No reparations without repatriation

[excalibur]

You want reparations? Fine, then leave too, and leave us in peace because once you burn through those reparations and are still living here you'll start the whining all over again.

Accept reparations, and you automatically lose citizenship and the right to remain here and can never return. You must leave, and we repeal the 14th Amendment. Bye.

 

[excalibur]

FFS! Begone!

 

[excalibur]

 

[Crepitus]

You want reparations? Fine, then leave too, and leave us in peace because once you burn through those reparations and are still living here you'll start the whining all over again.

Accept reparations, and you automatically lose citizenship and the right to remain here and can never return. You must leave, and we repeal the 14th Amendment. Bye.

Are you native American?

 

[MarcATL]

Sorry OP, that's not how any of this works. #SorryNotSorry

 

[White 6]

You want reparations? Fine, then leave too, and leave us in peace because once you burn through those reparations and are still living here you'll start the whining all over again.

Accept reparations, and you automatically lose citizenship and the right to remain here and can never return. You must leave, and we repeal the 14th Amendment. Bye.

You are a Bostonian, willing to see the City of Boston pay reparations if all in the boston area that accept them, leave the country to never return? You seem kind of a sick dreamer.

Personally, I am against all reparations, by any city, county, state, US government or any entity financed by government taxes of any kind. Mine is a more consistent conservative position. You should work on yours.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Every black who bitches about reparations should instead have a lifestyle improvement tax levied against them. Base the tax on a prorate of their percentage of DNA that links them to their slave country of origin and a comparison to that country’s current standard of living.

 

[White 6]

Every black who bitches about reparations should instead have a lifestyle improvement tax levied against them. Base the tax on a prorate of their percentage of DNA that links them to their slave country of origin and a comparison to that country’s current standard of living.

It is not even a conservative idea to even discuss the ludicrous idea of reparations based on inequities of the 19 century and before, to be paid by the citizens of the 21st century. We do not owe it, and will not pay it. Giving money is just like giving drugs.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Giving money is just like giving drugs.

That’s the democrat idea. Keeps the race-vote farm cultivated.

 

[White 6]

That’s the democrat idea. Keeps the race-vote farm cultivated.

Sorry. Didn't know you were a card carrying Democrat. Didn't mean to insult. Thought you had conservative leanings, but simply losing your way.
If you ever become a conservative, not simply a partisan populist, the correct answer for proposed reparations is Just Say No.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Sorry. Didn't know you were a card carrying Democrat. Didn't mean to insult. Thought you had conservative leanings, but simply losing your way.
If you ever become a conservative, not simply a partisan populist, the correct answer for proposed reparations is Just Say No.

I’m no democrat. What made you say that?
Just saying no is way too little. The racist cretins need to be charged for being so stupid and bigoted as to ask for reparations.
They need to be assessed a lifestyle enhancement tax.

 

[IM2]

You want reparations? Fine, then leave too, and leave us in peace because once you burn through those reparations and are still living here you'll start the whining all over again.

Accept reparations, and you automatically lose citizenship and the right to remain here and can never return. You must leave, and we repeal the 14th Amendment. Bye.

Whites don't get to make that decision. That demand was given to no other group who has received reparations. So if you don't like blacks getting reparations- YOU REPATRIATE!

After all, whites have recieved economic help on at least 8 different occasions and still want more. So don't talk about people burning up money then start whining again beacause that's all whites have ever done.

This ain't your country white man.

 

[MarcATL]

Whites don't get to make that decision. That demand was given to no other group who has received reparations. So if you don't like blacks getting reparations- YOU REPATRIATE!

After all, whites have recieved economic help on at least 8 different occasions and still want more. So don't talk about people burning up money then start whining again beacause that's all whites have ever done.

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This ain't your country white man.

Facts.

 

[Orangecat]

You want reparations? Fine, then leave too, and leave us in peace because once you burn through those reparations and are still living here you'll start the whining all over again.

Accept reparations, and you automatically lose citizenship and the right to remain here and can never return. You must leave, and we repeal the 14th Amendment. Bye.

How about just giving those whiny cvnts a one way boat ticket as reparations?
Problem solved.

 

[White 6]

I’m no democrat. What made you say that?
Just saying no is way too little. The racist cretins need to be charged for being so stupid and bigoted as to ask for reparations.
They need to be assessed a lifestyle enhancement tax.

So, you want to punish and tax, eh? No matter what party, does that sound like a conservative position that would have been support by William F. Buckley. I don't think so. It sounds like an idea that would be popular with populists, not constrained to right and wrong or history, or the law, or the constitution. Don't punish. Anybody can ask for anything. Sometimes the correct answer is simply No, and then going on about normal business. Just say No, and leave them to argue with somebody else. Normal people have better thing to do and better discussions to have. Just Say No.

 

[IM2]

Sorry. Didn't know you were a card carrying Democrat. Didn't mean to insult. Thought you had conservative leanings, but simply losing your way.
If you ever become a conservative, not simply a partisan populist, the correct answer for proposed reparations is Just Say No.

No it's not. Have you EVER looked at the eviedence supporting the case for reparations or is your opiinion just a reflexive answer based on ignorance? And I'm being kind by calling it that. We aren't talking about ineaquites only for for the 19th century but since you want to continue arguing like it is:

I am quite sure no one living in 1980 was alive when the U.S.government made the Fort Laramie treaty with the Sioux Nation or were participants in Custers violation of that treaty. Nor were they alive when President Grant decided it was OK to let settlers and people prospecting for gold tresspass into land promised to the Sioux thereby violating the treaty. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to take the land from the Sioux by military force. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to cut off supplies they promised the Sioux as condition for their surrender after whipping the U.S. Army at The Battle of Little Bighorn. But in 1980, the government of the United States decided reparations were due to the Sioux Nation.

On June 30, 1980, the US Supreme Court ruled that the government had illegally taken land in the Black Hills granted by the 1868 treaty, by unlawfully abrogating article two of the agreement during negotiations in 1876, while failing to achieve the signatures of two-thirds the adult male population required to do so. It upheld an award of $15.5 million for the market value of the land in 1877, along with 103 years worth of interest at 5 percent, for an additional $105 million.

Treaty of Fort Laramie (1868) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Sioux were awarded 105 million in 1980 for something that happened inthe 19th century.

You guys argue and made rude cimments and you have not looked at one bit of evidence. It is a position of both ignorance and arrogance.

For example:
Boston University Public Interest Law Journal
Volume 29, Issue 135
Winter 2019
BLACK REPARATIONS FOR TWENTIETH CENTURY FEDERAL
HOUSING DISCRIMINATION:
THE CONSTRUCTION OF WHITE WEALTH AND THE EFFECTS OF
DENIED BLACK HOMEOWNERSHIP

This paper examines the U.S. government’s instigation, participation,authorization, and perpetuation of federal housing discrimination against black Americans from the 1930s to the 1980s and the damage that such discrimination caused and continues to cause today. Delving into the U.S. government’s twentieth century federal housing practices, this paper discusses how the government effectively barred black-Americans from obtaining quality housing and from investing in housing as wealth, while simultaneously subsidizing and endorsing white homeownership, white suburbs, and white wealth.

Part I examines the U.S. government’s housing practices—from the New Deal until the 1968 Fair Housing Act and its 1988 Amendments—to reveal that although the New Deal’s national housing programs revolutionized homeownership and home equity in the United States, the U.S. government’s federal housing programs were racially discriminatory. Specifically, and quite shockingly, the U.S. government actively created and promulgated racist neighborhood rating systems that constructed

black neighborhoods and black property as unstable, volatile, hazardous, and not worthy of investment. Using these racist rating systems, the federal government endorsed racial covenants and invested federal money into the creation and accumulation of white wealth, the value of whiteness, white suburbia, and white homeownership. Meanwhile, the government denied blacks federal housing funding, fueling black stigma and barring black-Americans from the invaluable twentieth century opportunities of homeownership and home equity.

Understanding the U.S. government’s discriminatory housing practices, Part II discusses and quantifies the effects of the government’s housing discrimination on black-American households and communities. Finding that approximately 120 billion 1950s dollars--or more than 1.239 quintillion 2019 dollars—were invested to subsidize and create white-American wealth through homeownership...

Black Reparations for Twentieth Century Federal Housing Discrimination: The Construction of White Wealth and the Effects of Denied Black Homeownership

This year marks the 400th anniversary of the first documented arrival of Africans to the United States, which resulted in the enslavement of approximately 4 mil

deliverypdf.ssrn.com

Now you benefitted from this growing up at minimum. So it is dishonest for whites to sit in forums like this talking about reparstions as if no one has ever received the for things that happened in the 18th century or to lie about how reparations are only asked for slavery and not anything that came after slavery such as the equivalent of 1.239 quintillion dollars the government invested on whites during the 20 CENTURY that blacks were excluded from. So before you give another automatic no perhaps you should do some research on the public policies the government mplemented over the course of the 20TH CENTURY so that if and when reparations happen you don't do something stupid because you think it's unfair that blacks got free money for something that happened 150 years ago.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You want reparations? Fine, then leave too, and leave us in peace because once you burn through those reparations and are still living here you'll start the whining all over again.

Accept reparations, and you automatically lose citizenship and the right to remain here and can never return. You must leave, and we repeal the 14th Amendment. Bye.

Thxs JB Stoner, but no one else who rec'd reparations went anywhere or lost their citizenship and black folks aren't either.

 

[IM2]

So, you want to punish and tax, eh? No matter what party, does that sound like a conservative position that would have been support by William F. Buckley. I don't think so. It sounds like an idea that would be popular with populists, not constrained to right and wrong or history, or the law, or the constitution. Don't punish. Anybody can ask for anything. Sometimes the correct answer is simply No, and then going on about normal business. Just say No, and leave them to argue with somebody else. Normal people have better thing to do and better discussions to have. Just Say No.

That is not the correct answer. Screw that. We have been taxed so that whites could prosper. So just say no ain't the answer. The government owes us a debt and that debt must be discussed. It is dishonest for whites to sit on their backsides today pretending they have not benefitted from things that excluded others and have no responsibility to make it right.

 

[White 6]

No it's not. Have you EVER looked at the eviedence supporting the case for reparations or is your opiinion just a reflexive answer based on ignorance? And I'm being kind by calling it that. We aren't talking about ineaquites only for for the 19th century but since you want to continue arguing like it is:

I am quite sure no one living in 1980 was alive when the U.S.government made the Fort Laramie treaty with the Sioux Nation or were participants in Custers violation of that treaty. Nor were they alive when President Grant decided it was OK to let settlers and people prospecting for gold tresspass into land promised to the Sioux thereby violating the treaty. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to take the land from the Sioux by military force. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to cut off supplies they promised the Sioux as condition for their surrender after whipping the U.S. Army at The Battle of Little Bighorn. But in 1980, the government of the United States decided reparations were due to the Sioux Nation.

On June 30, 1980, the US Supreme Court ruled that the government had illegally taken land in the Black Hills granted by the 1868 treaty, by unlawfully abrogating article two of the agreement during negotiations in 1876, while failing to achieve the signatures of two-thirds the adult male population required to do so. It upheld an award of $15.5 million for the market value of the land in 1877, along with 103 years worth of interest at 5 percent, for an additional $105 million.

Treaty of Fort Laramie (1868) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Sioux were awarded 105 million in 1980 for something that happened inthe 19th century.

You guys argue and made rude cimments and you have not looked at one bit of evidence. It is a position of both ignorance and arrogance.

For example:
Boston University Public Interest Law Journal
Volume 29, Issue 135
Winter 2019
BLACK REPARATIONS FOR TWENTIETH CENTURY FEDERAL
HOUSING DISCRIMINATION:
THE CONSTRUCTION OF WHITE WEALTH AND THE EFFECTS OF
DENIED BLACK HOMEOWNERSHIP

This paper examines the U.S. government’s instigation, participation,authorization, and perpetuation of federal housing discrimination against black Americans from the 1930s to the 1980s and the damage that such discrimination caused and continues to cause today. Delving into the U.S. government’s twentieth century federal housing practices, this paper discusses how the government effectively barred black-Americans from obtaining quality housing and from investing in housing as wealth, while simultaneously subsidizing and endorsing white homeownership, white suburbs, and white wealth.

Part I examines the U.S. government’s housing practices—from the New Deal until the 1968 Fair Housing Act and its 1988 Amendments—to reveal that although the New Deal’s national housing programs revolutionized homeownership and home equity in the United States, the U.S. government’s federal housing programs were racially discriminatory. Specifically, and quite shockingly, the U.S. government actively created and promulgated racist neighborhood rating systems that constructed

black neighborhoods and black property as unstable, volatile, hazardous, and not worthy of investment. Using these racist rating systems, the federal government endorsed racial covenants and invested federal money into the creation and accumulation of white wealth, the value of whiteness, white suburbia, and white homeownership. Meanwhile, the government denied blacks federal housing funding, fueling black stigma and barring black-Americans from the invaluable twentieth century opportunities of homeownership and home equity.

Understanding the U.S. government’s discriminatory housing practices, Part II discusses and quantifies the effects of the government’s housing discrimination on black-American households and communities. Finding that approximately 120 billion 1950s dollars--or more than 1.239 quintillion 2019 dollars—were invested to subsidize and create white-American wealth through homeownership...

Black Reparations for Twentieth Century Federal Housing Discrimination: The Construction of White Wealth and the Effects of Denied Black Homeownership

This year marks the 400th anniversary of the first documented arrival of Africans to the United States, which resulted in the enslavement of approximately 4 mil

deliverypdf.ssrn.com

Now you benefitted from this growing up at minimum. So it is dishonest for whites to sit in forums like this talking about reparstions as if no one has ever received the for things that happened in the 18th century or to lie about how reparations are only asked for slavery and not anything that came after slavery such as the equivalent of 1.239 quintillion dollars the government invested on whites during the 20 CENTURY that blacks were excluded from. So before you give another automatic no perhaps you should do some research on the public policies the government mplemented over the course of the 20TH CENTURY so that if and when reparations happen you don't do something stupid because you think it's unfair that blacks got free money for something that happened 150 years ago.

Nope. Haven't looked at and not willing. Haven't looked at Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868 back in the 19th Century either. Not going to consider it. I just say NO.

My advice to anybody looking for it, is to get a job and go make it, on their own.

 

[IM2]

Nope. Haven't looked at and not willing. Haven't looked at Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868 back in the 19th Century either. Not going to consider it. I just say NO.

My advice to anybody looking for it, is to get a job and go make it, on their own.

Then don't object to things you know nothinig about and don't get butthurt when your opinion is called ignorant and stupid. My advice top whites like you is that youdidn;t get what you have because you just got a job. You wanto to contonue reaping the benefits of what was taken from others., then try telling somebody else how to live. Please.