Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide...

[Quantum Windbag]

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

this part of the article is a BIG BIG BIG LIE!

IF the customers could shop locally then go home and order the stuff ...the "stuff" would be shipped and delivered to their home address which would be within the State that they live so the Sales tax would be charged to them.

that part of the article is pure BULL CRAP....NO ONE can go home and order from a local store's online store, and not be charged state sales taxes....NO ONE.

If the store, has a store within your state, whether an online store or a brick and mortar store, sales tax is charged for instate purchases.

OK I withdraw my last question. The answer is you are just fucking stupid. They dont order from an online service in their state. They order from one out of state so they can screw the state on the sales tax. That's the whole point. Duh.

They order from whoever has the product they want.

 

[The Rabbi]

Here's the deal...Slapping taxes to on line purchases will not increase revenue. People will simply not buy as much.
This is merely a political move to placate the Brick and Mortar retail sales lobby.
It's a money grab. That's all.
The way I see it is most people shop regularly throughout the year are impulse buyers.
As with any retailer, Amazon et al do most of their business from October through the week before Christmas. If people know they have to pay taxes on purchases, they will go to the retailer. On line sales companies will get killed. And THAT is the goal here.
Brick and Mortar retailers don't want the competition.
Anyone who favors this money grab is buying into the scam.

Online sales companies have advantages over brick and mortar in selection and pricing. B&M have advantages in service and time. It is up to the customer to decide which is more valuable for that particular purchase.
But it is not up to the customer to decide he can cheat the state out of sales tax that he legimiately owes by not buying from the local store. That gives an unfair advantage to the online retailer.

No it does not.

The online retailer does not enjoy a price advantage of up to 9+% because the consumer knows the state cannot collect the sales tax that is due on the purchase? Really? In your world does the amount the consumer pays not matter to buying decisions?

 

[The Rabbi]

this part of the article is a BIG BIG BIG LIE!

IF the customers could shop locally then go home and order the stuff ...the "stuff" would be shipped and delivered to their home address which would be within the State that they live so the Sales tax would be charged to them.

that part of the article is pure BULL CRAP....NO ONE can go home and order from a local store's online store, and not be charged state sales taxes....NO ONE.

If the store, has a store within your state, whether an online store or a brick and mortar store, sales tax is charged for instate purchases.

OK I withdraw my last question. The answer is you are just fucking stupid. They dont order from an online service in their state. They order from one out of state so they can screw the state on the sales tax. That's the whole point. Duh.

They order from whoever has the product they want.

Let's assume multiple sellers have identical merchandise. They can order from an in state dealer who must collect tax or an out of state dealer who does not collect tax. Which one will they order from, if all else is equal?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide

Here's the deal...Slapping taxes to on line purchases will not increase revenue. People will simply not buy as much.
This is merely a political move to placate the Brick and Mortar retail sales lobby.
It's a money grab. That's all.
The way I see it is most people shop regularly throughout the year are impulse buyers.
As with any retailer, Amazon et al do most of their business from October through the week before Christmas. If people know they have to pay taxes on purchases, they will go to the retailer. On line sales companies will get killed. And THAT is the goal here.
Brick and Mortar retailers don't want the competition.
Anyone who favors this money grab is buying into the scam.

Online sales companies have advantages over brick and mortar in selection and pricing. B&M have advantages in service and time. It is up to the customer to decide which is more valuable for that particular purchase.
But it is not up to the customer to decide he can cheat the state out of sales tax that he legimiately owes by not buying from the local store. That gives an unfair advantage to the online retailer.

IMO is it the states cheating the consumer.
I despise sales taxes. It's double dipping. I have already paid taxes on that money when I earned it.....We allow government to boot us in the ass and we are too chicken shit to even say OWWW....

 

[thereisnospoon]

OK I withdraw my last question. The answer is you are just fucking stupid. They dont order from an online service in their state. They order from one out of state so they can screw the state on the sales tax. That's the whole point. Duh.

They order from whoever has the product they want.

Let's assume multiple sellers have identical merchandise. They can order from an in state dealer who must collect tax or an out of state dealer who does not collect tax. Which one will they order from, if all else is equal?

Ok...So what about states that do not collect sales tax at all?

 

[The Rabbi]

They order from whoever has the product they want.

Let's assume multiple sellers have identical merchandise. They can order from an in state dealer who must collect tax or an out of state dealer who does not collect tax. Which one will they order from, if all else is equal?

Ok...So what about states that do not collect sales tax at all?

Which state does not have a sales tax?

 

[The Rabbi]

Here's the deal...Slapping taxes to on line purchases will not increase revenue. People will simply not buy as much.
This is merely a political move to placate the Brick and Mortar retail sales lobby.
It's a money grab. That's all.
The way I see it is most people shop regularly throughout the year are impulse buyers.
As with any retailer, Amazon et al do most of their business from October through the week before Christmas. If people know they have to pay taxes on purchases, they will go to the retailer. On line sales companies will get killed. And THAT is the goal here.
Brick and Mortar retailers don't want the competition.
Anyone who favors this money grab is buying into the scam.

Online sales companies have advantages over brick and mortar in selection and pricing. B&M have advantages in service and time. It is up to the customer to decide which is more valuable for that particular purchase.
But it is not up to the customer to decide he can cheat the state out of sales tax that he legimiately owes by not buying from the local store. That gives an unfair advantage to the online retailer.

IMO is it the states cheating the consumer.
I despise sales taxes. It's double dipping. I have already paid taxes on that money when I earned it.....We allow government to boot us in the ass and we are too chicken shit to even say OWWW....

No one likes taxes. That isn't the point. The point is that most states have "use" taxes specifically to level the playing field between instate and out of state retailers. Whether you agree with the law or not, it is the law. When the consumer buys online and doesnt pay the tax he is violating the law.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Online sales companies have advantages over brick and mortar in selection and pricing. B&M have advantages in service and time. It is up to the customer to decide which is more valuable for that particular purchase.
But it is not up to the customer to decide he can cheat the state out of sales tax that he legimiately owes by not buying from the local store. That gives an unfair advantage to the online retailer.

No it does not.

The online retailer does not enjoy a price advantage of up to 9+% because the consumer knows the state cannot collect the sales tax that is due on the purchase? Really? In your world does the amount the consumer pays not matter to buying decisions?

Of course they do, but that is not an unfair advantage for the online retailer.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

OK I withdraw my last question. The answer is you are just fucking stupid. They dont order from an online service in their state. They order from one out of state so they can screw the state on the sales tax. That's the whole point. Duh.

They order from whoever has the product they want.

Let's assume multiple sellers have identical merchandise. They can order from an in state dealer who must collect tax or an out of state dealer who does not collect tax. Which one will they order from, if all else is equal?

All things being equal, they order from the first one they find.

 

[Trajan]

Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

becasue the transaction doesn't involve the state?

If I buy a book from amazon who has a depot in Nevada from which they post me the book, or I buy a digital book, why should I pay cali sales tax?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Let's assume multiple sellers have identical merchandise. They can order from an in state dealer who must collect tax or an out of state dealer who does not collect tax. Which one will they order from, if all else is equal?

Ok...So what about states that do not collect sales tax at all?

Which state does not have a sales tax?

Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire and Oregon.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Good to see you agree that this law is not needed.

Good to see you agree that the Affordable Care Act is a good law.

You just said that you don't cheat on taxes. That means you, like all honest people, pay all their taxes, including the tax on the MP3s you buy from iTunes.

I don't buy Mp3's from ITunes.

If I did I would include it with my total out of state purchases for use in Louisiana on my tax form.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Just LEAVE THE FUCKING INTERNET ALONE, PERIOD!

It works, it's fine, and the LAST thing it needs is GOVERNMENT to get THEIR FILTHY, GREEDY FINGERS on it.

Government should keep their hands off our interstates and medicare,too!

Oh stop it....with every one of these tax discussions one of you flaming libs brings up roads...
Cut the shit. Infrastructure is an essential form of both federal and state government.

 

[KissMy]

Why should small brick and mortar stores suffer because people can screw the government out of tax revenue they are entitled to?

So it is good that Warren Buffet has not paid taxes in 8 years & bad for the average Joe to skate on sales tax?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Yeah...When they put up the inspection gates over the Blatnik bridge, you come get me.

So you admit you're a law breaking tax cheat.

Hypocrite....

 

[pete]

Did you read the story and discover that it's the BIG RETAILERS that are in favor of this?

Sheeeeesh!

So what? They are right. People are engaged in massive tax cheating. That needs to stop.

Welfare food stamps housing and the list goes on !!!

 

[thereisnospoon]

What tax refunds are you talking about? You don't have a fucking clue.

I dont know how the law is structured. It is likely the money will be apportioned back to the states. In which case it makes perfect sense.

So, if the taxes collected on my non-taxable item are apportioned back to my state, how do I go about getting my money back?...A tax refund, maybe?

Speaking of having no fucking clue...

How do you know there are taxes collected on non taxable items? Clueless.

If a person residing in New Jersey which does not tax purchases of clothing, shoes and other necessities, shops on line and is taxed on the purchase by the retailer, he is asking how does that NJ resident go about getting back the taxes paid on the purchase.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Good to see you agree that the Affordable Care Act is a good law.

You just said that you don't cheat on taxes. That means you, like all honest people, pay all their taxes, including the tax on the MP3s you buy from iTunes.

I don't buy Mp3's from ITunes.

If I did I would include it with my total out of state purchases for use in Louisiana on my tax form.

Oh yes...We believe you....

 

[Political Junky]

Doesn't this fall in line with a consumption tax that many one the right want?

Yep.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why should small brick and mortar stores suffer because people can screw the government out of tax revenue they are entitled to?

So it is good that Warren Buffet has not paid taxes in 8 years & bad for the average Joe to skate on sales tax?

I'm sorry, what does one have to do with another? And I'm pretty sure Warren Buffet has paid taxes. Regardless, it is irrelevent. People are obligated to pay the tax they actually owe.