No Peace.

[georgephillip]

You highly selective about the recent history of Palestine; what did Lord Balfour say about a Jewish homeland in Palestine, specifically about the rights of non Jews?

 

[Kondor3]

You highly selective about the recent history of Palestine; what did Lord Balfour say about a Jewish homeland in Palestine, specifically about the rights of non Jews?

It doesn't matter a damn... the War for Palestine has been fought... and won by the Israelis in 1967... they will keep the Golan Heights... they will Keep Jerusalem... and they will complete the process of nudging out the remaining West Bank folk over the next decade or two, so that there's nothing left but Gaza, and that'll be next.

The Arabs had plenty of opportunities to 'make nice' between 1948 and 1967 and threw them all away. Well... like it or not, it's too late now. No return of the Golan. No surrender of Israeli control of Jerusalem. No Right of Return. It's too late for all that now. Decades too late.

It's over. Within 20 years, the West Bank will be purely Israeli and there won't be anything more than a postage-stamp left of Gaza. It's time to toss in the towel and leave the region.

 

[irosie91]

there was a comment in the declaration about the rights of both
jews and non-jews---in that the rights of neither group should be
abridged anywhere in the lands under british control----in fact the
isa worshippers enacted widespread pogroms as a response---
georgie dear

 

[georgephillip]

You highly selective about the recent history of Palestine; what did Lord Balfour say about a Jewish homeland in Palestine, specifically about the rights of non Jews?

It doesn't matter a damn... the War for Palestine has been fought... and won by the Israelis in 1967... they will keep the Golan Heights... they will Keep Jerusalem... and they will complete the process of nudging out the remaining West Bank folk over the next decade or two, so that there's nothing left but Gaza, and that'll be next.

The Arabs had plenty of opportunities to 'make nice' between 1948 and 1967 and threw them all away. Well... like it or not, it's too late now. No return of the Golan. No surrender of Israeli control of Jerusalem. No Right of Return. It's too late for all that now. Decades too late.

It's over. Within 20 years, the West Bank will be purely Israeli and there won't be anything more than a postage-stamp left of Gaza. It's time to toss in the towel and leave the region.

Within twenty years Israel will be FLUSHED down the same shit hole as White South Africa.
Good riddance to the last settler colonial outpost on the planet.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Within twenty years Israel will be FLUSHED down the same shit hole..."

The maps tell a different story... but good luck with that, though...

Say 'goodnight', Gracie...

 

[georgephillip]

there was a comment in the declaration about the rights of both
jews and non-jews---in that the rights of neither group should be
abridged anywhere in the lands under british control----in fact the
isa worshippers enacted widespread pogroms as a response---
georgie dear

Thank you, rosie...please don't forget the coincidence of the Royal Navy, oil, and..." a little, loyal Jewish Ulster in a sea of potentially hostile Arabism."

"Storrs’ analogy was no accident. Ireland was where the English invented the tactic of divide and conquer, and where the devastating effectiveness of using foreign settlers to drive a wedge between the colonial rulers and the colonized made it a template for worldwide imperial rule."

In fact, the only reason Israel was created was to ensure a sea of hostile Arabs.

Divide and Conquer as Imperial Rules | FPIF

 

[georgephillip]

"...Within twenty years Israel will be FLUSHED down the same shit hole..."

The maps tell a different story... but good luck with that, though...

That map tells a story of ethnic cleansing.
You'll need a lot more than luck with that.

 

[Kondor3]

"...That map tells a story of ethnic cleansing. You'll need a lot more than luck with that."

Vae victus.

They no longer require luck. And they will soon have all the land they ever wished for.

With the Peace that Final Victory brings, the world at-large will breathe a sigh of relief and will soon forget these Losers.

It's over.

Mop-up and consolidation operations continue.

 

[georgephillip]

"...That map tells a story of ethnic cleansing. You'll need a lot more than luck with that."

Vae victus.

They no longer require luck. And they will soon have all the land they ever wished for.

With the Peace that Final Victory brings, the world at-large will breathe a sigh of relief and will soon forget these Losers.

It's over.

Mop-up and consolidation operations continue.

How much land will they have stolen?

 

[Hossfly]

"...That map tells a story of ethnic cleansing. You'll need a lot more than luck with that."

Vae victus.

They no longer require luck. And they will soon have all the land they ever wished for.

With the Peace that Final Victory brings, the world at-large will breathe a sigh of relief and will soon forget these Losers.

It's over.

Mop-up and consolidation operations continue.

How much land will they have stolen?

The've stolen nothing. Heres the plan.

Empire David/Solomon

 

[RoccoR]

Kondor3, georgephillip, et al,

George, our friend (Kondor3) is correct.

It doesn't matter a damn... the War for Palestine has been fought... and won by the Israelis in 1967... they will keep the Golan Heights... they will Keep Jerusalem... and they will complete the process of nudging out the remaining West Bank folk over the next decade or two, so that there's nothing left but Gaza, and that'll be next.

The Arabs had plenty of opportunities to 'make nice' between 1948 and 1967 and threw them all away. Well... like it or not, it's too late now. No return of the Golan. No surrender of Israeli control of Jerusalem. No Right of Return. It's too late for all that now. Decades too late.

It's over. Within 20 years, the West Bank will be purely Israeli and there won't be anything more than a postage-stamp left of Gaza. It's time to toss in the towel and leave the region.

(COMMENT)

There are documents and event which will always be important from a historical viewpoint; but, the purpose or intentions embedded in them have been overtaken by events. At one time, it was extremely important to today's events - what was said by Lord Balfour, or in the Treaty of Sevres, or the Charter and Mandate. Yes, they are important on how we got here. But, as to what is applicable today - relative to Israel - are the instruments that are in force today; the Peace Treaties, the Armistice, the Hamas Charter, and the edicts of Hezbollah (to name a few).

You have to evaluate today and ask yourself:

• What is changeable?
• What is unalterable?
• What is reasonable?
• What matters?

In many discussions, I've notice that I get caught-up in debates that have no relevance to the here and now. What happened a hundred years ago, whether correct or not, happened. It is the consequences that are important. Whether Israel was properly created or not, it cannot be undone. It is. The wars, and the lost ground, are a consequence of a conscious choice to a long-term and continuous conflict. And the Palestinian choice to remain a threat to regional security and the territorial integrity of Israel will have future consequences not yet realized; but clearly, "occupation" is a consequence.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Kondor3]

Just so...

 

[georgephillip]

Vae victus.

They no longer require luck. And they will soon have all the land they ever wished for.

With the Peace that Final Victory brings, the world at-large will breathe a sigh of relief and will soon forget these Losers.

It's over.

Mop-up and consolidation operations continue.

How much land will they have stolen?

The've stolen nothing. Heres the plan.

Empire David/Solomon

Here's Plan B:

"The Assyrians conquered Israel in 722 or 721 B.C. The Babylonians conquered Judea or Judah around 586 B.C. They destroyed Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, and exiled a large number of Jews. About 50 years later, the Persian king Cyrus conquered Babylonia. Cyrus allowed a group of Jews from Babylonia to rebuild Jerusalem and settle in it."

The Persians have changed their minds.
Kindly inform the kosher squatters.

Brief History of of Palestine, Israel and the Israeli Palestinian Conflict (Arab-Israeli conflict, Middle East Conflict)

 

[Kondor3]

It doesn't matter. The world is bone-weary over this and wants it done-with. Enough already. Look at the map. It's over. Find another place to live. Soon.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

How much land will they have stolen?

The've stolen nothing. Heres the plan.

Empire David/Solomon

Here's Plan B:

"The Assyrians conquered Israel in 722 or 721 B.C. The Babylonians conquered Judea or Judah around 586 B.C. They destroyed Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, and exiled a large number of Jews. About 50 years later, the Persian king Cyrus conquered Babylonia. Cyrus allowed a group of Jews from Babylonia to rebuild Jerusalem and settle in it."

The Persians have changed their minds.
Kindly inform the kosher squatters.

Brief History of of Palestine, Israel and the Israeli Palestinian Conflict (Arab-Israeli conflict, Middle East Conflict)

I think you mean the halal squatters.

 

[Kondor3]

"...The Persians have changed their minds. Kindly inform the kosher squatters..."

Then they must come and take it - if they're Man Enough - and if they can.

Otherwise, best to mind their own business and to stay home, and play Whiney-Bitch from the safety of the sidelines, and save themselves the embarrassment of getting their asses kicked again.

Look at the map.

It's over.

 

[pbel]

Vae victus.

They no longer require luck. And they will soon have all the land they ever wished for.

With the Peace that Final Victory brings, the world at-large will breathe a sigh of relief and will soon forget these Losers.

It's over.

Mop-up and consolidation operations continue.

How much land will they have stolen?

The've stolen nothing. Heres the plan.

Empire David/Solomon

Hosshiite strikes again....

 

[Kondor3]

Doesn't matter... it's over... mop-up and consolidation operations continue.

 

[pbel]

It doesn't matter. The world is bone-weary over this and wants it done-with. Enough already. Look at the map. It's over. Find another place to live. Soon.

The World just recognized a Palestinian State to the 67 borders and a boycott has begun...Yes Israel won't comply and has the military power to resist... 1.4 billion Muslims will also resist and wait until they get their military power updated...fifty years, a hundred, or a thousand, like the Palestinians, they will not cower...The end game is yet to be seen.

 

[georgephillip]

The've stolen nothing. Heres the plan.

Empire David/Solomon

Here's Plan B:

"The Assyrians conquered Israel in 722 or 721 B.C. The Babylonians conquered Judea or Judah around 586 B.C. They destroyed Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, and exiled a large number of Jews. About 50 years later, the Persian king Cyrus conquered Babylonia. Cyrus allowed a group of Jews from Babylonia to rebuild Jerusalem and settle in it."

The Persians have changed their minds.
Kindly inform the kosher squatters.

Brief History of of Palestine, Israel and the Israeli Palestinian Conflict (Arab-Israeli conflict, Middle East Conflict)

I think you mean the halal squatters.

Why don't you both get out and make room for Free Kurdistan?