New Mexico school shooting once again shows gun laws do not stop mass shooters....

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Here we have another example of the failure of anti gunner gun laws failing. Background checks would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun registration would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun free school zones did not stop the shooter. Magazine limits would not have saved lives...he brought more than one....and could have simply brought even more or another guns.

Background checks......he passed one to buy his gun....and again, the god of the anti gunners, government, failed again....this guy had posted a comment about doing a mass shooting on an online gaming forum....and the FBI went to him and interviewed him......and gave him a pass. And no, universal background checks would not have stopped him, he bought his gun legally, which means he went through a current, federally mandated background check...which means he would have passed a universal background check for a private sale too.

The gun free school zone law....failed....since he simply walked into the school with his gun....

What saved lives? Training the staff how to react to shooters the ant gunner gun laws can't stop. What saved lives...? Cops with guns arriving, forcing the shooter to kill himself.

And on a side note....I am currently watching the Showtime documentary series "Active Shooter," and I am in the middle of the Washington D.C. shooter episode. D.C.....at the time a gun free zone.....the Naval yard...a gun free zone......the guy used a pump action shot gun.....which shows that the anti gunners will not stop at AR-15s and semi auto pistols and 10 round magazines.....he murdered 12 people with that pump action shotgun....

Granted.....the guy in Nice murdered 86 with a rental truck.......but a pump action shotgun at the right target is going to make it a goal of the anti gunners too....

Aztec High School shooting: 2 slain students identified - CNN
 
Here we have another example of the failure of anti gunner gun laws failing. Background checks would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun registration would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun free school zones did not stop the shooter. Magazine limits would not have saved lives...he brought more than one....and could have simply brought even more or another guns.

Background checks......he passed one to buy his gun....and again, the god of the anti gunners, government, failed again....this guy had posted a comment about doing a mass shooting on an online gaming forum....and the FBI went to him and interviewed him......and gave him a pass. And no, universal background checks would not have stopped him, he bought his gun legally, which means he went through a current, federally mandated background check...which means he would have passed a universal background check for a private sale too.

The gun free school zone law....failed....since he simply walked into the school with his gun....

What saved lives? Training the staff how to react to shooters the ant gunner gun laws can't stop. What saved lives...? Cops with guns arriving, forcing the shooter to kill himself.

And on a side note....I am currently watching the Showtime documentary series "Active Shooter," and I am in the middle of the Washington D.C. shooter episode. D.C.....at the time a gun free zone.....the Naval yard...a gun free zone......the guy used a pump action shot gun.....which shows that the anti gunners will not stop at AR-15s and semi auto pistols and 10 round magazines.....he murdered 12 people with that pump action shotgun....

Granted.....the guy in Nice murdered 86 with a rental truck.......but a pump action shotgun at the right target is going to make it a goal of the anti gunners too....

Aztec High School shooting: 2 slain students identified - CNN
Hard to believe you can hold this up as a defense against gun laws.
LOL
 
Here we have another example of the failure of anti gunner gun laws failing. Background checks would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun registration would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun free school zones did not stop the shooter. Magazine limits would not have saved lives...he brought more than one....and could have simply brought even more or another guns.

Background checks......he passed one to buy his gun....and again, the god of the anti gunners, government, failed again....this guy had posted a comment about doing a mass shooting on an online gaming forum....and the FBI went to him and interviewed him......and gave him a pass. And no, universal background checks would not have stopped him, he bought his gun legally, which means he went through a current, federally mandated background check...which means he would have passed a universal background check for a private sale too.

The gun free school zone law....failed....since he simply walked into the school with his gun....

What saved lives? Training the staff how to react to shooters the ant gunner gun laws can't stop. What saved lives...? Cops with guns arriving, forcing the shooter to kill himself.

And on a side note....I am currently watching the Showtime documentary series "Active Shooter," and I am in the middle of the Washington D.C. shooter episode. D.C.....at the time a gun free zone.....the Naval yard...a gun free zone......the guy used a pump action shot gun.....which shows that the anti gunners will not stop at AR-15s and semi auto pistols and 10 round magazines.....he murdered 12 people with that pump action shotgun....

Granted.....the guy in Nice murdered 86 with a rental truck.......but a pump action shotgun at the right target is going to make it a goal of the anti gunners too....

Aztec High School shooting: 2 slain students identified - CNN
Hard to believe you can hold this up as a defense against gun laws.
LOL


You mean since none of the gun laws you guys want stopped this guy from murdering two people....and then you go on to push for more gun laws that still wouldn't stop this shooter......? You mean like that? Please show us which gun laws you guys want would have stopped this shooter...since you decided to chime in. Please...we are waiting......
 
He had been investigated last year by the fbi and the case closed.
 
Here we have another example of the failure of anti gunner gun laws failing. Background checks would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun registration would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun free school zones did not stop the shooter. Magazine limits would not have saved lives...he brought more than one....and could have simply brought even more or another guns.

Background checks......he passed one to buy his gun....and again, the god of the anti gunners, government, failed again....this guy had posted a comment about doing a mass shooting on an online gaming forum....and the FBI went to him and interviewed him......and gave him a pass. And no, universal background checks would not have stopped him, he bought his gun legally, which means he went through a current, federally mandated background check...which means he would have passed a universal background check for a private sale too.

The gun free school zone law....failed....since he simply walked into the school with his gun....

What saved lives? Training the staff how to react to shooters the ant gunner gun laws can't stop. What saved lives...? Cops with guns arriving, forcing the shooter to kill himself.

And on a side note....I am currently watching the Showtime documentary series "Active Shooter," and I am in the middle of the Washington D.C. shooter episode. D.C.....at the time a gun free zone.....the Naval yard...a gun free zone......the guy used a pump action shot gun.....which shows that the anti gunners will not stop at AR-15s and semi auto pistols and 10 round magazines.....he murdered 12 people with that pump action shotgun....

Granted.....the guy in Nice murdered 86 with a rental truck.......but a pump action shotgun at the right target is going to make it a goal of the anti gunners too....

Aztec High School shooting: 2 slain students identified - CNN
Hard to believe you can hold this up as a defense against gun laws.
LOL


You mean since none of the gun laws you guys want stopped this guy from murdering two people....and then you go on to push for more gun laws that still wouldn't stop this shooter......? You mean like that? Please show us which gun laws you guys want would have stopped this shooter...since you decided to chime in. Please...we are waiting......
You KNOW what I would like. The vast majority of Americans have no need for a gun and they shouldn't have one.
 
He had been investigated last year by the fbi and the case closed.
The FBI's rules need to be more flexible. They keep "letting people go" who they probably know are flaky and capable of mass murder but they don't have enough evidence. Could they at least have put him on the no-guns allowed list after their investigation, since the reason they closed it was that he didn't yet own a gun? So then the guy went and bought one.
 
He had been investigated last year by the fbi and the case closed.
The FBI's rules need to be more flexible. They keep "letting people go" who they probably know are flaky and capable of mass murder but they don't have enough evidence. Could they at least have put him on the no-guns allowed list after their investigation, since the reason they closed it was that he didn't yet own a gun? So then the guy went and bought one.
Or on a list to be alerted if he applied for a gun.
 
Here we have another example of the failure of anti gunner gun laws failing. Background checks would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun registration would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun free school zones did not stop the shooter. Magazine limits would not have saved lives...he brought more than one....and could have simply brought even more or another guns.

Background checks......he passed one to buy his gun....and again, the god of the anti gunners, government, failed again....this guy had posted a comment about doing a mass shooting on an online gaming forum....and the FBI went to him and interviewed him......and gave him a pass. And no, universal background checks would not have stopped him, he bought his gun legally, which means he went through a current, federally mandated background check...which means he would have passed a universal background check for a private sale too.

The gun free school zone law....failed....since he simply walked into the school with his gun....

What saved lives? Training the staff how to react to shooters the ant gunner gun laws can't stop. What saved lives...? Cops with guns arriving, forcing the shooter to kill himself.

And on a side note....I am currently watching the Showtime documentary series "Active Shooter," and I am in the middle of the Washington D.C. shooter episode. D.C.....at the time a gun free zone.....the Naval yard...a gun free zone......the guy used a pump action shot gun.....which shows that the anti gunners will not stop at AR-15s and semi auto pistols and 10 round magazines.....he murdered 12 people with that pump action shotgun....

Granted.....the guy in Nice murdered 86 with a rental truck.......but a pump action shotgun at the right target is going to make it a goal of the anti gunners too....

Aztec High School shooting: 2 slain students identified - CNN
Hard to believe you can hold this up as a defense against gun laws.
LOL


You mean since none of the gun laws you guys want stopped this guy from murdering two people....and then you go on to push for more gun laws that still wouldn't stop this shooter......? You mean like that? Please show us which gun laws you guys want would have stopped this shooter...since you decided to chime in. Please...we are waiting......
You KNOW what I would like. The vast majority of Americans have no need for a gun and they shouldn't have one.


You mean the 1,500,000 Americans who actually use their guns each year to stop violent criminals including some mass shooters? Do you mean them?

Can you tell us how you know which Americans won't need their guns to save their lives each year? Can you know that in advance?
 
He had been investigated last year by the fbi and the case closed.
The FBI's rules need to be more flexible. They keep "letting people go" who they probably know are flaky and capable of mass murder but they don't have enough evidence. Could they at least have put him on the no-guns allowed list after their investigation, since the reason they closed it was that he didn't yet own a gun? So then the guy went and bought one.


You mean....like, with no crime being committed.....like that? How about we put all democrats on the list...since the majority of gun crime in the country is caused by people who vote for democrats......?
 
He had been investigated last year by the fbi and the case closed.
The FBI's rules need to be more flexible. They keep "letting people go" who they probably know are flaky and capable of mass murder but they don't have enough evidence. Could they at least have put him on the no-guns allowed list after their investigation, since the reason they closed it was that he didn't yet own a gun? So then the guy went and bought one.
Or on a list to be alerted if he applied for a gun.


Even if he bought a gun....he hadn't committed a crime and so if the FBI was notified.....what would they have done?
 
As long as any kind of gun is out there, those who want them badly enough will find a way to get them no matter what law about them does or doesn't exist.

God bless you always!!!

Holly
 
We don't need more gun laws because that's how Hitler controlled his Germany. He passed laws so that no citizens could own guns so when he did whatever he wanted no one could do a thing to defend the defenseless. We need better mental health care. There are a lot of crazy people out there who need help but instead they are ignored one way or the other and bam they kill with a gun usually. Guns are bad because they make killing much easier but outlawing them is not the answer.
 
As long as any kind of gun is out there, those who want them badly enough will find a way to get them no matter what law about them does or doesn't exist.

God bless you always!!!

Holly
Only law abiding citizens will obey laws. The criminals don't give a crap about the law.
 
Here we have another example of the failure of anti gunner gun laws failing. Background checks would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun registration would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun free school zones did not stop the shooter. Magazine limits would not have saved lives...he brought more than one....and could have simply brought even more or another guns.

Background checks......he passed one to buy his gun....and again, the god of the anti gunners, government, failed again....this guy had posted a comment about doing a mass shooting on an online gaming forum....and the FBI went to him and interviewed him......and gave him a pass. And no, universal background checks would not have stopped him, he bought his gun legally, which means he went through a current, federally mandated background check...which means he would have passed a universal background check for a private sale too.

The gun free school zone law....failed....since he simply walked into the school with his gun....

What saved lives? Training the staff how to react to shooters the ant gunner gun laws can't stop. What saved lives...? Cops with guns arriving, forcing the shooter to kill himself.

And on a side note....I am currently watching the Showtime documentary series "Active Shooter," and I am in the middle of the Washington D.C. shooter episode. D.C.....at the time a gun free zone.....the Naval yard...a gun free zone......the guy used a pump action shot gun.....which shows that the anti gunners will not stop at AR-15s and semi auto pistols and 10 round magazines.....he murdered 12 people with that pump action shotgun....

Granted.....the guy in Nice murdered 86 with a rental truck.......but a pump action shotgun at the right target is going to make it a goal of the anti gunners too....

Aztec High School shooting: 2 slain students identified - CNN
Hard to believe you can hold this up as a defense against gun laws.
LOL


You mean since none of the gun laws you guys want stopped this guy from murdering two people....and then you go on to push for more gun laws that still wouldn't stop this shooter......? You mean like that? Please show us which gun laws you guys want would have stopped this shooter...since you decided to chime in. Please...we are waiting......

Do you apply this to all illegal activities? Since no law will stop rape, then we do not need rape laws? Since no law will stop speeding, we do not need speed limits?

How far are you willing to take this logic of yours?
 
We don't need more gun laws because that's how Hitler controlled his Germany. He passed laws so that no citizens could own guns so when he did whatever he wanted no one could do a thing to defend the defenseless. We need better mental health care. There are a lot of crazy people out there who need help but instead they are ignored one way or the other and bam they kill with a gun usually. Guns are bad because they make killing much easier but outlawing them is not the answer.

The Hitler taking guns thing is a myth.

MYTH OF GUN CONTROL IN GERMANY, 1928-1945
 
Here we have another example of the failure of anti gunner gun laws failing. Background checks would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun registration would not have stopped the shooter, he bought his gun legally. Gun free school zones did not stop the shooter. Magazine limits would not have saved lives...he brought more than one....and could have simply brought even more or another guns.

Background checks......he passed one to buy his gun....and again, the god of the anti gunners, government, failed again....this guy had posted a comment about doing a mass shooting on an online gaming forum....and the FBI went to him and interviewed him......and gave him a pass. And no, universal background checks would not have stopped him, he bought his gun legally, which means he went through a current, federally mandated background check...which means he would have passed a universal background check for a private sale too.

The gun free school zone law....failed....since he simply walked into the school with his gun....

What saved lives? Training the staff how to react to shooters the ant gunner gun laws can't stop. What saved lives...? Cops with guns arriving, forcing the shooter to kill himself.

And on a side note....I am currently watching the Showtime documentary series "Active Shooter," and I am in the middle of the Washington D.C. shooter episode. D.C.....at the time a gun free zone.....the Naval yard...a gun free zone......the guy used a pump action shot gun.....which shows that the anti gunners will not stop at AR-15s and semi auto pistols and 10 round magazines.....he murdered 12 people with that pump action shotgun....

Granted.....the guy in Nice murdered 86 with a rental truck.......but a pump action shotgun at the right target is going to make it a goal of the anti gunners too....

Aztec High School shooting: 2 slain students identified - CNN
Hard to believe you can hold this up as a defense against gun laws.
LOL


You mean since none of the gun laws you guys want stopped this guy from murdering two people....and then you go on to push for more gun laws that still wouldn't stop this shooter......? You mean like that? Please show us which gun laws you guys want would have stopped this shooter...since you decided to chime in. Please...we are waiting......

Do you apply this to all illegal activities? Since no law will stop rape, then we do not need rape laws? Since no law will stop speeding, we do not need speed limits?

How far are you willing to take this logic of yours?
No rape law will stop a rapist either. No speeding law will stop a reckless driver. You can have all the laws about everything you want so the criminals can be put away for breaking it if they are ever caught. In the end no law will stop criminals from being criminals. Laws just make the law abiding citizen who is clueless feel better but we do need laws. Because how else do we deal with the few criminals that are caught.

So, guns laws maybe enacted but it will stop no one.
 
We don't need more gun laws because that's how Hitler controlled his Germany. He passed laws so that no citizens could own guns so when he did whatever he wanted no one could do a thing to defend the defenseless. We need better mental health care. There are a lot of crazy people out there who need help but instead they are ignored one way or the other and bam they kill with a gun usually. Guns are bad because they make killing much easier but outlawing them is not the answer.

The Hitler taking guns thing is a myth.

MYTH OF GUN CONTROL IN GERMANY, 1928-1945
You go ahead and believe that crap that this guy writes. I have met many germans who will tell you other wise.
 
We don't need more gun laws because that's how Hitler controlled his Germany. He passed laws so that no citizens could own guns so when he did whatever he wanted no one could do a thing to defend the defenseless. We need better mental health care. There are a lot of crazy people out there who need help but instead they are ignored one way or the other and bam they kill with a gun usually. Guns are bad because they make killing much easier but outlawing them is not the answer.

The Hitler taking guns thing is a myth.

MYTH OF GUN CONTROL IN GERMANY, 1928-1945
You go ahead and believe that crap that this guy writes. I have met many germans who will tell you other wise.
The colonist knew better. If they could not have owned weapons then we would still be under the united kingdom's rule of law.
I do not own any guns. I will never have anything to do with guns but I will not tell my neighbors they can't or shouldn't own a gun. Forget Germany's history or lack there of because the founding fathers understood how bad humans can be to each other which is why we have the constitution.
 
We need citizens who own guns legally to stop the criminal who has it illegally. Many a mass shooter was stop by someone with a legal right to carry a gun. One example in recent memory was a professor in Texas who went to get his gun from his car to shoot the bad gunman trying to kill/injure innocent students.

I'm not for guns but I'm for freedom to choose.
 
Just because Hitler or any other leader passes a law against guns it does not mean the people who have all the guns will give them up or stop collecting.
 

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