NY Times Turns on Obama: ‘Administration Has Lost All Credibility’

[clevergirl]

Finally...

“They came first for the Tea Party, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a TEA Party member (in fact I hate TEA Party members) Then they came for my Guns, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Gun owner (in fact I think guns are stupid and dangerous). Then they came for the conservative 501c groups, and I didn't speak up because I was not a 501c group (and I hate conservative groups). Then they came for the Conservative Journalist's, and I didn't speak up because I was a Liberal Journalist. And then they came for me and by that time I was fucking ready to speak up”

 

[OriginalShroom]

I guess it's a good thing I don't listen to Rush.

 

[Sarah G]

Finally...

“They came first for the Tea Party, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a TEA Party member (in fact I hate TEA Party members) Then they came for my Guns, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Gun owner (in fact I think guns are stupid and dangerous). Then they came for the conservative 501c groups, and I didn't speak up because I was not a 501c group (and I hate conservative groups). Then they came for the Conservative Journalist's, and I didn't speak up because I was a Liberal Journalist. And then they came for me and by that time I was fucking ready to speak up”

STFU...

 

[The2ndAmendment]

It's weird. Why give us The Blaze article? Wouldn't the NYT original have more impact? Who that the OP is trying to impress would waste time on the article posted?

I corrected the link.

The administration has now lost all credibility on this issue. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive branch will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers.

It's interesting and the reason I pointed it out in my post. The Blaze didn't use that qualification and it's still in the subject line of the post. Word to the wise, citing The Blaze is usually an epic FAIL!

No, the original article said as the OP stated, they were obviously bullied and harassed by the White House Gestapo and release an edition of the statement.

The IRS probably accessed the editor's pornographic website habits from the NSA and threatened to leak them to Salon.com. In all seriousness, this fictional scenario has a high likelihood of being true.

 

[dilloduck]

It doesn't make a bit of difference with this administration. They just ignore the facts and move on. May as well quote from a comic book or Chris Matthews.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The administration has now lost all credibility on this issue.

On the issue of national security. He never had it, neither did George Bush.

The Patriot Act has to go.

 

[clevergirl]

Finally...

“They came first for the Tea Party, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a TEA Party member (in fact I hate TEA Party members) Then they came for my Guns, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Gun owner (in fact I think guns are stupid and dangerous). Then they came for the conservative 501c groups, and I didn't speak up because I was not a 501c group (and I hate conservative groups). Then they came for the Conservative Journalist's, and I didn't speak up because I was a Liberal Journalist. And then they came for me and by that time I was fucking ready to speak up”

STFU...

Hey bitch face...yeah you... You shut the fuck up


Isn't this fun

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Only Obama who has laid waste to our country can ruin the one ace in the hole he carried. When the NYT turns on a liberal they definitely are in trouble. But don't you liberals fret, the NYT knows no other teat.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/opinion/president-obamas-dragnet.html?pagewanted=all

The administration has now lost all credibility on this issue. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive branch will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers.

That isn't what they said at first. Apparently the liberals at the New York Times can't take the thought that they criticized Obama without hedging their bets.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Only Obama who has laid waste to our country can ruin the one ace in the hole he carried. When the NYT turns on a liberal they definitely are in trouble. But don't you liberals fret, the NYT knows no other teat.

NY Times Turns on Obama: ?Administration Has Lost All Credibility? | TheBlaze.com

The administration has now lost all credibility on this issue. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive branch will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers.

This must be the Repub talking point of the day. Somebody already started a thread just like this.

The other thread didn't have the waffle in it that the "wingnutty" editorial board threw in to not be accused of racism.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

It's weird. Why give us The Blaze article? Wouldn't the NYT original have more impact? Who that the OP is trying to impress would waste time on the article posted?

The original NYT article was edited to make Obama look better.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Finally...

“They came first for the Tea Party, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a TEA Party member (in fact I hate TEA Party members) Then they came for my Guns, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Gun owner (in fact I think guns are stupid and dangerous). Then they came for the conservative 501c groups, and I didn't speak up because I was not a 501c group (and I hate conservative groups). Then they came for the Conservative Journalist's, and I didn't speak up because I was a Liberal Journalist. And then they came for me and by that time I was fucking ready to speak up”

STFU...

No u!

 

[TemplarKormac]

Every one uses talking points..

Right now the main talking points being used are by the left.. Especially this one..

The only group denied by the IRS was a Liberal group.

Even Baghdad Jim McDermott is using it.

At least it's a fact. The article cited was merely an opinion and from a source normally discounted by the people hailing it!

This is intriguing. All of a sudden, when the NYT speaks out against Obama, they become "a source normally discounted by the people hailing it" namely people such as you! Don't try to hide from it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yeah, it was an opinion piece in the NY times saying the Patriot Act, enacted after 9-11 needs to be sharply curtailed or repealed. They are correct on this BTW. Nowhere did they say the administration has lost all credibility. That was The Blaze saying that.

No. And liberals like you need to learn reading comprehension skills badly.

"Within hours of the disclosure that the federal authorities routinely collect data on phone calls Americans make, regardless of whether they have any bearing on a counterterrorism investigation, the Obama administration issued the same platitude it has offered every time President Obama has been caught overreaching in the use of his powers: Terrorists are a real menace and you should just trust us to deal with them because we have internal mechanisms (that we are not going to tell you about) to make sure we do not violate your rights.

Those reassurances have never been persuasive — whether on secret warrants to scoop up a news agency’s phone records or secret orders to kill an American suspected of terrorism — especially coming from a president who once promised transparency and accountability. The administration has now lost all credibility. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the 9/11 attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers."

Note: The phrase "on this issue" was added later in an obvious attempt to backtrack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/op...pagewanted=all

 

[Lakhota]

The New York Times is just pretending to be outraged. They've obviously known this was going on all along.

 

[clevergirl]

Finally...

“They came first for the Tea Party, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a TEA Party member (in fact I hate TEA Party members) Then they came for my Guns, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Gun owner (in fact I think guns are stupid and dangerous). Then they came for the conservative 501c groups, and I didn't speak up because I was not a 501c group (and I hate conservative groups). Then they came for the Conservative Journalist's, and I didn't speak up because I was a Liberal Journalist. And then they came for me and by that time I was fucking ready to speak up”

STFU...

No u!

I know...like right?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This must be the Repub talking point of the day. Somebody already started a thread just like this.

Multiple threads on the same subject run rampant on this board, regardless of which side of the aisle the article rains on.

Are you saying that when there are multiple threads on the same subject started by the Left, that they are all responding to the DNC fax of the day?

Silly nutter. False equivalency.

Dummy nothing get's by you but the facts.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

The New York Times is just pretending to be outraged. They've obviously known this was going on all along.

Or maybe they New York Times was being threatened by the IRS, or FBI, or... yeah you get it.

The elections might have even been fraudulent at this point.

 

[Annie]

The New York Times is just pretending to be outraged. They've obviously known this was going on all along.

Right you are. Same as their false outrage over AP and Rosen abuses. Truth is, they aren't a news source, they are the bullhorn of the party they represent.

Even with an 'outrage' piece, they had to massage it, for fear the low information folks might believe them:

NYTimes modifies editorial to make it less damning of Obama | The Daily Caller

New York Times quietly changes published editorial to make it less damning of Obama
8:52 PM 06/06/2013

The New York Times edited its damning editorial condemning the Obama administration for collecting phone call data from Americans to make it less stinging shortly after the editorial was published online Thursday afternoon.

The editorial originally declared that the Obama “administration has lost all credibility” as a result of the recently revealed news that the National Security Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation have been secretly collecting call data from American users of Verizon under the authority of the Patriot Act.

But hours later the stinging sentence had been modified to read the Obama “administration has now lost all credibility on this issue.” [Emphasis added]

According to NewsDiffs.com, a website which tracks changes to online articles, at 3:34 p.m. ET the editorial damned the Obama administration generally and by 7:09 p.m. ET it had been edited to damn the Obama administration more narrowly over its collection of call data.

NewsDiffs also showed that several other modifications had been made to the editorial, but none as significant as its change to the originally broad condemnation of the Obama administration.

The new version of the article contains no indication that it has been changed.

Here's the problem with low information voters or people, as it were. They really 'aren't that into news.' However they have great instincts regarding what may effect them. Thus the IRS scandal and this one, delving into their privacy, are likely to resonate.

 

[Sallow]

Only Obama who has laid waste to our country can ruin the one ace in the hole he carried. When the NYT turns on a liberal they definitely are in trouble. But don't you liberals fret, the NYT knows no other teat.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/opinion/president-obamas-dragnet.html?pagewanted=all

The administration has now lost all credibility on this issue. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive branch will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers.

It's not really Obama they turned on.

But that's not something you care about.

It's that they are pointing out the Patriot Act is one craptacular piece of legislation.

And they've been saying that for a very very very long time.

 

[Sallow]

The New York Times is just pretending to be outraged. They've obviously known this was going on all along.

Right you are. Same as their false outrage over AP and Rosen abuses. Truth is, they aren't a news source, they are the bullhorn of the party they represent.

Even with an 'outrage' piece, they had to massage it, for fear the low information folks might believe them:

NYTimes modifies editorial to make it less damning of Obama | The Daily Caller

New York Times quietly changes published editorial to make it less damning of Obama
8:52 PM 06/06/2013

The New York Times edited its damning editorial condemning the Obama administration for collecting phone call data from Americans to make it less stinging shortly after the editorial was published online Thursday afternoon.

The editorial originally declared that the Obama “administration has lost all credibility” as a result of the recently revealed news that the National Security Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation have been secretly collecting call data from American users of Verizon under the authority of the Patriot Act.

But hours later the stinging sentence had been modified to read the Obama “administration has now lost all credibility on this issue.” [Emphasis added]

According to NewsDiffs.com, a website which tracks changes to online articles, at 3:34 p.m. ET the editorial damned the Obama administration generally and by 7:09 p.m. ET it had been edited to damn the Obama administration more narrowly over its collection of call data.

NewsDiffs also showed that several other modifications had been made to the editorial, but none as significant as its change to the originally broad condemnation of the Obama administration.

The new version of the article contains no indication that it has been changed.

Here's the problem with low information voters or people, as it were. They really 'aren't that into news.' However they have great instincts regarding what may effect them. Thus the IRS scandal and this one, delving into their privacy, are likely to resonate.

The Daily Caller?

Really?

The outfit that paid a Prostitute to accuse Senator Menendez of Pedophilia?

That Daily Caller?