery because he resembled a suspect in a string of local burglaries.

And soon we will almost certainly find out that he WAS the man behind the burglaries. And leftists will moan and cry as usual when their fake news story gets destroyed piece by piece.

Stop lying. He said there were several "break-ins," not "burglaries.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

Entering a dwelling without authority *is* burglary in Georgia.

It is burglary only if the intent is to commit a felony and you dickless wonders can't fathom what that means. He didn't commit a felony, so there was no burglary.

Hey dickless wonder, where in the Georgia statute does it say they have to had committed another crime? It doesn’t. It says all they had to do was intend to commit a felony. Do YOU know that means? It means they didn’t actually have to commit another crime for it to be considered burglary.

But you are free to explain why a grown man would wonder into a private dwelling when he wasn’t authorized or invited to by the owner. Can’t wait to hear what his intention was if it wasn’t to steal something.

"It means they didn’t actually have to commit another crime for it to be considered burglary."

Correct, just intending to steal something can result in a burglary. We can look at Arbery to determine if he was intending to steal anything. First and foremost, did he take anything? No. Did he bring tools with him to break-in or steal? No. Did he bring anything with him to carry out stolen goods? No. Did he arrive in a car so he could get away with stolen goods? No. Did he head back towards his home when leaving the property? No.

There is no indication he was intending to steal anything. It appears, like many others, like he just wanted to look around at construction.

Uh-huh, he just wanted to “look at construction”.

Then why did he look around before RUNNING into the house?

Gawd, you’re SO pathetic trying to defend him.

You must be a thief yourself, to be tying to justify this dumb thug so much.

You failed. You couldn't show an intent to steal anything.

You failed to show what his intend was.

His intend was to steal, that is why he looked around to make sure no one saw him. That’s why he ran when he noticed neighbors saw him. See how easy that was?

 

[Norman]

It has now been revealed the black guy...Ahmaud Arbery has a criminal history....well no surprise there.
Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

The white Georgia man who, along with his son, are charged with murdering unarmed black jogger Ahmaud Arbery had a past connection to the victim.

nypost.com

What’s that got to do with anything? The owner of the house being built said nothing was stolen. The video shows nothing was stolen. The police said Arbery was UNARMED! His past had nothing to it. He did a common thing. He checked out a house being built and got killed for it by two idiots playing cop. If Arbery was a white dude arrests would have been made immediately but because he’s black and the suspects white and have ties to the local cops, no arrest was made. There is zero justification for killing this kid. The McMichaels need to rot in jail.

You just won the idiot award.

He did not get killed for illegal trespassing.

He died for charging a man with shotgun. Having charged a man with shotgun, his crimes likely were not as petty as you would like to believe.

 

[NotYourBody]

The Burglary that the McMichaels said was the reason they pursued never happened. So what reason did they have?

Just hypothetically, suppose they had not had a reason. So what ? The events shown on the video still show a self-defense shooting. Period.

Had Travis McMichael just been standing there minding his own business, and Arbery ran up on him and attacked him, you would be 100% correct.

But we're not dealing with a hypothetical situation.

Instead, we're dealing with a situation in which McMichal armed himself, chased Arbery down, and then exited his vehicle with the loaded shotgun. Those set of circumstances preclude McMichael from being able to legitimately claim he was acting in self defense...

I get what you are saying, it is a valid point. However if they intended to kill him from the start they could had shot him much earlier. They never did. Also, if Arbery feared for his life, then why did he run up behind them? He could had turned around and ran away, or ran to the left or right between houses to the next street. Instead he charged right at one of them and assaulted him.
At that point it doesn’t matter what happened previously, Travis had no choice but to shoot, otherwise Arbery would had likely shot him.

see these stupid fks think that once the blackman grabbed the gun, the white guy was just supposed to let him have it. Really, that's what they think. seriously, it is.

Yes. The moral of the story here is that if you witness someone trespassing or committing burglary in your neighborhood, don’t do anything. Especially if the place is under any kind of construction. Apparently it’s normal for people to wonder into a private dwelling under construction to “just look around”.

But, if someone does happen to call the police and report a burglar, don’t do anything to help out.

And certainly, if you did grab your gun and went out to look for any such perp, you should relinquish your weapon if he runs right at you and attacks you. Tell him you’re sorry and hope he doesn’t kill you.

Lessons from the left.

Yes, people like to look inside of houses under construction...

I lived in a neighborhood where my house was the third home completed on my street. I went into all the houses under construction, spent hours in those houses, took measurements, took pictures.

Nobody ever bothered me or chased me down with a gun and murdered me.

 

[theHawk]

It has now been revealed the black guy...Ahmaud Arbery has a criminal history....well no surprise there.
Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

The white Georgia man who, along with his son, are charged with murdering unarmed black jogger Ahmaud Arbery had a past connection to the victim.

nypost.com

What’s that got to do with anything? The owner of the house being built said nothing was stolen. The video shows nothing was stolen. The police said Arbery was UNARMED! His past had nothing to it. He did a common thing. He checked out a house being built and got killed for it by two idiots playing cop. If Arbery was a white dude arrests would have been made immediately but because he’s black and the suspects white and have ties to the local cops, no arrest was made. There is zero justification for killing this kid. The McMichaels need to rot in jail.

Georgia law explicitly states that unlawful entry into a dwelling is burglary. Nothing has to be stolen.

I didn't even steal anything: Even though you may not have stolen anything, you could still be convicted of burglary. According to Johnson v. Jackson, it is not necessary that the defendant actually steal anything. 140 Ga. App. 252, (1976). It is enough if they enter without authority and with intent to commit theft.

Burglary | Georgia Criminal Lawyer

www.georgiacriminallawyer.com

 

[Faun]

The Burglary that the McMichaels said was the reason they pursued never happened. So what reason did they have?

Just hypothetically, suppose they had not had a reason. So what ? The events shown on the video still show a self-defense shooting. Period.

Had Travis McMichael just been standing there minding his own business, and Arbery ran up on him and attacked him, you would be 100% correct.

But we're not dealing with a hypothetical situation.

Instead, we're dealing with a situation in which McMichal armed himself, chased Arbery down, and then exited his vehicle with the loaded shotgun. Those set of circumstances preclude McMichael from being able to legitimately claim he was acting in self defense...

I get what you are saying, it is a valid point. However if they intended to kill him from the start they could had shot him much earlier. They never did. Also, if Arbery feared for his life, then why did he run up behind them? He could had turned around and ran away, or ran to the left or right between houses to the next street. Instead he charged right at one of them and assaulted him.
At that point it doesn’t matter what happened previously, Travis had no choice but to shoot, otherwise Arbery would had likely shot him.

see these stupid fks think that once the blackman grabbed the gun, the white guy was just supposed to let him have it. Really, that's what they think. seriously, it is.

Yes. The moral of the story here is that if you witness someone trespassing or committing burglary in your neighborhood, don’t do anything. Especially if the place is under any kind of construction. Apparently it’s normal for people to wonder into a private dwelling under construction to “just look around”.

But, if someone does happen to call the police and report a burglar, don’t do anything to help out.

And certainly, if you did grab your gun and went out to look for any such perp, you should relinquish your weapon if he runs right at you and attacks you. Tell him you’re sorry and hope he doesn’t kill you.

Lessons from the left.

Yes, people like to look inside of houses under construction...

Which is criminal trespassing. Got a point?

Not necessarily. There has to be someone or something on the property warning them to stay out.

Bullshit. Did he have permission to enter?

Entering any private dwelling or vehicle is trespassing/burglary. There doesn’t need to be a sign. So stop lying.

He didn't need permission to enter a construction site.

Your ignorance is on parade for all to see. (my comments in blue)

Georgia Code Title 16. Crimes and Offenses § 16-7-21 | FindLaw

Georgia Title 16. Crimes and Offenses Section 16-7-21. Read the code on FindLaw

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(b) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority:

(1) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person for an unlawful purpose;

This section does not apply to Arbery. There was no unlawful purpose.

(2) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving, prior to such entry, notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant that such entry is forbidden; or

This section does not apply to Arbery. There were no signs to keep out and there was no notice by the owner or authorized representative. And even if there was, to violate this section, one must "remain" on the property after rightful person tells them to leave.

(3) Remains upon the land or premises of another person or within the vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant to depart.

This section does not apply to Arbery. None of the above gave Arbery notice And even if there was, to violate this section, one must "remain" on the property after rightful person tells them to leave.​

So yes, at the very least, there needed to be a sign warning of trespassing.

 

[Norman]

The Burglary that the McMichaels said was the reason they pursued never happened. So what reason did they have?

Just hypothetically, suppose they had not had a reason. So what ? The events shown on the video still show a self-defense shooting. Period.

Had Travis McMichael just been standing there minding his own business, and Arbery ran up on him and attacked him, you would be 100% correct.

But we're not dealing with a hypothetical situation.

Instead, we're dealing with a situation in which McMichal armed himself, chased Arbery down, and then exited his vehicle with the loaded shotgun. Those set of circumstances preclude McMichael from being able to legitimately claim he was acting in self defense...

I get what you are saying, it is a valid point. However if they intended to kill him from the start they could had shot him much earlier. They never did. Also, if Arbery feared for his life, then why did he run up behind them? He could had turned around and ran away, or ran to the left or right between houses to the next street. Instead he charged right at one of them and assaulted him.
At that point it doesn’t matter what happened previously, Travis had no choice but to shoot, otherwise Arbery would had likely shot him.

see these stupid fks think that once the blackman grabbed the gun, the white guy was just supposed to let him have it. Really, that's what they think. seriously, it is.

Yes. The moral of the story here is that if you witness someone trespassing or committing burglary in your neighborhood, don’t do anything. Especially if the place is under any kind of construction. Apparently it’s normal for people to wonder into a private dwelling under construction to “just look around”.

But, if someone does happen to call the police and report a burglar, don’t do anything to help out.

And certainly, if you did grab your gun and went out to look for any such perp, you should relinquish your weapon if he runs right at you and attacks you. Tell him you’re sorry and hope he doesn’t kill you.

Lessons from the left.

Yes, people like to look inside of houses under construction...

I lived in a neighborhood where my house was the third home completed on my street. I went into all the houses under construction, spent hours in those houses, took measurements, took pictures.

Nobody ever bothered me or chased me down with a gun and murdered me.

And when someone stopped to question you, did you charge for his shotgun after running away? Did you always look around to see if no one is looking?

Did the dwellings include almost completed homes?

 

[theHawk]

The Burglary that the McMichaels said was the reason they pursued never happened. So what reason did they have?

Just hypothetically, suppose they had not had a reason. So what ? The events shown on the video still show a self-defense shooting. Period.

Had Travis McMichael just been standing there minding his own business, and Arbery ran up on him and attacked him, you would be 100% correct.

But we're not dealing with a hypothetical situation.

Instead, we're dealing with a situation in which McMichal armed himself, chased Arbery down, and then exited his vehicle with the loaded shotgun. Those set of circumstances preclude McMichael from being able to legitimately claim he was acting in self defense...

I get what you are saying, it is a valid point. However if they intended to kill him from the start they could had shot him much earlier. They never did. Also, if Arbery feared for his life, then why did he run up behind them? He could had turned around and ran away, or ran to the left or right between houses to the next street. Instead he charged right at one of them and assaulted him.
At that point it doesn’t matter what happened previously, Travis had no choice but to shoot, otherwise Arbery would had likely shot him.

see these stupid fks think that once the blackman grabbed the gun, the white guy was just supposed to let him have it. Really, that's what they think. seriously, it is.

Yes. The moral of the story here is that if you witness someone trespassing or committing burglary in your neighborhood, don’t do anything. Especially if the place is under any kind of construction. Apparently it’s normal for people to wonder into a private dwelling under construction to “just look around”.

But, if someone does happen to call the police and report a burglar, don’t do anything to help out.

And certainly, if you did grab your gun and went out to look for any such perp, you should relinquish your weapon if he runs right at you and attacks you. Tell him you’re sorry and hope he doesn’t kill you.

Lessons from the left.

Yes, people like to look inside of houses under construction...

I lived in a neighborhood where my house was the third home completed on my street. I went into all the houses under construction, spent hours in those houses, took measurements, took pictures.

Nobody ever bothered me or chased me down with a gun and murdered me.

Your intent wasn’t to steal anything.

This wasn’t a neighborhood under construction, it was one house. He had no business being there.

Nice try though.

 

[Faun]

That's your opinion.

What cops call this is probable-cause.
Nobody bothered to ask whether the owner would have wanted to press charges.
So you know DICK about the law or the situation.

Yes they did.

Owner of house Ahmaud Arbery purportedly entered before fatal shooting is getting death threats

From the article -

In the months before February, a motion-activated camera had captured videos of someone inside the construction site a handful of times, Graddy said. The first time, English called a non-emergency police number and reported the unauthorized entry, Graddy said.

"He never used the word 'burglary,'" she said, adding that nothing has ever been stolen from or damaged at the property. "My client did not want people to come on to the property because it's just not safe."

English never shared any of this information with the McMichaels, whom he did not even know, according to his attorney.

"Even if there had been a robbery, however, the English family would not have wanted a vigilante response," Graddy said. "They would have entrusted the matter to law enforcement authorities."

That's not what I asked.
I asked if the assumption was charges would have been filed if this perp hadn't been killed.
It's difficult to file charges against a corpse.

I'm sure the owner didn't want him killed. He acted like knucklehead, but he didn't deserve to die. However, he'd be alive today if he hadn't acted like an idiot.

He'd be alive today if a couple of half-wit racists hadn't chased him down and murdered him for no reason.

“No reason”?
The thug was committing first degree burglary in their neighborhood.

If little thug boy didn’t trespass on private property, he’d be alive today.

You're still lying. Arbery committed no burglary. He likely didn't even commit criminal trespassing.

 

[Godboy]

Facts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals

vs.

The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.

The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.

Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.

Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.

Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???

Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democrats

And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?

They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.

Oh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.

you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terrorist

Well they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?

In self defense? You terrorist

It wasn't in self defense. Georgia law does not protect the aggressor in an altercation with self defense. And Travis McMichael was the aggressor by arming himself with no knowledge of Arbery but with the intent to chase him down and stop him.

We clearly see the black kid darting in front of the truck to attack the son.. standing there with a shotgun is not an active and aggression he saying stop stop we want to talk to you

Liar, McMichael couldn't have just been standing there. Scotty didn't beam him from about 4 feet to the left of the truck to being in front of it.

He was asking him to stop so they could talk..

Which brings me back to ... with Travis block the road with a shotgun, why should Arbery have assumed they only wanted to talk?

Because they had been chasing the person for a good time. There is more info on this in the police report. But it is very inconceivable that at this point, he did not know what the deal was.

There was no reason for them to stop Arbery so there was no reason for why Arbery would know why they wanted him to stop.

They suspected him of burglary.

He was reported to 911.

No reason? Please...

How did they know he was suspected of burglary if the call went to 911?

maybe they live across the street or something. why do you think it matters? I can stop anyone and ask them questions. you still haven't answered why you feel that's a crime.

They don't live across the street. Brandishing a gun is illegal dumbass!

If they just wanted to talk to him, why carry a gun?

post the statute then. The guy in the back of the truck an ex police officer I'd think knows his laws and what he can do. Experience they call that. why does it matter if they had a gun? you still didn't answer. In fact you haven't answered or provided any evidence for your position. I have the video for mine. still waiting.

Why should I do that? It has been posted numerous times in the thread. Are you too fucking lazy to do your homework. What are you 12 years old?

well it states pointing a weapon. you still haven't stated when that happened. why not? five times now I've asked you to show us that evidence. Why do you avoid that? so,so far no statute has been posted to describe a crime.

The suspect obviously points the gun at the victim and in the struggle shoots the victim. Watch the video with your eyes open. That might help, dumbass!

He pointed it at him AFTER the burglar started punching him and trying to grab the shotgun.

 

[Faun]

That's your opinion.

What cops call this is probable-cause.
Nobody bothered to ask whether the owner would have wanted to press charges.
So you know DICK about the law or the situation.

Yes they did.

Owner of house Ahmaud Arbery purportedly entered before fatal shooting is getting death threats

From the article -

In the months before February, a motion-activated camera had captured videos of someone inside the construction site a handful of times, Graddy said. The first time, English called a non-emergency police number and reported the unauthorized entry, Graddy said.

"He never used the word 'burglary,'" she said, adding that nothing has ever been stolen from or damaged at the property. "My client did not want people to come on to the property because it's just not safe."

English never shared any of this information with the McMichaels, whom he did not even know, according to his attorney.

"Even if there had been a robbery, however, the English family would not have wanted a vigilante response," Graddy said. "They would have entrusted the matter to law enforcement authorities."

That's not what I asked.
I asked if the assumption was charges would have been filed if this perp hadn't been killed.
It's difficult to file charges against a corpse.

I'm sure the owner didn't want him killed. He acted like knucklehead, but he didn't deserve to die. However, he'd be alive today if he hadn't acted like an idiot.

He'd be alive today if a couple of half-wit racists hadn't chased him down and murdered him for no reason.

“No reason”?
The thug was committing first degree burglary in their neighborhood.

If little thug boy didn’t trespass on private property, he’d be alive today.

"If little thug boy didn’t trespass on private property, he’d be alive today."

That's a flat out lie. The McMichaels had no knowledge he was in the house. All they saw was a "black male" running down the street. Let me break this down for the less intelligent folks around here ... That means even had Arbery not entered that house, had Gregory McMichael seen Arbery running past his house, the exact same set of events would have unfolded.

 

[Norman]

That's your opinion.

What cops call this is probable-cause.
Nobody bothered to ask whether the owner would have wanted to press charges.
So you know DICK about the law or the situation.

Yes they did.

Owner of house Ahmaud Arbery purportedly entered before fatal shooting is getting death threats

From the article -

In the months before February, a motion-activated camera had captured videos of someone inside the construction site a handful of times, Graddy said. The first time, English called a non-emergency police number and reported the unauthorized entry, Graddy said.

"He never used the word 'burglary,'" she said, adding that nothing has ever been stolen from or damaged at the property. "My client did not want people to come on to the property because it's just not safe."

English never shared any of this information with the McMichaels, whom he did not even know, according to his attorney.

"Even if there had been a robbery, however, the English family would not have wanted a vigilante response," Graddy said. "They would have entrusted the matter to law enforcement authorities."

That's not what I asked.
I asked if the assumption was charges would have been filed if this perp hadn't been killed.
It's difficult to file charges against a corpse.

I'm sure the owner didn't want him killed. He acted like knucklehead, but he didn't deserve to die. However, he'd be alive today if he hadn't acted like an idiot.

He'd be alive today if a couple of half-wit racists hadn't chased him down and murdered him for no reason.

“No reason”?
The thug was committing first degree burglary in their neighborhood.

If little thug boy didn’t trespass on private property, he’d be alive today.

You're still lying. Arbery committed no burglary. He likely didn't even commit criminal trespassing.

He had shoplifting of a television on his record. His brother is waiting to be prosecuted without bail as of right now I believe.

Keep siding for criminals.

 

[Faun]

Facts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals

vs.

The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.

The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.

Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.

Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.

Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???

Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democrats

And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?

They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.

Oh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.

you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terrorist

Well they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?

In self defense? You terrorist

It wasn't in self defense. Georgia law does not protect the aggressor in an altercation with self defense. And Travis McMichael was the aggressor by arming himself with no knowledge of Arbery but with the intent to chase him down and stop him.

We clearly see the black kid darting in front of the truck to attack the son.. standing there with a shotgun is not an active and aggression he saying stop stop we want to talk to you

Liar, McMichael couldn't have just been standing there. Scotty didn't beam him from about 4 feet to the left of the truck to being in front of it.

He was asking him to stop so they could talk..

Which brings me back to ... with Travis block the road with a shotgun, why should Arbery have assumed they only wanted to talk?

Because they had been chasing the person for a good time. There is more info on this in the police report. But it is very inconceivable that at this point, he did not know what the deal was.

There was no reason for them to stop Arbery so there was no reason for why Arbery would know why they wanted him to stop.

They suspected him of burglary.

He was reported to 911.

No reason? Please...

How did they know he was suspected of burglary if the call went to 911?

maybe they live across the street or something. why do you think it matters? I can stop anyone and ask them questions. you still haven't answered why you feel that's a crime.

They don't live across the street. Brandishing a gun is illegal dumbass!

If they just wanted to talk to him, why carry a gun?

post the statute then. The guy in the back of the truck an ex police officer I'd think knows his laws and what he can do. Experience they call that. why does it matter if they had a gun? you still didn't answer. In fact you haven't answered or provided any evidence for your position. I have the video for mine. still waiting.

Why should I do that? It has been posted numerous times in the thread. Are you too fucking lazy to do your homework. What are you 12 years old?

well it states pointing a weapon. you still haven't stated when that happened. why not? five times now I've asked you to show us that evidence. Why do you avoid that? so,so far no statute has been posted to describe a crime.

The suspect obviously points the gun at the victim and in the struggle shoots the victim. Watch the video with your eyes open. That might help, dumbass!

He pointed it at him AFTER the burglar started punching him and trying to grab the shotgun.

Then how did Arbery get shot?

 

[Godboy]

Facts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals

vs.

The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.

The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.

Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.

Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.

Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???

Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democrats

And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?

They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.

Oh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.

you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terrorist

Well they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?

Self defense isn’t Murder terrorist

And it isn’t self defense. In Georgia you can’t claim Self Defense if you were the instigator of the confrontation, or in the commission of a felony. Otherwise every idiot who robbed a store and killed the clerk would claim self defense.

More stupidity....the instigator was the black guy...he instigated by assaulting the guy with the shotgun...I suppose he thought he could snatch it and if he had been successful doing that...what would he have done then?

Let me ask you this....if you have a weapon on you and someone is trying to take it away from you...would you be in fear of your life?

The more posts of yours I read the more obvious it is....you wayyyyyyy out there...I mean wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out there. No common sense. No logic----only a crazy movie running in your head entitled all black people are innocent victims.

More bullshit. The McMichaels instigated this by chasing Arbery down. Even after Arbery got away from them, they continued their pursuit until Arbery was left with little choice but to fight for his life.

There is no law against chasing someone. Why are you intent on making up laws, while ignoring that fact that assault is obviously very illegal?

I didn't say there was a law against chasing someone. Have you always been this stupid? But when you chase someone for no good reason, you are instigating an altercation, should that occur.

No, attacking someone is instigating a confrontation.

The attack followed the provocation by the McMichaels.

Since when is it ok to attack someone because they "provoked" you? You people have the WORST arguments.

 

[theHawk]

The Burglary that the McMichaels said was the reason they pursued never happened. So what reason did they have?

Just hypothetically, suppose they had not had a reason. So what ? The events shown on the video still show a self-defense shooting. Period.

Had Travis McMichael just been standing there minding his own business, and Arbery ran up on him and attacked him, you would be 100% correct.

But we're not dealing with a hypothetical situation.

Instead, we're dealing with a situation in which McMichal armed himself, chased Arbery down, and then exited his vehicle with the loaded shotgun. Those set of circumstances preclude McMichael from being able to legitimately claim he was acting in self defense...

I get what you are saying, it is a valid point. However if they intended to kill him from the start they could had shot him much earlier. They never did. Also, if Arbery feared for his life, then why did he run up behind them? He could had turned around and ran away, or ran to the left or right between houses to the next street. Instead he charged right at one of them and assaulted him.
At that point it doesn’t matter what happened previously, Travis had no choice but to shoot, otherwise Arbery would had likely shot him.

see these stupid fks think that once the blackman grabbed the gun, the white guy was just supposed to let him have it. Really, that's what they think. seriously, it is.

Yes. The moral of the story here is that if you witness someone trespassing or committing burglary in your neighborhood, don’t do anything. Especially if the place is under any kind of construction. Apparently it’s normal for people to wonder into a private dwelling under construction to “just look around”.

But, if someone does happen to call the police and report a burglar, don’t do anything to help out.

And certainly, if you did grab your gun and went out to look for any such perp, you should relinquish your weapon if he runs right at you and attacks you. Tell him you’re sorry and hope he doesn’t kill you.

Lessons from the left.

Yes, people like to look inside of houses under construction...

Which is criminal trespassing. Got a point?

Not necessarily. There has to be someone or something on the property warning them to stay out.

Bullshit. Did he have permission to enter?

Entering any private dwelling or vehicle is trespassing/burglary. There doesn’t need to be a sign. So stop lying.

He didn't need permission to enter a construction site.

Your ignorance is on parade for all to see. (my comments in blue)

Georgia Code Title 16. Crimes and Offenses § 16-7-21 | FindLaw

Georgia Title 16. Crimes and Offenses Section 16-7-21. Read the code on FindLaw

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(b) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority:​

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(1) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person for an unlawful purpose;​

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This section does not apply to Arbery. There was no unlawful purpose. ​

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(2) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving, prior to such entry, notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant that such entry is forbidden; or​

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This section does not apply to Arbery. There were no signs to keep out and there was no notice by the owner or authorized representative. And even if there was, to violate this section, one must "remain" on the property after rightful person tells them to leave.​

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(3) Remains upon the land or premises of another person or within the vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant to depart.​

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This section does not apply to Arbery. None of the above gave Arbery notice And even if there was, to violate this section, one must "remain" on the property after rightful person tells them to leave.​

So yes, at the very least, there needed to be a sign warning of trespassing.

Wrong. First Degree Burglary is what he did. It was a dwelling, he had no permission to enter, he had criminal intent.

Claiming “he had no unlawful purpose” is you blowing sunshine up your own ass. Claiming he was “just looking” wouldn’t pass the bullshit test of any judge.

 

[Faun]

The dirtbags defending the burglar won’t like this:

In 2005, a man was convicted of burglary for stealing items from two garages. Davis v. State, 275 Ga. App. 174. The man would pull up to open garages of homes and take stuff out of the garages. When the homeowner's looked in their garages, they noticed that some tools had gone missing. The same tools were pawned later that afternoon, and the man arrested soon after. The Court convicted the man of two counts of burglary. Even though he never entered into a house and the garage was open, therefore he did not physically have to break in and enter, the Court still found him guilty of burglary. Their reasoning was that he did not have permission to come into the garage, and he entered with the intent to steal. Therefore, he was found guilty.

...

I didn't even steal anything: Even though you may not have stolen anything, you could still be convicted of burglary. According to Johnson v. Jackson, it is not necessary that the defendant actually steal anything. 140 Ga. App. 252, (1976). It is enough if they enter without authority and with intent to commit theft.

Burglary | Georgia Criminal Lawyer

www.georgiacriminallawyer.com

For police. Yes. Not for Citizens Arrest. For Citizens Arrest the actual crime has to be committed.

An actual crime was committed. First degree burglary.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

However what I don't like about this character who got shot was the smiling picture which makes him look innocent in the story. Sort of like the misleading pic of Trayvon that was shown. Since the victim here has a criminal record, why didn't they show his official Mug Shot instead of a high school yearbook pic

Usually mug shots are only published when someone has presently been arrested.

 

[Faun]

Facts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals

vs.

The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.

The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.

Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.

Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.

Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???

Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democrats

And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?

They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.

Oh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.

you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terrorist

Well they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?

In self defense? You terrorist

It wasn't in self defense. Georgia law does not protect the aggressor in an altercation with self defense. And Travis McMichael was the aggressor by arming himself with no knowledge of Arbery but with the intent to chase him down and stop him.

We clearly see the black kid darting in front of the truck to attack the son.. standing there with a shotgun is not an active and aggression he saying stop stop we want to talk to you

Liar, McMichael couldn't have just been standing there. Scotty didn't beam him from about 4 feet to the left of the truck to being in front of it.

He was asking him to stop so they could talk..

Which brings me back to ... with Travis block the road with a shotgun, why should Arbery have assumed they only wanted to talk?

Because they had been chasing the person for a good time. There is more info on this in the police report. But it is very inconceivable that at this point, he did not know what the deal was.

There was no reason for them to stop Arbery so there was no reason for why Arbery would know why they wanted him to stop.

They suspected him of burglary.

He was reported to 911.

No reason? Please...

How did they know he was suspected of burglary if the call went to 911?

The police report says:

According to the initial police report, the McMichaels told police that they pursued Arbery because he resembled a suspect in a string of local burglaries.

And soon we will almost certainly find out that he WAS the man behind the burglaries. And leftists will moan and cry as usual when their fake news story gets destroyed piece by piece.

Stop lying. He said there were several "break-ins," not "burglaries.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

Entering a dwelling without authority *is* burglary in Georgia.

It is burglary only if the intent is to commit a felony and you dickless wonders can't fathom what that means. He didn't commit a felony, so there was no burglary.

Hey dickless wonder, where in the Georgia statute does it say they have to had committed another crime? It doesn’t. It says all they had to do was intend to commit a felony. Do YOU know that means? It means they didn’t actually have to commit another crime for it to be considered burglary.

But you are free to explain why a grown man would wonder into a private dwelling when he wasn’t authorized or invited to by the owner. Can’t wait to hear what his intention was if it wasn’t to steal something.

"It means they didn’t actually have to commit another crime for it to be considered burglary."

Correct, just intending to steal something can result in a burglary. We can look at Arbery to determine if he was intending to steal anything. First and foremost, did he take anything? No. Did he bring tools with him to break-in or steal? No. Did he bring anything with him to carry out stolen goods? No. Did he arrive in a car so he could get away with stolen goods? No. Did he head back towards his home when leaving the property? No.

There is no indication he was intending to steal anything. It appears, like many others, like he just wanted to look around at construction.

Uh-huh, he just wanted to “look at construction”.

Then why did he look around before RUNNING into the house?

Gawd, you’re SO pathetic trying to defend him.

You must be a thief yourself, to be tying to justify this dumb thug so much.

Could have been looking for a "do not trespass" sign.

 

[Godboy]

Facts of this case......a father and son associated with law enforcement and never in trouble of any kind, never arrested for anything but are called criminals by the liberals

vs.

The black jogger............who comidtted a felony (brought a gun to school) was convicted placed on 5 yrs probation.

The he engaged in theft thus violating his probation.....but nothing was done...he should have been in jail. If he had been where he belonged he would still be alive.

Yet the liberals want us to believe he is just so innocent...he ranks right up there with Mother Teresa
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Then just like the the Zimmerman case the media plays games with photos..........show the best possible photo of the black dude they could find......but show the white dudes in their jail outfit.

Keep tuned this case is getting crazier by the second.

Latest development....video emerges of the black dude visiting that same home at night....what is that all about? Did he have some sort of obsession with that house....maybe Satan lured him there...as in the devil made him do it???

Miscarriage of justice,, poor guys are being lynched by democrats

And the Earth is Flat. We faked the moon landing. Artificial Sweeteners are good for you, and Anna Nicole married for Love. Any other insane conspiracy theories you believe in besides these?

They did nothing wrong, if you stop pretending the black did nothing wrong it might dawn on you that this is serious. These men deserve to be treated fairly. Just stop pretending this kid did nothing wrong it insane.

Oh, they'll be treated fairly -- once they're incarcerated. Inmates love cops.

you sound like a terrorist.. you want two innocent men in jail to die for political reasons, to race bait.. you are a terrorist

Well they murdered someone, so why is it unfair for them to face the same consequences?

In self defense? You terrorist

It wasn't in self defense. Georgia law does not protect the aggressor in an altercation with self defense. And Travis McMichael was the aggressor by arming himself with no knowledge of Arbery but with the intent to chase him down and stop him.

We clearly see the black kid darting in front of the truck to attack the son.. standing there with a shotgun is not an active and aggression he saying stop stop we want to talk to you

Liar, McMichael couldn't have just been standing there. Scotty didn't beam him from about 4 feet to the left of the truck to being in front of it.

He was asking him to stop so they could talk..

Which brings me back to ... with Travis block the road with a shotgun, why should Arbery have assumed they only wanted to talk?

Because they had been chasing the person for a good time. There is more info on this in the police report. But it is very inconceivable that at this point, he did not know what the deal was.

There was no reason for them to stop Arbery so there was no reason for why Arbery would know why they wanted him to stop.

They suspected him of burglary.

He was reported to 911.

No reason? Please...

How did they know he was suspected of burglary if the call went to 911?

maybe they live across the street or something. why do you think it matters? I can stop anyone and ask them questions. you still haven't answered why you feel that's a crime.

They don't live across the street. Brandishing a gun is illegal dumbass!

If they just wanted to talk to him, why carry a gun?

post the statute then. The guy in the back of the truck an ex police officer I'd think knows his laws and what he can do. Experience they call that. why does it matter if they had a gun? you still didn't answer. In fact you haven't answered or provided any evidence for your position. I have the video for mine. still waiting.

Why should I do that? It has been posted numerous times in the thread. Are you too fucking lazy to do your homework. What are you 12 years old?

well it states pointing a weapon. you still haven't stated when that happened. why not? five times now I've asked you to show us that evidence. Why do you avoid that? so,so far no statute has been posted to describe a crime.

The suspect obviously points the gun at the victim and in the struggle shoots the victim. Watch the video with your eyes open. That might help, dumbass!

He pointed it at him AFTER the burglar started punching him and trying to grab the shotgun.

Then how did Arbery get shot?

He pulled the trigger, thats how.