Occupy Wall Street: The Movement Grows

OWS is a union movement. Unions are Obama's only remaining constituency. (Other than the doped out hippy contingent.)

LOL the weird thing is that you actually believe that crap. I think, anyway. :tongue:

OWS isn't a union movement. Unions are not Obama's only remaining constituency; polls put his support in the upper 40s, and union membership is far less than that. Obama is, as you said, beholden to the big banks and very much in their pocket. And that means that OWS is protesting against Obama.

If you think that Obama would spark a movement protesting against him as a way to get re-elected, you believe he is either too stupid to breathe, or a Machiavellian genius of cosmic proportions. :razz:

Obama's polls are in THE LOW 40's and I'm in the 99% and you all DON'T SPEAK for me or I'm sure the MAJORITY of the people in this country. So don't assume you do.
 
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Obama's polls are in THE LOW 40's

Even if that's true, it still includes a lot more people than the combined membership of every union in the country.

and I'm in the 99% and you all DON'T SPEAK for me or I'm sure the MAJORITY of the people in this country. So don't assume you do.

Perhaps we don't speak for your opinion. We certainly do, however, speak for your interests. Part of the effort is in getting you to see where your interest lie.
 
Obama's polls are in THE LOW 40's

Even if that's true, it still includes a lot more people than the combined membership of every union in the country.

and I'm in the 99% and you all DON'T SPEAK for me or I'm sure the MAJORITY of the people in this country. So don't assume you do.

Perhaps we don't speak for your opinion. We certainly do, however, speak for your interests. Part of the effort is in getting you to see where your interest lie.
Woah! Hold it right there, cowboy! You, and OWS, do NOT speak for my interests at all.

I am a proponent of the Constitution of the United States of America because THAT is in my best interests. It is also in the best interests of my loved ones, my friends, my neighbors, my colleagues, etc.
 
Obama's polls are in THE LOW 40's

Even if that's true, it still includes a lot more people than the combined membership of every union in the country.

and I'm in the 99% and you all DON'T SPEAK for me or I'm sure the MAJORITY of the people in this country. So don't assume you do.

Perhaps we don't speak for your opinion. We certainly do, however, speak for your interests. Part of the effort is in getting you to see where your interest lie.

Oh really..Like you have the fucking nerve to think I don't know what MY INTEREST should be.

I don't care for Socialist-commie or fascist. You won't EVER speak for me or I'm sure for THE majority OR you piddle little gatherings would be HUGE by now..fool
 
Woah! Hold it right there, cowboy! You, and OWS, do NOT speak for my interests at all.

I am a proponent of the Constitution of the United States of America because THAT is in my best interests. It is also in the best interests of my loved ones, my friends, my neighbors, my colleagues, etc.

OWS is also in favor of the Constitution. Any claim to the contrary is a paranoid delusion.
 
Woah! Hold it right there, cowboy! You, and OWS, do NOT speak for my interests at all.

I am a proponent of the Constitution of the United States of America because THAT is in my best interests. It is also in the best interests of my loved ones, my friends, my neighbors, my colleagues, etc.

OWS is also in favor of the Constitution. Any claim to the contrary is a paranoid delusion.

LIAR.
Progressives see no problem with lying if it can FURTHER their agenda.
 
LIAR.
Progressives see no problem with lying if it can FURTHER their agenda.

Progressive DO see a problem with overthrowing the Constitution, however. If you think otherwise, the burden of proof is on you to prove it.
 
Woah! Hold it right there, cowboy! You, and OWS, do NOT speak for my interests at all.

I am a proponent of the Constitution of the United States of America because THAT is in my best interests. It is also in the best interests of my loved ones, my friends, my neighbors, my colleagues, etc.

OWS is also in favor of the Constitution. Any claim to the contrary is a paranoid delusion.

LIAR.
Progressives see no problem with lying if it can FURTHER their agenda.

says the conservative sheeple. ZZZzzz
 
Woah! Hold it right there, cowboy! You, and OWS, do NOT speak for my interests at all.

I am a proponent of the Constitution of the United States of America because THAT is in my best interests. It is also in the best interests of my loved ones, my friends, my neighbors, my colleagues, etc.

OWS is also in favor of the Constitution. Any claim to the contrary is a paranoid delusion.
Now that is utter bullshit. The latest manifesto promotes direct democracy, completely contrary to our Constitution and you have endorsed that latest manifesto as one that represents the OWS.

Or is that one ready for an "admin note", too?
 
Now that is utter bullshit. The latest manifesto promotes direct democracy, completely contrary to our Constitution and you have endorsed that latest manifesto as one that represents the OWS.

"Direct democracy" does not violate the Constitution. (For example, it exists here in California in the initiative system.) "Replacing the system of representative democracy the Constitution provides for with a nationwide system of direct democracy on the federal level" does. The latter is not anything advocated by OWS.
 
Now that is utter bullshit. The latest manifesto promotes direct democracy, completely contrary to our Constitution and you have endorsed that latest manifesto as one that represents the OWS.

"Direct democracy" does not violate the Constitution.

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Of course it does! :lol:

Our form of government as outlined in the Constitution is a constitutional republic. Not a direct democracy. And, it is very specific on that.

(For example, it exists here in California in the initiative system.) "Replacing the system of representative democracy the Constitution provides for with a nationwide system of direct democracy on the federal level" does. The latter is not anything advocated by OWS.
The latest manifesto, one you claim represents the OWS, specifically promotes direct democracy. A direct democracy for the USA is unconstitutional.

Facts are a bitch, but spin away.
 
The latest manifesto, one you claim represents the OWS, specifically promotes direct democracy. A direct democracy for the USA is unconstitutional.

It does not promote "a direct democracy for the USA." Actually, what it promotes is direct democracy for the protest movement.

That is no more against the Constitution than the direct democracy of the petition or initiative process which exists in many states, including mine.
 
People need to get a clue...and I do believe the MAJORITY of the people already know it.

But this MOVEMENT DOES NOT have your BEST INTEREST AT HEART.

and I object to them using 99%ers...they are 1/2%ers in my opinion.
 
The latest manifesto, one you claim represents the OWS, specifically promotes direct democracy. A direct democracy for the USA is unconstitutional.

It does not promote "a direct democracy for the USA." Actually, what it promotes is direct democracy for the protest movement.

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Then you better get back to the drawing board on the manifesto, because that is certainly not what it says. Give it an admin note, too (let Bill Ayers in on that admin note update while you're at it - it would be a shame to let him fall out of the loop at this point).
 
Then you better get back to the drawing board on the manifesto, because that is certainly not what it says.

"To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal."

That is EXACTLY what it is saying. It is most emphatically NOT a call to replace the U.S. Constitution with a national government based on direct democracy.

Seems to me that you saw those two words, jumped to a false conclusion, and, as it were, had a cow.
 
Then you better get back to the drawing board on the manifesto, because that is certainly not what it says.

"To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal."

That is EXACTLY what it is saying. It is most emphatically NOT a call to replace the U.S. Constitution with a national government based on direct democracy.

Seems to me that you saw those two words, jumped to a false conclusion, and, as it were, had a cow.
Yes, I have a cow when folks promote unconstitutional ideals, as does the OWS. It's just the way I roll.
 
Then you better get back to the drawing board on the manifesto, because that is certainly not what it says.

"To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal."

That is EXACTLY what it is saying. It is most emphatically NOT a call to replace the U.S. Constitution with a national government based on direct democracy.

Seems to me that you saw those two words, jumped to a false conclusion, and, as it were, had a cow.

LOL, how clever...In the spirit of Direct Democracy... in other words.....MOBS RULES

so transparent.
 
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Look at all the good Progressives have done in East Germany, Cambodia and North Korea, that's all they want to do here! Make the USA the last Progressive Paradise!
 

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