November 11th....And A Question

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1. When it was learned that the Mayflower was landing in New England, and not at the
Hudson River, as specified in their patent, there was great dissension between the Separatists (Pilgrims) and the Strangers.

But it was agreed that the only way for the settlement to succeed was if everyone worked together, and that before they landed everyone had to sign a formal and binding agreement. Therefore they hammered out the Mayflower Compact, ....the very first basis for written law in the new world!

"In the name of God, Amen.
We, whose names are underwritten, the Loyal Subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord, King James, by the Grace of God, of England, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, e&. Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honour of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia;

do by these presents, solemnly and mutually in the Presence of God and one of another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil Body Politick, for our better Ordering and Preservation, and Furtherance of the Ends aforesaid; And by Virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the General good of the Colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.

In Witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the eleventh of November, in the Reign of our Sovereign Lord, King James of England, France and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini, 1620."

A study in 2002 found that almost 10% of the population of America can trace their ancestry back to the Mayflower.






2. On November 11, 1921, the unknown soldier brought back from France was interred inside a three-level marble tomb. The Unknown Soldier of WWI buried at Arlington under the following:
HERE RESTS IN HONORED GLORY AN AMERICAN SOLDIER KNOWN BUT TO GOD
The Tomb of the Unknowns is dedicated by US President Warren G. Harding at Arlington National Cemetery.






3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt selected as his first Supreme Court Justice, the anti-Catholic former Ku Klux Klan member, Hugo Black.
Justice Black was the force behind the Everson v. Board of Education decision, which included ‘The First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state.'

One wonders how FDR and Justice Black would have viewed items #1 and #2 above.
 
Prayer and civil religion were an integral part of FDR's administrations.

As far as Justice Black, I dunno
 
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Prayer and civil religion were an integral part of FDR's administrations.

As far as Justice Black, I dunno




Prayer?
Really?

Considering FDR's unblinking acceptance of the Ukrainian Terror Famine, the blood purges, the Katyn Forest massacre,....

...one might wonder to whom or what he was praying?
 
God has always been a part of our culture. until recent years. Then again, so were morality, decency, respect for your fellow man.
 
1. When it was learned that the Mayflower was landing in New England, and not at the
Hudson River, as specified in their patent, there was great dissension between the Separatists (Pilgrims) and the Strangers.

But it was agreed that the only way for the settlement to succeed was if everyone worked together, and that before they landed everyone had to sign a formal and binding agreement. Therefore they hammered out the Mayflower Compact, ....the very first basis for written law in the new world!

The Virginia colony had a written code of laws by 1611, if not earlier.
 
On different days, you'll hear the 'nuts telling us that the Mayflower Compact is some sort of proof that socialism doesn't work.

If the Mayflower Compact was as Christian as you're implying,

wouldn't the logical rightwing conclusion be (if such an oxymoronic concept could actually occur)

that Christianity doesn't work?
 
God has always been a part of our culture. until recent years. Then again, so were morality, decency, respect for your fellow man.

How far removed from Plymouth Rock were the holy men who burned the witches in Salem?

Or was that just an old school version of Christian, God given morality, decency and respect for your fellow man?
 
God has always been a part of our culture. until recent years. Then again, so were morality, decency, respect for your fellow man.

How far removed from Plymouth Rock were the holy men who burned the witches in Salem?

Or was that just an old school version of Christian, God given morality, decency and respect for your fellow man?

today we would worship a witch
 
God has always been a part of our culture. until recent years. Then again, so were morality, decency, respect for your fellow man.

How far removed from Plymouth Rock were the holy men who burned the witches in Salem?

Or was that just an old school version of Christian, God given morality, decency and respect for your fellow man?

today we would worship a witch

You don't have to tell me that. I can see PoliticalChic's rep count.
 
Elimination of God or belief in a superior being, has been the desired goal of Leftists, since leftism was born.

Condemnation of heinous acts in the name of God is a cottage industry for leftists (well...excluding Islam, since they scare leftists...only applies to Christians). While ignoring the many good actions and consequences of Christianity throughout it's history and conversely ignoring the overwhelming harm committed by unlimited government.

The Left rightly believes eliminating God will result in the destruction of the West and classical liberal thought and values. Without God, then America's founding documents and values evaporates. Nothing would make Leftists more happy...but like most things promoted by Leftism, the consequences will be most horrific.
 
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Anybody here want to live under the rules and customs of the first Pilgrims?

Anyone? Anyone?

Gee, why not?
 
God has always been a part of our culture. until recent years. Then again, so were morality, decency, respect for your fellow man.

How far removed from Plymouth Rock were the holy men who burned the witches in Salem?


They weren't burned, they were hung. One guy was 'pressed' to death.

I stand corrected and sincerely thank you for doing so. My excuse is that I still had the image of the witch burning on 'American Horror Story' in my mind from the other night.

A brilliantly conceived scene, I might add.
 
Prayer and civil religion were an integral part of FDR's administrations.

As far as Justice Black, I dunno




Prayer?
Really?

Considering FDR's unblinking acceptance of the Ukrainian Terror Famine, the blood purges, the Katyn Forest massacre,....

...one might wonder to whom or what he was praying?

I don't recall Jesus taking up arms against the wrongdoers of his world.
 
the Mayflower Compact, ....the very first basis for written law in the new world!

The
compact that used collectivism to survive.

Isn't it wild that people like PC would use the example of the Pilgrims, who were Christians persecuted by another variety of Christians,

to make the case that we are a Christian nation?

In name of the Christian God the Separatists were mercilessly tyrannized, terrorized, and murdered,

and PC wants this nation to be governed in the name of the Christian God.
 

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