Not just automobiles

[Old Rocks]

So, what is so funny? Or have you simply lost whatever you have left of your mind?

The ferry saves money for the people running the ferry in two ways. It is far cheaper to operate than a diesel ferry, and had 80% savings in maintenance compared to a diesel ferry. And Siemens has orders for 55 more of these ferrys. Now I do suppose that Siemens is grinning all the way to the bank.

100% emissions free my butt.

Your butt is hardly emissions free, my friend. And what emissions does that ferry emit? It is all electric.

Where is the power source for that ALL ELECTRIC vehicle? Clean Coal, or Some windmill that doesn't even give it a charge to raise up the loading platform?

In Norway, 98 percent of the electricity production come from renewable energy sources. Hydropower is the source of most of the production.

Hydropower has been the basis for Norwegian industry and the development of a welfare society since we started utilizing the energy in rivers and waterfalls to produce energy in the late 1800s. Since then, the Norwegian hydropower has become an increasingly important part of the Norwegian society. The usage of electricity has increased in line with the modernisation and economic growth in Norway.
Renewable energy production in Norway

The small country of Denmark (pop. 5.6 million) is making a big commitment to renewables. In the early 1970s imported oil supplied 92 percent of Denmark’s energy. Today Denmark’s electric grid is over 40 percent renewably powered, and the country is aiming to reach 100 percent renewable electricity by 2035 and 100 percent renewable energy in all sectors by 2050. Denmark also plans to reduce its domestic greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent by 2020 relative to 1990 levels–without the use of carbon credits—ten years ahead of the proposed EU target.
Denmark, The Little Country With Big Renewable Energy Goals

Since those ferries operate mostly within Norway and to Denmark, there you have it. Most of their energy comes from renewables. And 40% of Denmarks energy comes from windmills.

So, what is so funny? Or have you simply lost whatever you have left of your mind?

The ferry saves money for the people running the ferry in two ways. It is far cheaper to operate than a diesel ferry, and had 80% savings in maintenance compared to a diesel ferry. And Siemens has orders for 55 more of these ferrys. Now I do suppose that Siemens is grinning all the way to the bank.

100% emissions free my butt.

Your butt is hardly emissions free, my friend. And what emissions does that ferry emit? It is all electric.

Where is the power source for that ALL ELECTRIC vehicle? Clean Coal, or Some windmill that doesn't even give it a charge to raise up the loading platform?

In Norway, 98 percent of the electricity production come from renewable energy sources. Hydropower is the source of most of the production.

Hydropower has been the basis for Norwegian industry and the development of a welfare society since we started utilizing the energy in rivers and waterfalls to produce energy in the late 1800s. Since then, the Norwegian hydropower has become an increasingly important part of the Norwegian society. The usage of electricity has increased in line with the modernisation and economic growth in Norway.
Renewable energy production in Norway

The small country of Denmark (pop. 5.6 million) is making a big commitment to renewables. In the early 1970s imported oil supplied 92 percent of Denmark’s energy. Today Denmark’s electric grid is over 40 percent renewably powered, and the country is aiming to reach 100 percent renewable electricity by 2035 and 100 percent renewable energy in all sectors by 2050. Denmark also plans to reduce its domestic greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent by 2020 relative to 1990 levels–without the use of carbon credits—ten years ahead of the proposed EU target.
Denmark, The Little Country With Big Renewable Energy Goals

Since those ferries operate mostly within Norway and to Denmark, there you have it. Most of their energy comes from renewables. And 40% of Denmarks energy comes from windmills.

I manage buildings, and in my area, the grid is still 1955 and no additional electrical generating sources are going up. But the gentrification of old row houses into multi floor mega apartment buildings are happening all over the city. During the hot days, with people charging cars, cell phones, computers, and running A/C's without new electrical generation, the rolling blackouts are going to impact, not only this city, but will move all over the US as the grids have all been tied together. You are a stupid woman, who thinks all the energy is right there in that little plug and all you have to do is plug in and all is good. When you don't have the power, you will bitch that it is the power companies fault, but it is the liberals who prevent reliable energy from NG and Coal that can keep up with the demand...

Natural gas is a good transition fuel, we don't need the coal plants. Both solar and wind are making up most of the new installed generation. Nobody is building new coal plants, and natural gas will soon be out of the market as the grid scale storage comes online.

Three Trends Driving Change in the Energy & Utilities Sector in 2018

Renewables, smart homes, AI and IoT will have a massive impact on how energy and utility companies address the market in 2018, says Colin Beaney, Global Industry Director for Energy & Utilities at IFS.

Renewables heat up – global capacity will double over the next 10 years

Every year we see a virtuous circle speeding up around renewables, and 2018 will be no exception. The more renewables are taken up, the smarter and more scalable the technology becomes, with lower construction, operating and maintenance costs. Crucially, the cheaper the energy produced becomes, too.

In 2009, it cost just under $300 to generate 1 MW of electricity using solar panels. In 2016, the cost was down to $100. All around the world, renewables companies are now able to offer cheaper energy alternatives. In September 2016 in Nevada, state energy provider NV Energy lost almost 6 percent of its customer base overnight as 15 of the top casinos and hotels in Las Vegas switched over to smaller renewable energy providers. Why? “The sharp decline in the cost of renewable energy” and “being able to control what your supply looks like,” said MGM Resorts, one of the main companies moving account.

BMI’s 2017 Global Renewables Outlook predicts the capacity of renewables will double between 2016 and 2026. A 2017 Financial Times report, "The Big Green Bang: how renewable energy became unstoppable," shows that renewables capacity globally rose by 9 percent in 2016, a 400 percent increase from 2000. Solar power increased by 30 percent worldwide in 2016 and, for the second year in a row, renewable energy made up more than half the world’s new power generation capacity.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

100% emissions free my butt.

Your butt is hardly emissions free, my friend. And what emissions does that ferry emit? It is all electric.

Where is the power source for that ALL ELECTRIC vehicle? Clean Coal, or Some windmill that doesn't even give it a charge to raise up the loading platform?

In Norway, 98 percent of the electricity production come from renewable energy sources. Hydropower is the source of most of the production.

Hydropower has been the basis for Norwegian industry and the development of a welfare society since we started utilizing the energy in rivers and waterfalls to produce energy in the late 1800s. Since then, the Norwegian hydropower has become an increasingly important part of the Norwegian society. The usage of electricity has increased in line with the modernisation and economic growth in Norway.
Renewable energy production in Norway

The small country of Denmark (pop. 5.6 million) is making a big commitment to renewables. In the early 1970s imported oil supplied 92 percent of Denmark’s energy. Today Denmark’s electric grid is over 40 percent renewably powered, and the country is aiming to reach 100 percent renewable electricity by 2035 and 100 percent renewable energy in all sectors by 2050. Denmark also plans to reduce its domestic greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent by 2020 relative to 1990 levels–without the use of carbon credits—ten years ahead of the proposed EU target.
Denmark, The Little Country With Big Renewable Energy Goals

Since those ferries operate mostly within Norway and to Denmark, there you have it. Most of their energy comes from renewables. And 40% of Denmarks energy comes from windmills.

100% emissions free my butt.

Your butt is hardly emissions free, my friend. And what emissions does that ferry emit? It is all electric.

Where is the power source for that ALL ELECTRIC vehicle? Clean Coal, or Some windmill that doesn't even give it a charge to raise up the loading platform?

In Norway, 98 percent of the electricity production come from renewable energy sources. Hydropower is the source of most of the production.

Hydropower has been the basis for Norwegian industry and the development of a welfare society since we started utilizing the energy in rivers and waterfalls to produce energy in the late 1800s. Since then, the Norwegian hydropower has become an increasingly important part of the Norwegian society. The usage of electricity has increased in line with the modernisation and economic growth in Norway.
Renewable energy production in Norway

The small country of Denmark (pop. 5.6 million) is making a big commitment to renewables. In the early 1970s imported oil supplied 92 percent of Denmark’s energy. Today Denmark’s electric grid is over 40 percent renewably powered, and the country is aiming to reach 100 percent renewable electricity by 2035 and 100 percent renewable energy in all sectors by 2050. Denmark also plans to reduce its domestic greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent by 2020 relative to 1990 levels–without the use of carbon credits—ten years ahead of the proposed EU target.
Denmark, The Little Country With Big Renewable Energy Goals

Since those ferries operate mostly within Norway and to Denmark, there you have it. Most of their energy comes from renewables. And 40% of Denmarks energy comes from windmills.

I manage buildings, and in my area, the grid is still 1955 and no additional electrical generating sources are going up. But the gentrification of old row houses into multi floor mega apartment buildings are happening all over the city. During the hot days, with people charging cars, cell phones, computers, and running A/C's without new electrical generation, the rolling blackouts are going to impact, not only this city, but will move all over the US as the grids have all been tied together. You are a stupid woman, who thinks all the energy is right there in that little plug and all you have to do is plug in and all is good. When you don't have the power, you will bitch that it is the power companies fault, but it is the liberals who prevent reliable energy from NG and Coal that can keep up with the demand...

Natural gas is a good transition fuel, we don't need the coal plants. Both solar and wind are making up most of the new installed generation. Nobody is building new coal plants, and natural gas will soon be out of the market as the grid scale storage comes online.

Three Trends Driving Change in the Energy & Utilities Sector in 2018

Renewables, smart homes, AI and IoT will have a massive impact on how energy and utility companies address the market in 2018, says Colin Beaney, Global Industry Director for Energy & Utilities at IFS.

Renewables heat up – global capacity will double over the next 10 years

Every year we see a virtuous circle speeding up around renewables, and 2018 will be no exception. The more renewables are taken up, the smarter and more scalable the technology becomes, with lower construction, operating and maintenance costs. Crucially, the cheaper the energy produced becomes, too.

In 2009, it cost just under $300 to generate 1 MW of electricity using solar panels. In 2016, the cost was down to $100. All around the world, renewables companies are now able to offer cheaper energy alternatives. In September 2016 in Nevada, state energy provider NV Energy lost almost 6 percent of its customer base overnight as 15 of the top casinos and hotels in Las Vegas switched over to smaller renewable energy providers. Why? “The sharp decline in the cost of renewable energy” and “being able to control what your supply looks like,” said MGM Resorts, one of the main companies moving account.

BMI’s 2017 Global Renewables Outlook predicts the capacity of renewables will double between 2016 and 2026. A 2017 Financial Times report, "The Big Green Bang: how renewable energy became unstoppable," shows that renewables capacity globally rose by 9 percent in 2016, a 400 percent increase from 2000. Solar power increased by 30 percent worldwide in 2016 and, for the second year in a row, renewable energy made up more than half the world’s new power generation capacity.

How much energy is produced at midnight of Dec 22nd?

 

[Old Rocks]

So your answer to real information is nonsense. Figured as much.

 

[Mr Natural]

In 50 years they’ll be laughing at us and our gasoline powered vehicles.

 

[AZGAL]

And where would the USA get all that hydro power ?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So your answer to real information is nonsense. Figured as much.

Just asked you a real question about your solar power, and why wont you answer it? How much energy is produced on the coldest shortest day of the year at midnight? ZERO.....While the coal and NG plants will still be producing....Fucking dumbass liberals, go to Spain, see how well renewables did for their economy...
Bankruptcy Looms For Spain's Green Energy Giant

 

[Old Rocks]

And where would the USA get all that hydro power ?

We are about maxed out on our hydro power. However, we have barely touched the potential of wind in the Dakota's, Nebraska, Wyoming, and Montana. Nor the potential for solar in the American Southwest.

 

[Old Rocks]

So your answer to real information is nonsense. Figured as much.

Just asked you a real question about your solar power, and why wont you answer it? How much energy is produced on the coldest shortest day of the year at midnight? ZERO.....While the coal and NG plants will still be producing....Fucking dumbass liberals, go to Spain, see how well renewables did for their economy...
Bankruptcy Looms For Spain's Green Energy Giant

Now you are about a stupid ass, now aren't you. Think you are so Goddamned smart. All you are is smart assed. Here is an example of solar power 24/7. And it will become much more common in the near future.

Tesla’s Kauai solar storage facility offers a glimpse of the company’s future

The whole facility generates 13 megawatts of energy, which adds up to around 19,438 MWh of electricity per year, and can store up to 52 megawatt hours of power. It does this with a cost to Kauai of 13.9 cents per kilowatt-hour, locked at that price for the duration of a 20-year contract. That’s under half the price the island currently pays for power generated from burning diesel fuel, which is its prevailing source of energy. The new solar storage facility can build up enough energy to power 4,500 Kauai homes through the night, which is a significant number of households given the population of the island was at 67,000 as of the last U.S. census.

“In this way we can have very robust, reliable solar electricity delivered back to the customer almost 24 hours a day,” Straubel explained in an interview. “This is a very different type of project. Usually you have solar panels directly coupled into the grid, or into your house, and they feed their electricity in whenever the sun is out and whenever a cloud comes over they stop.”


Not only does direct power generation without a storage element rely on good sun exposure, but it becomes a liability rather than an asset when deployed in large numbers across a relatively small community, or in high percentages of households in general. Solar panels adorn roofs across Kauai – you can hardly drive through any residential or commercial areas without seeing a handful of installations.

 

[skookerasbil]

Most people don't know that electric cars were very popular a little over 100 years ago.........we all know how that story goes!!

I see tons of conjecture going on in this thread.......pure speculation. Go look at sales numbers of EV's vs conventional vehicles..........laughable, the #'s are so lopsided.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Most people don't know that electric cars were very popular a little over 100 years ago.........we all know how that story goes!!

I see tons of conjecture going on in this thread.......pure speculation. Go look at sales numbers of EV's vs conventional vehicles..........laughable, the #'s are so lopsided.

what I see, is OldLunyRocks getting the EV and taking it on a trip to Californication. Goes about 250 miles and has to stop, because the charge is used up, now has to find a charging station which takes about 4 hours, I guess she eats at Denny's during this time. So now gets back in the car, and it starts raining, and gets dark, and very cold, so on come the wipers, heater and headlights, and now she goes about 175 miles because all that electricity that went to miles just got used up in comfort and safety. So once again, she has to stop, wait 4 hours for charging again, so stops at Jack in the Box. Charged again, she goes another 175 miles and finally gives up for the night, because her day has been eating more than driving. OldLunyRocks is wishing for the ICE so she could drive farther in less time than eating which OldLunyRocks just gained 20 pounds.

 

[skookerasbil]

EV's are ghey.......the market shows clearly that nobody wants these cars. I mean.....c'mon now. Who's kidding who? Ford sells more F150 trucks in 3 months than all EV sales COMBINED!!

 

[Old Rocks]

By 2025, the Ford F150 will be an EV.

 

[Old Rocks]

Most people don't know that electric cars were very popular a little over 100 years ago.........we all know how that story goes!!

I see tons of conjecture going on in this thread.......pure speculation. Go look at sales numbers of EV's vs conventional vehicles..........laughable, the #'s are so lopsided.

what I see, is OldLunyRocks getting the EV and taking it on a trip to Californication. Goes about 250 miles and has to stop, because the charge is used up, now has to find a charging station which takes about 4 hours, I guess she eats at Denny's during this time. So now gets back in the car, and it starts raining, and gets dark, and very cold, so on come the wipers, heater and headlights, and now she goes about 175 miles because all that electricity that went to miles just got used up in comfort and safety. So once again, she has to stop, wait 4 hours for charging again, so stops at Jack in the Box. Charged again, she goes another 175 miles and finally gives up for the night, because her day has been eating more than driving. OldLunyRocks is wishing for the ICE so she could drive farther in less time than eating which OldLunyRocks just gained 20 pounds.

My, what a fucking dummy Andar is.

And those are just the superchargers. Many hotels and supermarkets have their own chargers. Charging is not a problem today, and will not be a problem in the future, as the charging times will only go down as the ranges of the EV's increase.

 

[skookerasbil]

By 2025, the Ford F150 will be an EV.

Only if battery technology is significantly better......and still, truck guys like dependability because they are on a tight schedule. No time for charging shit.......zero chance. Shit better be able to go without charging for a few days of lol......truck guys will go for the conventional truck. Too.......and most important.......the price has to be right. If an EV truck is even a couple of thousand over the gas truck, not worth it for the truck guy to take chances on new technology. And what of reliability? Tesla automobiles , for example, are laughable in terms of reliability.

Truck guys are not like Prius people who buy that pos car to make a statement. Truck guys tend to be traditional guys not at all eager to take a leap because some snowflakes are telling them they'll be more environmentally friendly driving an EV truck.........they wont give a shit.

 

[Old Rocks]

An electric motor has it torque at the bottom of the curve. So putting a boat into and out of the water will be much easier with an EV pickup. As will towing any large load.



LOL

 

[skookerasbil]

An electric motor has it torque at the bottom of the curve. So putting a boat into and out of the water will be much easier with an EV pickup. As will towing any large load.



LOL

LOL........my little Focus ST has just short of 400 lb/ft of tourqe........could pull about 5 of those semi's!!

 

[skookerasbil]

lol.......for $25,000!!!

2014 Focus ST - Dyno - 280 Horsepower / 387 Torque

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just like a Tesla, when driving all electric , there are risks involved.

Yes, CLEARLY we should stick to perfectly safe, non-flammable gasoline.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

LOL........my little Focus ST has just short of 400 lb/ft of tourqe........could pull about 5 of those semi's!!

No it couldn't, without heavy mods, you weirdo. Damn, you will say ANYTHING, won't ya?:

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Go look at sales numbers of EV's vs conventional vehicles..........laughable, the #'s are so lopsided.

But that will change, as tech improves. Obviously. Look in your driveway, and notice it is not a model T or a horse and buggy. Then go think on that for a while.