Odessa shooter had previous contact with police, the FBI knew him, he failed gun background check

[2aguy]

NRA, Radio Hosts, Some Fox people for the deplorables.....Everything else for the Prog socialist communists. You are cornering people.

No, buddy, those things exist because people are making money on keeping you stupid.

Take the NRA (Please). The NRA used to support common sense gun laws up until the 1970's. Then the radicals took over, and the gun industry realized they needed fear to sell weapons. Hunting was going out of fashion, and they had to sell those guns to someone.

So you have a situation where we have 300 million guns, but half of them are in the hands of 3% of the population.

No moron......the fear came from hell hole cities around the country as the "Great Society" destroyed Black families in democrat controlled voting districts......crime was through the roof, you moron...which is one of the reasons the Movie Dirty Harry was made, it was a reaction to the violent crime epidemic that ran through the 1990s.......remember Miami, the drug gang shootouts....?

Wrong again..

NBC Poll: Does Gun Ownership Increase Or Decrease Safety? Anti-Gun Activists Won't Like The Results.

nearly 6 in 10 Americans believe that getting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens increases safety.

"In the poll, 58 percent agree with the statement that gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves," NBC News reports. "By contrast, 38 percent say that gun ownership reduces safety by giving too many people access to firearms, increasing the chances for accidental misuse."

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NBC notes that the overall result is a "reversal" of the findings of a 1999 survey that found that 52 percent of respondents believed gun ownership reduced safety. The more positive perspective on gun ownership is partly reflected in gun ownership trends: "47 percent of American adults say they have a firearm in the household, which is up from 44 percent in 1999."


You have so little knowledge of so many things, yet you think you know everything....

 

[2aguy]

Last time I heard it was illegal for a prohibited person to even attempt a purchase.

Here in Nevada we arrest them and prosecute.

Why don't they do that everywhere?

Because the NRA has watered down the gun laws to the point where they are meaningless...

Having a law on the books is fine. Actually enforcing it is the problem.

What gun laws did they water down you doofus? If you use a gun to commit a crime you can already be arrested and sent to prison...then, the democrat judge with the democrat prosecutor will let you out on bail, and then bargain away the gun charge so you don't get the 10 years you should be getting just for the gun.....and then they let the known, repeat gun offender out onto the streets...where he goes on to get another illegal gun and kills someone,

Then, the democrats tell us that normal people have to give up their guns...

You are insane.

 

[2aguy]

The police knew about him, I heard a report that where he lived he used a gun to fire shots into the air, the police were called, and they did nothing......the FBI knew about him because he had called them quite a few times over the years, and he failed a background check to buy a gun...they don't know where he actually got the gun he had....his employer was afraid of him.....

Information still coming in..

So guns are too easy for the wrong people to get. We've already established that.

When you are willing to steal things and break the law, laws won't stop you....you doofus.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You are insane.

No. He's a troll.

 

[miketx]

Since he failed the requisite background checks back in 2014, they think he bought in a private sale, they're looking for the possible seller...

Miketx would be a great place to start.

I don't sell guns to anyone, troll pos, for just this reason.

 

[miketx]

Anyone capable of honesty should realize our violent crime epidemic has its root cause located squarely on the backs of politicians.

 

[miketx]

The police knew about him, I heard a report that where he lived he used a gun to fire shots into the air, the police were called, and they did nothing......the FBI knew about him because he had called them quite a few times over the years, and he failed a background check to buy a gun...they don't know where he actually got the gun he had....his employer was afraid of him.....

Information still coming in..

So guns are too easy for the wrong people to get. We've already established that.

What you haven't established is why you let them get away with it.

 

[miketx]

Last time I heard it was illegal for a prohibited person to even attempt a purchase.

Here in Nevada we arrest them and prosecute.

Why don't they do that everywhere?

Because the NRA has watered down the gun laws to the point where they are meaningless...

Having a law on the books is fine. Actually enforcing it is the problem.

NRA does not enforce laws, liar, the courts do and THERE is your problem. You liars never wanna talk about that, do you?

 

[Lewdog]

Yeah but if it is a law to do background checks for private gun sales... then maybe the person who SOLD the gun would not have done so and he would not have gotten the gun.

 

[hjmick]

Since he failed the requisite background checks back in 2014, they think he bought in a private sale, they're looking for the possible seller...

Miketx would be a great place to start.

I don't sell guns to anyone, troll pos, for just this reason.

Every gun I have, if I had any, are guns I want. Why would I sell them?

 

[miketx]

Yeah but if it is a law to do background checks for private gun sales... then maybe the person who SOLD the gun would not have done so and he would not have gotten the gun.

Who sold him the gun? Where did he get it? All you are doing is spewing theories.

 

[miketx]

Since he failed the requisite background checks back in 2014, they think he bought in a private sale, they're looking for the possible seller...

Miketx would be a great place to start.

I don't sell guns to anyone, troll pos, for just this reason.

Every gun I have, if I had any, are guns I want. Why would I sell them?

I have traded guns to gun stores that I realized I really didn't have much use for or thought I needed it at the time I bought them. I lose money on them but you'd be insane if you sell one privately in today's rabid commie infested climate.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Since he failed the requisite background checks back in 2014, they think he bought in a private sale, they're looking for the possible seller...

Miketx would be a great place to start.

I don't sell guns to anyone, troll pos, for just this reason.

Every gun I have, if I had any, are guns I want. Why would I sell them?

Before The Great Boating Accident, I traded one and gave two as graduation gifts.
Guns are forever.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah but if it is a law to do background checks for private gun sales... then maybe the person who SOLD the gun would not have done so and he would not have gotten the gun.

Sorry....criminals are not getting their guns from private sales by strangers...they are getting their guns from straw buyers they either know or control.....baby mommas, sisters, mothers, grandmothers.....gang members only deal with criminals they know because they are afraid of police stings.

We already have laws on the books that will arrest straw buyers providing guns to criminals...why aren't they enforced...because when the baby momma is on the stand stating her baby daddy, gang banger boyfriend threatened to beat her if she didn't get him the gun, juries tend not to convict and prosecutors don't go forward with those cases.....

We already capture straw buyers using current law enforcement techniques....the problem is they refuse to prosecute straw buyers...real straw buyers....

 

[SavannahMann]

Here....

Another known nut, who the police failed to deal with...

Gunman in Texas shooting previously failed background check: Here's what we know

John Wester, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, confirmed the gunman had previously failed a federal background check for a firearm. Wester did not say when or why the check was failed.
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Gutierrez said the man would shoot rabbits and other animals at all hours of the night.

"We were afraid of him because you could tell what kind of person he was just by looking at him," Gutierrez told the news agency. "He was not nice, he was not friendly, he was not polite."

Last time I heard it was illegal for a prohibited person to even attempt a purchase.

Here in Nevada we arrest them and prosecute.

Why don't they do that everywhere?

It is actually a Federal Crime. 1117. Restrictions on the Possession of Firearms by Individuals Convicted of a Misdemeanor Crime of Domestic Violence

Even if they decide not to prosecute, the ATF is supposed to insure that there are no guns in the possession of a prohibited person. So again, if it is true, then the existing laws which would have prevented this mass shooting, were not followed or enforced.

 

[miketx]

Here....

Another known nut, who the police failed to deal with...

Gunman in Texas shooting previously failed background check: Here's what we know

John Wester, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, confirmed the gunman had previously failed a federal background check for a firearm. Wester did not say when or why the check was failed.
----

Gutierrez said the man would shoot rabbits and other animals at all hours of the night.

"We were afraid of him because you could tell what kind of person he was just by looking at him," Gutierrez told the news agency. "He was not nice, he was not friendly, he was not polite."

Last time I heard it was illegal for a prohibited person to even attempt a purchase.

Here in Nevada we arrest them and prosecute.

Why don't they do that everywhere?

It is actually a Federal Crime. 1117. Restrictions on the Possession of Firearms by Individuals Convicted of a Misdemeanor Crime of Domestic Violence

Even if they decide not to prosecute, the ATF is supposed to insure that there are no guns in the possession of a prohibited person. So again, if it is true, then the existing laws which would have prevented this mass shooting, were not followed or enforced.

Yet somehow more laws will fix this?

 

[2aguy]

Here....

Another known nut, who the police failed to deal with...

Gunman in Texas shooting previously failed background check: Here's what we know

John Wester, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, confirmed the gunman had previously failed a federal background check for a firearm. Wester did not say when or why the check was failed.
----

Gutierrez said the man would shoot rabbits and other animals at all hours of the night.

"We were afraid of him because you could tell what kind of person he was just by looking at him," Gutierrez told the news agency. "He was not nice, he was not friendly, he was not polite."

Last time I heard it was illegal for a prohibited person to even attempt a purchase.

Here in Nevada we arrest them and prosecute.

Why don't they do that everywhere?

It is actually a Federal Crime. 1117. Restrictions on the Possession of Firearms by Individuals Convicted of a Misdemeanor Crime of Domestic Violence

Even if they decide not to prosecute, the ATF is supposed to insure that there are no guns in the possession of a prohibited person. So again, if it is true, then the existing laws which would have prevented this mass shooting, were not followed or enforced.

Yet somehow more laws will fix this?

See, it is amazing to me that we haven't gotten around to making murder illegal....cause, according to anti-gunners, if you pass a law, the crime stops.....so obviously, we have murder, so we must not have any laws against it....

 

[SavannahMann]

Here....

Another known nut, who the police failed to deal with...

Gunman in Texas shooting previously failed background check: Here's what we know

John Wester, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, confirmed the gunman had previously failed a federal background check for a firearm. Wester did not say when or why the check was failed.
----

Gutierrez said the man would shoot rabbits and other animals at all hours of the night.

"We were afraid of him because you could tell what kind of person he was just by looking at him," Gutierrez told the news agency. "He was not nice, he was not friendly, he was not polite."

Last time I heard it was illegal for a prohibited person to even attempt a purchase.

Here in Nevada we arrest them and prosecute.

Why don't they do that everywhere?

It is actually a Federal Crime. 1117. Restrictions on the Possession of Firearms by Individuals Convicted of a Misdemeanor Crime of Domestic Violence

Even if they decide not to prosecute, the ATF is supposed to insure that there are no guns in the possession of a prohibited person. So again, if it is true, then the existing laws which would have prevented this mass shooting, were not followed or enforced.

Yet somehow more laws will fix this?

When did I call for more laws on guns? I have called for and will continue to do so, for more restrictions on police to reduce misconduct.

 

[miketx]

Here....

Another known nut, who the police failed to deal with...

Gunman in Texas shooting previously failed background check: Here's what we know

John Wester, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, confirmed the gunman had previously failed a federal background check for a firearm. Wester did not say when or why the check was failed.
----

Gutierrez said the man would shoot rabbits and other animals at all hours of the night.

"We were afraid of him because you could tell what kind of person he was just by looking at him," Gutierrez told the news agency. "He was not nice, he was not friendly, he was not polite."

Last time I heard it was illegal for a prohibited person to even attempt a purchase.

Here in Nevada we arrest them and prosecute.

Why don't they do that everywhere?

It is actually a Federal Crime. 1117. Restrictions on the Possession of Firearms by Individuals Convicted of a Misdemeanor Crime of Domestic Violence

Even if they decide not to prosecute, the ATF is supposed to insure that there are no guns in the possession of a prohibited person. So again, if it is true, then the existing laws which would have prevented this mass shooting, were not followed or enforced.

Yet somehow more laws will fix this?

When did I call for more laws on guns? I have called for and will continue to do so, for more restrictions on police to reduce misconduct.

I never posted that YOU said anything.

 

[whitehall]

Indications are that the deranged shooter called 911 and the FBI with some sort of rambling message and nobody did anything. The media apparently isn't curious enough to find out exactly what he said to the FBI.