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Since they're charged criminally, it's about to be determined.I am saying the legality of what they might have done has not been determined. Until it is there is no crime. You are trying to say if Trump remained president it would not have been challenged in court? That would not have happened.
No there was no fraud. Those people acknowledged what they were doing. They were ready to vote for Trump if the results of the election changed. Completely legal.Since they're charged criminally, it's about to be determined.
I don't give a shit if it was going to be challenged in court or not. The scheme was fraudulent. The fact that it could be challenged in court doesn't change anything.
Poor skrewey.....so gullible.A state grand jury in Arizona on Wednesday indicted so-called "fake electors" who backed then-President Donald Trump in 2020, following a sprawling investigation into the alleged efforts to overturn Joe Biden’s win in the presidential election in the state.
Among those charged is Kelli Ward, who served as chair of the Arizona GOP during the 2020 election and the immediate aftermath. She tweeted on Jan. 6, 2021, after the attack on the U.S. Capitol: “Congress is adjourned. Send the elector choice back to the legislatures.” Ward was a consistent propagator of false claims that Arizona’s election results were rigged.
Others charged include: state legislators Anthony Kern and Jake Hoffman; Michael Ward, Kelli Ward’s husband; Tyler Bowyer, the RNC’s Arizona committeeman and the chief operating officer of the Trump-aligned Turning Point USA; Greg Safsten, the former Arizona GOP executive director; former U.S. Senate candidate Jim Lamon; Robert Montgomery, the former head of the Cochise County GOP; and Republican Party activists Samuel Moorhead, Nancy Cottle and Loraine Pellegrino.
Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, a Democrat, won her election to be the state’s chief prosecutor in November 2022, replacing Republican Mark Brnovich, a one-time ally of Trump who later earned the former president’s scorn for not substantiating Trump’s claims of election fraud in the state.
“We have to make sure that it’s clear to everyone it’s unacceptable to try to steal an election, to undermine and overthrow an election, and that’s what happened,” Mayes told MSNBC last year after her election victory. “We have to make sure what happened in 2020 never happens again.”
Trump’s 2020 'fake electors' charged with state crimes in Arizona
The indictments follow an investigation led by Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, a Democrat, into efforts to subvert the results of the 2020 election.www.nbcnews.com
Could one of the unindicted co conspirators be Donald Trump?
Looks like Rudy Giulliani is one on the co conspirators. It's just getting worse and worse, and it's only April boys and girls.
Holy shit. It is worse.
They claimed to have been the duly elected and appointed electors.No there was no fraud. Those people acknowledged what they were doing. They were ready to vote for Trump if the results of the election changed. Completely legal.
If the results of the election changed. All legal.They claimed to have been the duly elected and appointed electors.
Those certificates they signed were not "ready to vote", they were actual attempts to vote.
Read their fraudulent documents because you clearly haven't.
The results of the election couldn't be changed. It was past the safe harbor date.
Nope. The certificate doesn't say anything about "if the results of the election changed".If the results of the election changed. All legal.
You need to listen to the SCOTUS hearing from yesterday... they asked the DOJ prosecutor... what is fake elector?.... they had no answer... so judge Kavanaugh had to school them...They claimed to have been the duly elected and appointed electors.
Those certificates they signed were not "ready to vote", they were actual attempts to vote.
Read their fraudulent documents because you clearly haven't.
The results of the election couldn't be changed. It was past the safe harbor date.
Lie.You should learn to use a dictionary--they were ALTERNATE electors.
Oops, wrong. 11 of them are listed in this thread.There is no such thing as a fake elector..
Who asked?You need to listen to the SCOTUS hearing from yesterday... they asked the DOJ prosecutor... what is fake elector?.... they had no answer... so judge Kavanaugh had to school them...
Audits run by V&V who work exclusively with Dominion. Worthless.
Who were they trying to defraud and deceive?
What did they falsify?
Answer the damn question. How were illegal electors going to be counted in front of congress???
I do not give a fuck what you talk about.Those weren't the audits I was talking about, you loon.
They were 'hoping' that Pence would declare it in front of the entire congress and get away with it?
Just admit that your theories make zero sense, it's not that hard to do.
I do not give a fuck what you talk about.
No, you haven't. Others have tried, and all they do is dodge.
The whole thing is theater. There have been about 156 faithless electors in the history of the country. It happens. The DNC and their minions on the msm are just making hay out of it to deflect from their train wreck governance. They didn't think it was worth much of a mention when four electors in WA voted faithlessly for Colin Powell (3) and another fringe candidate (1) instead of Hillary Clinton in 2016.
4 Washington state electors decided not to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016. They were fined $1,000, went to court and lost.
The four electors, three of whom voted for Colin Powell, argued that a state infringes on their free speech rights and interferes with a federal electoral process. A Superior Court judge and the state Supreme Court have disagreed.www.seattletimes.com
4 Washington State Electors to Be Fined $1,000 for Vote
www.theepochtimes.com
That is what the framers put it in there for, to prevent the political persecution that is being used in the courts today. Don't take my word for it. Listen to the result when the SCOTUS rules. I'm sure you, with all your extensive legal knowledge will disagree with them, but there ya' go.That's the process to remove corrupt sitting Presidents from office. Criminal prosecution is how we deal corrupt people, even if they happened to have been President that one time.
