Obama bypasses Congress on DREAM Act, stops deporting young illegals

[Pheonixops]

Yes.

Thank you. Is there anything illegal about him issuing such an executive order? Is issuing an Executive Order "unConstitutional"?

Just forget what's right and wrong....got it.

LOL, How is asking a couple of questions forgetting about "what's right and wrong"?

 

[The T]

Do you think the Native Americans wanted to put up a big fence around the shores of Plymouth?

Had they known what was coming? Hell yes!!

We agree again. Imagine that? i guess now there will be demands to give it all back?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Obama didn't "bypass" congress. Congress (Rs) Do Nothing. President Obama waited more than three years for congress to do their job. They did not and have even SAID REPEATEDLY that they would not do their job he really had no choice.

Hell, if it were up to the Rs, bin laden would still be watching porn and ordering hits on US citizens.

Its not "impeachable" and, in FACT, ReaganBushBush all three passed similar legislation.

This will force mitt to finally take a real stand. I'd bet that someone is telling him what he thinks right now.

If you want to whine, feel sorry for poor Marco Rubio. He had planned to announce the very same thing in order to get Latinos to vote for the worthless etch a sketch.

we have a divided Congress......the House stops the Senate.....and the Senate stops the House....this is nothing new in history....

Obama....instead of providing LEADERSHIP....runs off and makes his own rules......

how can making an end run around the Constitution be good for America....?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Dingbat Alan West doesn't know whether or not these people, who have been given work permits for only two years, can vote.

WHO votes for these idiots?

 

[ConservaDerrps]

I admire the fuck out of Jarhead for being intellectually honest enough to recognize when dogma has reached its logical end. We may disagree on a lot of shit Jarhead, by my respect for you (as worthless as that is to you I'm sure), just went up a billion percent.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

That's the same Alan West who has refused to do his job. Granted he hasn't been refusing for the more than three years like the rest of them but still -

He's right there with the rest of them, obstructing, doing nothing, working for other countries but not their own.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Do you think the Native Americans wanted to put up a big fence around the shores of Plymouth?

We'll have to ask Elizabetth Warren...

She'll know...

She'll laugh all the way to the Senate seat, bitch. So I'm cool with that.

Hey, did house ever find out the cause of that mysterious illness?

 

[mudwhistle]

Thank you. Is there anything illegal about him issuing such an executive order? Is issuing an Executive Order "unConstitutional"?

Obama favors foreign workers over Americans. It's just that simple. He could give a shit about the 8.2% unemployment figures in the USA. I'll remember that on my way to the polls.

I thought it was the "job creators" who favor foreign workers. After all, the only places they are creating jobs is in China, India, Mexico, and whatever 3rd world shithole they can get willing wage slaves.

If repugs are serious about illegals, they should quit hiring them and hire US citizens instead.

Maybe if the Democrats would stop hiring illegals we could solve the problem overnight then.

 

[Pheonixops]

Yes.

Thank you. Is there anything illegal about him issuing such an executive order? Is issuing an Executive Order "unConstitutional"?

Obama favors foreign workers over Americans. It's just that simple. He could give a shit about the 8.2% unemployment figures in the USA. I'll remember that on my way to the polls.

Where did he state that he allegedly "favors foreign workers over American workers"? I'd think that the "favorability" issue would be left up to the American employers who choose to outsource jobs overseas as well as who they choose to employ here in America.

Was this the "deal breaker" for you? Were you going to vote for him before this happened?

 

[Pheonixops]

Estimates are that 800,000 are immediately added to the workforce.

Last month's addition of 69,000 jobs doesn't look so good today does it?

What were those 800,000 doing before today?

 

[mudwhistle]

That's the same Alan West who has refused to do his job. Granted he hasn't been refusing for the more than three years like the rest of them but still -

He's right there with the rest of them, obstructing, doing nothing, working for other countries but not their own.

Settle down little-neddy.

You're starting to lose your mind.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Obama didn't "bypass" congress. Congress (Rs) Do Nothing. President Obama waited more than three years for congress to do their job. They did not and have even SAID REPEATEDLY that they would not do their job he really had no choice.

Hell, if it were up to the Rs, bin laden would still be watching porn and ordering hits on US citizens.

Its not "impeachable" and, in FACT, ReaganBushBush all three passed similar legislation.

This will force mitt to finally take a real stand. I'd bet that someone is telling him what he thinks right now.

If you want to whine, feel sorry for poor Marco Rubio. He had planned to announce the very same thing in order to get Latinos to vote for the worthless etch a sketch.

we have a divided Congress......the House stops the Senate.....and the Senate stops the House....this is nothing new in history....

Obama....instead of providing LEADERSHIP....runs off and makes his own rules......

how can making an end run around the Constitution be good for America....?

I got so damn sick of watching him trying to work WITH congress when, in point of fact, the day after he was sworn in, DeMint stood up in congress and said none of them would work with him.

McCain has said the same, Boehner just said it about two weeks ago - just before he left on yet another vacation.

I'm glad to see Obama return the favor to the Do Nothings.

But, all the hysteria aside, all this amounts to is extending work permits for two years.

BFD

 

[Ernie S.]

Obama didn't "bypass" congress. Congress (Rs) Do Nothing. President Obama waited more than three years for congress to do their job. They did not and have even SAID REPEATEDLY that they would not do their job he really had no choice.

Hell, if it were up to the Rs, bin laden would still be watching porn and ordering hits on US citizens.

Its not "impeachable" and, in FACT, ReaganBushBush all three passed similar legislation.

This will force mitt to finally take a real stand. I'd bet that someone is telling him what he thinks right now.

If you want to whine, feel sorry for poor Marco Rubio. He had planned to announce the very same thing in order to get Latinos to vote for the worthless etch a sketch.

Are you really this stupid? Passed legislation means they signed bills that were approved by the House and Senate. The fact that immigration bills have been enacted in the past, does not mean that the President, no, not even barack obama, can enact law without Congress.

 

[Zxereus]

Obozo announced today that he (not congress) is passing the DREAM Act and giving amnesty to millions of young illegals in america. He's doing this by saying he will simply refuse to enforce laws passed by congress that make it a crime to be in america illegally.!!!

The constitution says the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed".

Reagan granted amnesty to millions of illegals in 1986 and that was a huge blunder but at least he did it thru congress.

As I understand it, his Executive Order does not grant citizenship or an easier road to it. It simply says that these illegals that have been here for a long time with their parents will not be sent home. There's a difference between that and automatic citizenship.

Then what exactly is it ? If there's no penalty, then what's to stop this practice of sneaking kids in ?
It's like saying it's shoplifting if you walk out of the store with that pair of pants, but if you do we'll do nothing about it.

 

[The T]

Do you think the Native Americans wanted to put up a big fence around the shores of Plymouth?

We'll have to ask Elizabetth Warren...

She'll know...

The All knowing Omnipotnet FAUXAHONTAS.

 

[ConservaDerrps]

Obozo announced today that he (not congress) is passing the DREAM Act and giving amnesty to millions of young illegals in america. He's doing this by saying he will simply refuse to enforce laws passed by congress that make it a crime to be in america illegally.!!!

The constitution says the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed".

Reagan granted amnesty to millions of illegals in 1986 and that was a huge blunder but at least he did it thru congress.

As I understand it, his Executive Order does not grant citizenship or an easier road to it. It simply says that these illegals that have been here for a long time with their parents will not be sent home. There's a difference between that and automatic citizenship.

Then what exactly is it ? If there's no penalty, then what's to stop this practice of sneaking kids in ?
It's like saying it's shoplifting if you walk out of the store with that pair of pants, but if you do we'll do nothing about it.

Except pants aren't people, my friend.

 

[Jarhead]

those on the right that are outraged by this are only outraged becuase they know it gave Obama a political edge.

My first reaction was outrage for that exact reason...and when I calmed down I realized there is nothing wrong with this decision.

you're wrong dumbass, we were outraged when McCain and Kennedy tried it too..

why wont you answer the obvious question.....why do you deem a child who is forced to come here by his parents as one committing a crime?

Why does this outrage you?

How can you be so heartless? The kid did nothing wrong...his parents did....and out of the blue, after doing everything right such as completeing high school and looking to move ahead...you want to send him to hell?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Zxereus]

Hey Latino's, how do you like the president that apparently could have done this all along. Are you going to ask him why he's using you as an election year ploy ?
How does it feel to be used like a pawn ?

 

[WillowTree]

Obama didn't "bypass" congress. Congress (Rs) Do Nothing. President Obama waited more than three years for congress to do their job. They did not and have even SAID REPEATEDLY that they would not do their job he really had no choice.

Hell, if it were up to the Rs, bin laden would still be watching porn and ordering hits on US citizens.

Its not "impeachable" and, in FACT, ReaganBushBush all three passed similar legislation.

This will force mitt to finally take a real stand. I'd bet that someone is telling him what he thinks right now.

If you want to whine, feel sorry for poor Marco Rubio. He had planned to announce the very same thing in order to get Latinos to vote for the worthless etch a sketch.

we have a divided Congress......the House stops the Senate.....and the Senate stops the House....this is nothing new in history....

Obama....instead of providing LEADERSHIP....runs off and makes his own rules......

how can making an end run around the Constitution be good for America....?

I got so damn sick of watching him trying to work WITH congress when, in point of fact, the day after he was sworn in, DeMint stood up in congress and said none of them would work with him.

McCain has said the same, Boehner just said it about two weeks ago - just before he left on yet another vacation.

I'm glad to see Obama return the favor to the Do Nothings.

But, all the hysteria aside, all this amounts to is extending work permits for two years.

BFD

so you won't bitch when the Republicans gain the WH and do it back to you now will you you little pissant.

 

[Ernie S.]

Whether you agree with the executive order or not, Obama has shown some real leadership with this move. He has said many times that he will get things done whether it is through congress or not. Well he did....like it or not.

As for the order itself....if we were in a booming economy, it would be a no brainer...and likely all would agree. However, with so many Amereicans out of work, I can understand the anger by some.

In my opinion.....of the 800K or so, likely none of them would have been deported anyway.....but now many of them will be adding to the tax revenue.

So Obama gets a thumbs up from this conservative.

Thumbs up for rewarding a crime?

Curious....if guy robs a bank and he has his kid in the back seat of the getaway car....would you call the kid a criminal?

Point well taken, but the kid doesn't get to keep the money, thus get rewarded, for his father's crime, either, does he?